ITA. I have very little turnout and can do decent tango stops. I do think it has to do with weight transfer. In a spread eagle, your weight is on both feet equally, which requires turnout. Not so in the T-stop and tango stop. Most of the weight is born by the skating foot, and just a tad applied with the stopping foot.

Again, ITA. On the closed hip helping the in-air position, our skating director, who has closed hips, said something once that made me suddenly realized that skaters with a big wrap in their jumps must have very open hips. I asked if that was so, and she said it is. Very open hips make a tight (legs) in-air position more difficult and can lead to a wrap.

The T-stop is the only one I can do on freshly sharpened blades, and the tango stop is also just barely possible. Both use the outside edge for stopping.

I taught myself the tango stop by doing it slowly as I approached the wall. I used the slide the foot from (stopping) heel to (skating) instep forward in front of skating foot method.

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I have a really good show stop (I can do it at any speed, no problem), and terrible turn-out. I mean terrible. So I don't think they're related.

That being said, show stops are kind of tricky at first. You have to be really careful to stop on the outside of your edge and not to catch the inside edge. If you do, splat doesn't even begin to describe the fall.

Eventually you can do the stop where you only have the back leg on the ice for a moment. The stop turns into a one-foot slide stop type thing (real descriptive, I know).

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Adding my voice to those who say that good turnout is not a pre-requisite to show stops.

I taught myself these years ago because I struggled so much with regular t-stops. I was forever catching my blade wrong and tripping. I found I had more control and could do them more gradually than regular ones. Not only that, if I got it wrong and the front blade caught, the momentum of the following toe-pick pushed it forward again.

I never tried with my left foot in front until the other day, because my left hip has 45 degree turn out only, so I didn't think I could do them. But to my surprise, I could. With a bit of practise, I think they'd be as good as my other foot in front.

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Oh, he's okay..... there are some people who wouldn't be, dressed like that, but he's not one of them!

I can't do a T-stop properly, never mind a show stop. I suppose I do a sort-of one-footed snowplough on a good day, but mostly two footed with my bum in the air. Sigh.

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