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Old 05-06-2008, 06:17 AM
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Quad axel

So this one is obviously edited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7J7...eature=related

But what about these. They are both falls, but the vids look legit. Who is this guy working on 4axels? Does anyone know if the elite men are doing this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG_uc...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scSnB...eature=related

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Old 05-06-2008, 07:04 AM
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Well one of them appears to be "John".

I wonder if they are regional/sectional level competitors who want to be the first to have it ratified in competition? It seems like they aren't going to be national/elite level, because then the comment sections/titles would probably say their name and we'd recognize them. Skaters at the highest levels probably aren't working on the quad axel (I'd venture to say at all, but at least not seriously) because they have a serious concern that their "low level" quads need to be reliable, and they need to focus on high level footwork and spins too.

So, totally my guess, but these guys are probably "jumpers" who want to be a brief sentence in the history books.


But WOW!
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:20 AM
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Whoa! Look at the whiplash the "John" guy in the last link received when he fell! If that's what a quad axel entails, count me out! Ouch.

As far as I know, no elite men are attempting these in competition...yet.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:06 AM
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I have seen Michael Weiss attempt quad lutzes in person and come close, but haven't seen anyone else attempt them. I heard rumors that Plushenko was working on quad loop but never saw an attempt. Anyone ever try a quad flip?
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:48 AM
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I have seen Michael Weiss attempt quad lutzes in person and come close, but haven't seen anyone else attempt them. I heard rumors that Plushenko was working on quad loop but never saw an attempt. Anyone ever try a quad flip?
I've heard that Daisuke Takahashi has attemtped them but I haven't seen him try one myself.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:41 AM
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I have seen Michael Weiss attempt quad lutzes in person and come close, but haven't seen anyone else attempt them. I heard rumors that Plushenko was working on quad loop but never saw an attempt. Anyone ever try a quad flip?
Rumor has it Joubert's is even somewhat consistent, at least in practice. But I've never seen video's for proof of this.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:16 PM
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OMG! The one where the guy falls!! OUCH. BTW what is the purpose of the guy holding the "fishing line" (for lack of a better description) if he is not going to help ease the fall? I am being sarcastic.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:27 PM
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There's a clip on youtube of Pluschenko falling from quad lutz, but it looked closer than any I saw from Weiss when he was trying it in competition a few yars back.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:08 PM
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I saw Elvis Stojiko nail several clean quad lutzes in practice in 2003
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:16 PM
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Quad

"OK" Looks like the video of the guy from Singapore is good. Not a lot of hight but it sure looks like he made it easy , Who was that guy from the club in Singapore ??? I skated at that rink once years ago.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:11 PM
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The Singapore one is a video edit (look at his other videos, he's into all that video editing special effects stuff) He can only do a single axel (as opposed to quad...)
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:03 AM
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Shep Clark was working on quad loops before his back injury.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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The Singapore one is a video edit (look at his other videos, he's into all that video editing special effects stuff) He can only do a single axel (as opposed to quad...)
Oh yes, and he's a really funny & creative guy... I especially like his "carpet skater" video.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:19 PM
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Oh yes, and he's a really funny & creative guy... I especially like his "carpet skater" video.
Oh, that's AWESOME!
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:25 PM
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That is great!! Love the carpet skater and the Tokyo drift is also very good.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:32 PM
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The Singapore one is a video edit (look at his other videos, he's into all that video editing special effects stuff) He can only do a single axel (as opposed to quad...)
OK .. Ill give him great credit for a great single . nice position , strait and up right . but I think its a scum ball video to do something like that.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:45 PM
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What...?? It's very obviously edited, the arc of the jump is non-existent especially when you watch the others. He (Mark Leung) does actually have pretty good jumps.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:37 PM
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OK .. Ill give him great credit for a great single . nice position , strait and up right . but I think its a scum ball video to do something like that.
Since his site is full of videos that are computer edited, stop-motion animation, etc., I think it's pretty obvious that he is just doing this for fun and not actually trying to fool anyone into thinking it's real. Check out his other videos; they're fun!
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:38 PM
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What...?? It's very obviously edited, the arc of the jump is non-existent especially when you watch the others. He (Mark Leung) does actually have pretty good jumps.
Sorry Im not an editing expert or a skating expert .. How would I know..
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:03 PM
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Sorry Im not an editing expert or a skating expert .. How would I know..
Just keep watching. You'll get the hang of it.
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:00 PM
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Oh yes, and he's a really funny & creative guy... I especially like his "carpet skater" video.

That's actually pretty darn funny.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:36 PM
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There are a few people trying to make history with a quad axel.

To the first person to do it in competition.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:02 PM
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Sorry Im not an editing expert or a skating expert .. How would I know..
Because if you looked closely, he didn't do a really good job editing his shadow on the ice to match he "quad". I think even some of his non skating stuff is funny!
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