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For the Guys: Odd Looks?
Maybe it's just because of the area I'm in, but I get the oddest looks from some people this week when I've gone to skate (or at least attempt to get my ice legs). I go by myself and skate by myself unlike most of the other adults (men especially) who are there in groups or as part of a couple. It's really bad when I'm there and it's primarily the little skater girls. I take quite a few breaks just to refocus on what I'm doing and to watch the kids who know a *lot* more about what they're doing than I do (I especially watch and pay attention if there is a private lesson going on, hoping to pick up a thing or two), but then I notice that it seems like all the parents are watching *me*. I think they think I'm some creepy guy stalking the little girls. Geez. I just want to learn to skate!
I happier news, I've managed to work my way up into double laps around the rink and I feel like my skating and stability is getting more solid. I only fell once tonight and that's because I lost my focus when I had my attention drawn by a younger skater, in a lesson, who was clearly lining up for a jump, the flight plan of which would've been directly in my path. Considering I don't know how to stop, yet I was wanting to make sure that I wasn't heading (or she wouldn't be heading) right for her. Anyway, I snagged that blessed toe pick and went down *hard* on my right knee (it was so sudden, there was no way to work myself around for a different landing). It's a bit sore and I'm sure there'll be a nasty bruise in the morning, but other than that it's fine. Hey, if I can fall off a barstool and slam my knee into a solid concrete floor with nary a problem, slamming my knee on ice should be a breeze. (for the record, I was sober at the time --- my foot had fallen to sleep and I didn't know it. went to swing around and step down and there was nothing there). |
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I wouldn't worry about it. Once you become a regular for a while, everybody will kind of know who you are, and then you'll just be part of the usual crowd there. It's normal.
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I betcha they don't look at you thinking you're a creep stalking little girls... I think they're just amused (no offense) and maybe a little bit concerned. Keep on going, have fun and don't worry about what other people think... unless ofcourse you are a stalker then beware!!! Just kidding, just kidding!!!
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Whilst being a lone male skater amongst lots of little girls doesn't make you a freak, keep in mind that most paedophiles put themselves in positions where they have access to young children on a one-on-one basis, hence why alot of people are apprehensive about this guy at the rink. (not only that but in general he freaks me out - there is something weird about him)..... Don't take it personally it's probably nothing to do with you per'se but more (from a parents perspective) parents just watching what their kids are doing in terms of interaction with you... Then again, they could just be having a chuckle, or at the same time thinking of how gutsy you are getting out there with all the little kids! |
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They're probably just watching you because they're afraid of accidents! As people get used to you coming on a regular basis, and as you gain control, you'll fit in better. If I were sharing the ice with you, I'd be a little nervous and would be keeping an eye on you because I wouldn't always be sure of where you were going so that we wouldn't collide. On freestyles, we're pretty good at developing an awareness of where other skaters are going, but beginners don't always do things in a predictable way. Keep skating - it'll get better!
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Me and my wife are so inexperienced, and my wifes feet so bad in her skates (until her new ones come in) that she actually skated around with a walker the other day. Talk about getting looks. There are only a few skaters on the ice during adult skate hours lately, and most are nice even though I am sure we are annoying, but some people just seem snotty, like they own the ice. I know we need lessons, but there is a big sign with rules on the wall, and nothing that says you have to be an olympic skater. We stay close to the wall, and even though the rules state that stationary skaters stay toward the middle of the ice, a few just do their little routines right against the wall. We are the newbies, but we are following the rules, experienced skaters shouldnt ignore them. We took my wifes mom awhile ago and she was alarmed at the rudeness of people compared to when she frequented the ice rinks.
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Don't stop!
Don't worry about people watching you. Just focus on YOUR skating. I think as adult skaters, we ALL get "looks" from time to time, regardless of our level.
