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silly question about testing
I keep seeing people posting about taking more than one test in a day- mitf and freestyle, pre-bronze and bronze (wow).
Is it possible to take standard track and adult track tests in the same day? I'm not ready to test yet, but it seems like pre-preliminary and pre-bronze are so similiar it would make sense to try them both. Is that "allowed"?
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Yes, that would be fine. But since there are now crossover points from standard to adult w/ regards to qualifying for taking the FS tests, frankly I don't see the point in taking both standard and adult tests. Take the standard, you'll learn more, and then take the adult FS tests as you hit the crossover points.
It's just my opinion. I don't see any advantage to taking both. Just more $$$$! |
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But the passing standards are higher on the standard track tests, so be prepared for a higher risk of getting a "retry." That's something to bear in mind if you are taking a MIF test as a prerequisite for an adult FS test where you need to pass by a certain date to qualify for Sectionals.
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I could think of some reasons to do both tracks: it will give you more testing experience, which will help conquer your testing (and probably also competition) nerves; it will expose you to some moves that you would miss if you just did adult track (Prelim spirals and alt 3's, Juv back power 3's); and if you plan on testing the higher level standard track moves tests, testing standard track at the lower levels might make that a smoother transition for you. If taking FS tests (and competing) is important to you, definitely test adult track (at least), b/c you will qualify for FS tests sooner than if you just test standard track.
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I agree that you will be a better skater if you take the standard track tests; I would just advise giving yourself more time to pass them before any deadline you might have.
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my 2 cents: I've heard that the judges resent the adults taking the standard tests at the low levels as it overlaps with the adult tests and part of the reason that the adult tests were created is that its hard for a judge to grade appropriate lobe size, power, extension, flow, control etc. comparing a 6 year old and a 60 year old. So we were encouraged to take the adult MITF and FS tests and when you are done with GOLD just go right ahead and graduate into intemediate.
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You can go through Adult Gold & then switch over to intermediate; the trouble is that you've missed some (IMO) important elements along the way which the adult track never requires. |
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I judge, I skate ISI, I skate adult track in USFSA. I am not adding standard track to my to-do list.
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Oh gosh, this argument again so soon?
Some folks like adult track, others think the standard track is the way to go, and some of us wish to do both... Can we not just be happy to have the option? In the spirit of sticking to the original topic of the thread...it seems to make sense enough to test pre-bronze and pre-prelim the same day assuming you're prepared, but I do have a question...I've heard of folks taking MITF and FS the same day, but as passing the MITF is required to take the FS test, do you still have to pay for the FS test in the event that you fail the MITF?
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Resentment for taking standard track on the part of the judges? No way! Never heard of that. Held to the same standard as the kids? Heck, yeah!
You will need to take more time on the same move to pass the same move on the standard track test (eg : perimeter power stroking is on the Bronze MIF test @ 2.5 and on the PreJuv @ 2.7) because the passing standard is higher. For me, it makes no difference, I've already "crossed over" and passed the Intermediate MIF test without having taken any of the other MIF tests (due to a quirk of lucky fate) and am faithfully working on my Novice MIF with the expectation to pass sometime next summer when I can devote more time to it after Nationals (It gets about 15 minutes per hour session and 10-20 minutes of lesson time out of 60). I find working on moves has its benefits to FS. Did the Intermediates take me longer for not having done MIF previously? Probably. Did I learn a lot from working on them? Definitely. Are there benefits from doing all the patterns? Absolutely. BUT! It depends on what your goals as a skater are, though, and if it's to become competition ready as an adult in FS, you will need to make some compromises. If you don't want to spend the money/time to pay for testing both tracks such as having your coach teach you the standard track moves not on the adult tests and working on those things as well. Take a MIF class during the summer when there's more ice readily available and you get the opportunity to explore moves not in your test structure. Have some of the more difficult moves added to your footwork/transitions. Good luck! Generate your long term goals and you'll know the right way to go about this FOR YOU!! |
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And the skating director at Yerba Buena in San Francisco (Jazzpants' home rink) took all her Moves tests in two months. She was our adult synchro coach at the time.. and we required all our skaters to test moves. This was a long time ago-- before USFS even thought of requiring synchro skaters to take moves tests. So she went out and took the Pre-Pre and Preliminary and Pre-Juvenile tests on the same test session as the adult synchro skaters. We were soooo proud of her... but we made sure she was the last skater for each test.. none of us wanted to have our spirals compared to hers!!! But most of our local coaches have their kids and many of their adults one Moves level ahead of the FS test anyway.. for example, the coaches don't let the kids take the Juvenile FS until they've passed Intermediate Moves. |
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Here's a question: I know that, if you have to "retest" a level, you have to wait 28 days or the test won't be recognized. Can you take a test in a different discipline before then? For example, a skater who already passed Pre-bronze MITF gets a retest for Pre-Bronze FS. S/he can't retest for 28 days. The following week, there's a test session - can s/he take the Bronze MITF test even though 28 days hasn't passed?
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For example, one could have tested through Silver MIF, but if you go to test Bronze FS and have a bad day and fail Bronze FS, you only have to wait until the 28th day to re-test Bronze FS. In the meantime, if Gold MIF were ready for testing, or the Canasta Tango, or the European Waltz, one could test those (provided the requirements for the other test had been previously met).
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Most of the judges I know cheer adults who take on the challenge of the standard tests, rather than resent them.
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This isn't really responding to the original question, but I tested skills, freeskate (both parts) and one dance in the same test session and was on the ice for almost an hour. It was too much. Although they were "easy" to pass, the stress of being out there for so long just took the energy out of me. I've split up my next freeskate test, elements on one test day, the program on another and am now starting to wish I could split up the three parts of the skills too but they will have a test day of their own
I test in the only Canadian system there is, and have only once run into a judge that didn't like adults but I passed anyway. Usually they tell me how much they admire adults who are skating and continuing to test. Because we're nuts! |
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