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Graf vs Jacksons
I urgently need to order new boots (I mainly skate synchro at senior level) and have had Jackson Synchro boots for last 6 years I think.
The latest pair lasted me about a year before breaking down too much and so I've skated another year or so and struggled without much support. Now looking at these 4 options: Jackson Synchro Jackson Dance Graf Edmonton Graf Dance Does anyone have any experience with any of these or comparative reviews? And does anyone perhaps know the different weights of the boots? Many thanks |
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I'm just switching to Graf Edmonton. I'm having an easier time breaking them in than the Jackson synchro boots but have noticed they've got a lower heel which has affected my spins. I'm a bit cautious when breaking boots in, so am surprised how easy I'm finding the Edmontons. But I'd heard that about Graf boots, but I'm not sure on the toughness once they're broken in. I can't comment on the Jackson Dance as I didn't get to try them (bought the synchro boots as they had the low backs I was looking for in dance boots, and the skate shop would do them cheaper) and everything has to be ordered in. I should be able to compare the weights of the Jackson Synchro and the Graf Edmonton's when I get home, but I'm thinking the Edmontons are lighter than my old Jackson Elite+. My gut feel, is that it you want a quick break in time Graf dance would be fine for synchro, but you'll probably be wanting to replace them quickly, they're not that tough. An extra one to put on your list is the Jackson Coaches boots. My sister's swapped into that and is liking it. They're low cut at the back and apparently about as tough as the Elite / Synchro boot. Her favourite bit is the lining for the toes for standing around cold rinks at practice. |
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I had no problem breaking in Graf Edmontons specials even without doing jumps at the time, and they're a very supportive skate. I like them quite a lot. They're not heavy, Risports of similar hardness are much heavier. Can't comment on Jacksons, never skated in them - tried some Classiques on at the shop though, the foot shape seems similar to Graf (and very different from Risport). I also found that my spins and edges improved further in the Grafs, but that may've just been because my old Risports were very broken down, or because the Risports were not a good fit. The Grafs make it quite easy to get a good knee bend and do things like sit spins, hydroblades, etc. Don't have anything negative to say about the boots with the exception that they seem to lose their white color over time, turning a dirty yellowish kind of color everywhere where they were exposed to light (and retain the white color where they weren't). Also, the price REALLY stings on these.
Last edited by Sessy; 08-05-2010 at 10:29 AM. |
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thanks for you prompt replies.
fsk8r: how different is the normal back of the graf edmonton compared to the low back of the jackson synchro? i'm so used to the low back that i'm worried a different height will cause pain. the coaches boot was also an option, but one of our coaches here has them and says there's not enough support for synchro, although would be nice whilst i coach to keep my feet warm (not a problem when i'm skating synchro - then maybe be too hot) Sessy - i'm a bit concerned that you say the Graf's become yellowish - have heard that happening to risports - maybe it's just how they are stored....mine stay in my open bag most of the time because i'm back and forward to the rink so often - no time to take them out. |
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In terms of the boot around the ankle, the Grafs are slightly lower at the front than the Jacksons, but there's a clear difference in back height. Jacksons are slightly lower. I don't notice it that much. The Grafs do have some soft padding to help point, but you'll not get as much toe-point as you do in the Jacksons as there's more leather than elasticated back. Incidentally the Jackson's have a higher heel than the Grafs so I'm not sure how that would affect the appearance of toe-point. I thought all white boots tend to yellow with age? It's how you spot the new boots at the rink... Hope that helps. Any more questions and I'll line the boots up again. |
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Can't comment on toe pointing - pointing's one of the things I need to work a *lot* on. It was easier to point in the Grafs than in the Risports for me, come to think of it, but then the Risports are notoriously tall boots. Last edited by Sessy; 08-05-2010 at 05:04 PM. |
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That, or the scratches, marks, chips and dings! (The black marks on my boots = he kicked me. The white marks on his boots = he was in the wrong place. Isn't that how it goes?)
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