Don't sweat the parents with their little girls, or being the only guy on the rink. If you haven't said or done anything wrong...then they really can't complain. No one has any right to tell you when and where you can and can't exercise, especially if you have paid for the session! It can be hard to "get over", but try not to feel self-concious or "weird" about your skating. You'll learn faster that way! Good Luck! |
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I think you're getting a lot of good advice here, on both sides of the spectrum. Yes, parents are protective of their kids, and you have to respect that. But you have the right to be out there, just like the kids.
There are a couple of things I would suggest that might help you make the right impression: 1. Don't spy on other people's lessons. I pay my coach $90 an hour and I don't like to share with freeloaders. Besides, if you stare, that does look creepy. If you can't afford private lessons, then get group instruction. If you can't afford that, there are a lot of books that are helpful for beginners. 2. You mentioned that you can't stop yet, so it's difficult for you to dodge other skaters. That's OK, but during freestyle sessions, it's your responsibility to yield to skaters in lessons and in programs. You wouldn't drive a car without brakes on the freeway and expect everybody else to move ... it's no different on the ice. Consider public sessions, or uncrowded freestyles, until you master your basic skills a little better. 3. A lot of skaters who feel like they're not fully accepted respond by charging ahead full speed and blowing off their detractors. This ensures that you have practice time and space, but also ensures that you won't make a lot of friends along the way. So resist the urge to be defiant towards people who just don't understand you ... yet. Some of the (adult) guys I skate with are local heroes at our rink. Nothing shady, nothing creepy, they've just been good role models for the kids and have gotten to know the parents over time. So be patient and keep working at it, and I'm sure you'll hit a good rhythm!
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When my son was beginning in Learn-To-Play hockey, and I sat in the lobby with all the other parents, I overheard tons of comments from the other parents "oh, look at that big kid-he shouldn't be allowed out there with the little kids" etc.
My son is big for his age, was learning to skate, but NOT an aggressive skater, ever. Once the other parents learned this (over the course of the session) the comments and stares stopped. When a new kid signed up and the comments from that parent started (my kid was the biggest one in that group) the other parents piped up and said it would be ok. Once you are known and become a familiar face at the rink it will settle down. I am the "rink Mom" and the kids can come up to me for help if they need it (tying skates, etc).
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I get "those" looks occasionally when I skate. Especially since I'm always trying to help beginners get their skating legs under them and since most of those beginners are kids.
After I got to know several of the skaters, coaches, and rink guards at the rink, I found I had others to talk with while skating. If I think someone is worried about my intentions, I make it a point to talk with those I know just to show that I'm okay and not "stalking" them or their kids. Happened to me last Wednesday. A skating dad was on the ice with his son and daughter. The daughter was struggling, so I stopped next to her and her dad to offer basic advise on her arm position and bent knees. He was at first a little apprehensive with my being there. I explained to dad the logic behind having her do it my way while she learned. I also made a point to talk to some others I knew and dad seemed okay with me by the sessions end. Don't worry about the looks. Just be friendly and enjoy your skating. People will warm up to you.
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Sk8guy71, skating isn't a private hobby. You just have to do it in public. The "looks" don't stop, and the comments get worse. And that's not just for adult beginners, it applies to everybody. But what the hell - who wants to get skatermum-bum from sitting on the benches freezing for hours?!!! So hold your head up, smile, and remember that you are here to skate, and enjoying your skating.
Do be careful with the kids and young girls though - you can say good morning once they recognise you, but it's best to avoid physical contact, even helping them up. You don't want to get cast as a "groper". Once they know you, they may well stop for a chat. And if you want to observe someone teaching, it's probably best to do it from the benches. Enjoy your skating! Last edited by dooobedooo; 03-10-2006 at 11:55 AM. |
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Oh, it doesn't really bother me, it's just --- odd, I guess is the actual way to put it. I do keep to myself and simply just work on my laps around the rink, attempting to get more assured and more steady on my feet. I always try to be mindful of where other skaters are positioned and if I come upon an area that looks to be rush hour or high traffic, I step off the ice until a clearer path is available. In regards to observing lessons, that's only done during an "off ice" period for me where I do my self evaluations of how I've done up to that point or when I've stepped off the ice to avoid a cluster of skaters and it's more about watching someone who's clearly got much better form and taking note of how they're doing it (body placement in regards to an edge or turn, a specific stroking move) while also attempting to identify the particular move or edge they're performing. I also try to watch a lot of skating videos, paying especially close attention to footwork and body placement. I'm also watching to get a good idea of which private instructor might be a good fit for me when I get to the point where I feel I'm ready for my own private lessons. It's not like I'm right up on a lesson. I'm a good deal of distance away (often completely on the other side of the rink). I'm not worried about odd looks, I just go and practice and do my thing. It was just kinda weird and unexpected and I was wondering if anyone else had experienced it.
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I'm not a guy but get stared at too...
As I said Im not a guy.
But maybe this will help you. I have been skating for 5 years now, and get the feeling that many think I dont belong there. I'm Muslim and wear a scarf, and pants and a shirt when I skate, so no little skating dresses. But suprisingly enough, after I get off the ice, many parents who have seen us time and time again, will tell my sister and I how well we're doing!! I wouldnt worry about the stares, if you enjoy it than just go out there and have fun!!! I dont know how much that helped, I guess im saying you're not the only one that gets "odd looks"! |
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And, of course, with kids, one of the big attractions of a coach is that "Jimmy takes from him/her", so friends' recommendations are a great idea too.
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BTW, I am a Master Mason and during our ceremonies we have an armed guard (just for tradition sake). Way back when, spys that would position themselves on the roof would be stabbed by the guards and would fall from the eaves. Hence, 'eavesdropping'!! Last edited by Alicia; 03-10-2006 at 04:23 PM. |
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oh yeah...... I forgot to mention. You've got every right to be there at the public session as everybody else. If you do your own thing for the fun and enjoyment of it, then that's absolutely fine. And if you're shakey right now on the skates.... I wouldn't worry about it either, because you're only going to improve. Usually most people are shakey when they begin skating anyway.
I agree with some other member here. The people are probably just keeping an eye on you to see if you're doing ok with your skating. It's important not to get a phobia thing about it. Just skate. When you get good at it, and you skate there over a long period, you'll become a regular there, and the regulars will also treat you to be a regular. I must say though, that if you're not stroking correctly, or doing apparently the wrong kind of actions in your skating....then that could attract looks. As I've seen for myself some people have unusual type of body movements while stroking....since they haven't been taught how to stroke, and so they just do what they think is right....but looks strange and awkward to everybody. If your behaviour is very normal ... as in you're just doing your own thing, and not doing any really strange and odd movements, and not staring at others, then there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Last edited by EastonSkater; 03-11-2006 at 01:51 AM. |
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As you would expect to be treated within your own profession. As I said, I don't suppose you would particularly like it if someone were to eavesdrop on your skater's lesson, and you can't have one rule for you and another for everybody else! And as a potential skating coach wouldn't know the kind of learner your skater is, how would they be "putting on an act" if you booked two or three trial lessons, on the understanding that if they didn't "gel", there would be no hard feelings? Quote:
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please try not to worry about odd looks. You know there are many girls looking for paired skating and dance partners. i am planning to start dance sometime soon, so I'm always checking out if any of the guys have skills. Maybe the looks you're getting are not that odd. Try to make friends and talk to people you know so people sort of get to know you as a regular.
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Be kind and friendly to the skating parents and adult skaters. Take your time getting to know the kids. As an adult skater, I'm being honest here, I would watch you carefully too if I precieved you to be overly watchful and friendly to the kids. It is sorta a no, no to watch someones lesson. If you need help, we all do, get a coach or take a group lesson. Even ask another adult skater for a point or two if necessary. Being a male skater does have some harder quirks, good for you for trying.
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We have some skatedads here as well as skatemoms, everyone kinda helps out !! |
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Good luck and just keep at it, self consciousness is all part of the package when you first start as an adult, male or female. |
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