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New skater with new skates
Hi! I've been lurking around the forums, avidly reading, but this is my very first post. I started skating in January (group lessons), and have been really conscious of trying not to bore my friends to death with endless skating talk, so it's so great to have a community that understands the obsession!
I just got my very first skates the other day. They are so amazing after having only used horrible dull, plastic, ill-fitting rentals. Just a few questions... I see a lot of people talking about breaking in new skates. When would you consider your skates to be broken in? I assume there's no specific point at which you say, "Today my skates are broken in". Is it just when they don't have that "new" feeling anymore? Also, I've read the posts about skate care, and I understand about drying them, and only storing them in the soakers, but using the hard guards for walking around in, etc. Do you put the hard guards on straight away when you come off the ice? Obviously your blades will be wet (and covered with ice) at that point. Or do you put the soakers on, and walk on them to get to your towel? Are you blades protected enough with just the soakers on? |
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generally, put your hard blade guards on when putting them on (you should put them on with the whole blade on the ground - not just the base.. if that makes sense)... then you walk to the gate to the rink, take your hard blade guards off, store them somewhere along the rink edge (you'll find somewhere ), and when you get off, I generally swipe my blade clean before putting on the hard blade covers...
Then wander back to take boots off... THEN I take off the hard covers, and dry my blades... that is when the soft covers/soakers go on. I store my blades in the soakers, but I leave my hard blade covers out to dry them out. The reason you wear the hard ones are so youre blades dont get divets in them from hard surfaces.... if you leave them on, the water collects in the holder, and against the blade, they will get rusty... rusty blades arent good. does that help?
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Yes, thanks - so you put them on your wet blades... I kinda figured that must be it, since I really can't imagine a bunch of skaters standing at the edge of the ice trying to dry their blades before putting the guards on How do you dry out the hard guards, though? Is it enough to just let them air dry?
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Air-drying is fine. You'll always want to open up your bag when you get home so your skates air out a bit (trust me, they'll really start to stink if you don't) and your guards will dry out ok. After awhile guards start to get dirt on the inside, especially in the winter when people are tracking sand into the rink on their shoes. That can start to dull your blades, so when you notice that, just pop them in the dishwasher. Seriously.
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Hi,
As for breaking skates in, when I got mine about 2 months ago I was told in the shop that it will probably take about 10 skating sessions to break them in fully. They were right, it took a while of skating through pain but it was worth it, once broken in I could skate in my boots for hours without a problem. Hope this helps, Evelina
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When you're done skating, take off your skates, dry your blades (an old rag, hand towel, or a chamois cloth will do) and then put on the soakers. The hard guards can just air-dry. Once in a while, rinse them out or run them through the diswasher to get out any grit that's worked its way inside the grooves.
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They are now making soakers with a reinforced bottom strip that I think must be so you can walk around in them without cutting them to shreds. I don't like the idea anyway, as they are sure to get wet, and the whole point of soakers is to keep your blades dry.
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as soon as you get off the ice you put your hard guards on, i try to do it right as I get off to avoid having the blades coming in contact with anything other than ice or hard guards.
After you get your skates off, remove the hard guards and wipe down your boots and the blade. Then just put on the soft covers and you're good to go. You'll know your boots are broken in, when you can actually bend your knees and ankles and feel confortable skating for a long time. |
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Hard to put a finger on it - my skates were comfortable within a week or so, but they feel different every month that I skate - sometimes in better ways, sometimes worse. Skates are like shoes (really durable shoes, anyways - like hiking boots) - they will feel different as they break down over time. When they're fresh and new your feet won't be accustomed to them so they might be uncomfortable and this may put you off - just bear with it and all will get better.
Sooner or later you won't really notice your skates at all, and then they'll stop having the support you need to perform whatever you're working on, so then it's time for a new set!
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Having only used rentals before, my new skates are *incredibly* comfortable. So I suppose they're going to get even more comfortable... Can't wait!
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I was told to run boiling water through the hard guards to clean the out. Boy, was that a mistake. I couldn't figure out why my little one couldn't get her own guards on when she got off the ice - I'd melted the plastic a bit and they not longer fit! I'll have to try the dishwasher next time.
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(also, they are not expensive leather boots i'm afraid ) |
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I will also say that my feet kill me when I switch from street shoes (heels or loose flats) to my skates without stretching my feet a bit. No problem when I switch from sneakers to skates.
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I've seen blades with the "dark marks" along the edges - one dark spot for every "bump" where the hard guard touched the blade in storage. The dark spots are the beginning of rust. This from skates stored with the guards on for less than a day or two.
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But yes, it's fairly normal for your boots to be uncomfortable the first few times you wear them. Try tying them a little looser over the foot (don't pull them tight, just so there's no slack in the laces), then tightening them at the ankle (do a single knot there to help you pull), then loosening them very slightly as you get to the top. Wind the laces over the hooks from the top of the hook to the underside, rather than just flicking them round, you can control the amount of pressure more easily that way. And wear pop socks or silk socks rather than anything thicker. That sounds counter-intuitive, but it works!
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Regardless, it works for me and I use them for a reason... like with most matters there's not just one right that fits all. Quote:
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On average I skate twice a week, Tu & Thu and the guards are on 24/7 the rest of the week, as well as about 22 hours on skating days... so I'd say they're definitely more on than off. Quote:
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My blades have absolutely no "dark marks" or any sign of rust on them and my coach periodically checked his students' skates... his comment to me was always how great my blades look and that I must be taking good care of them. Look, I'm not tying to start anything here... just simply writing down my experience with my skates/blades... nowhere did I write that it was better in general or recommended by the pros... all I said was what works for me and why. |
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I was speaking from the "don't make the same mistakes I made" soapbox, trying to be helpful. I guess I hit a nerve. Sorry Vegas.
BTW, your coach inspects your skates?
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Um, not to be snarky here, but doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean, if you're going to walk on a bare blade one direction, why even bother to walk with the guards the other direction? Hard guards are meant to protect your blade from nicks caused by stepping on grit that's left on the mats from people's street shoes (and protect the stray finger or toe that you might wind up stepping on, too). If you want to use them in your bag, that's up to you. But if you're that concerned about your blades, I can't figure out why you wouldn't want to protect them while walking on them. If you insist on not using soakers, why don't you get two pairs of hard guards--one for walking both ways (this pair might get wet), and one pair that stays dry for your bag?
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Just to throw my experience into the pot- I was never told not to store my blades in hard guards and I have rust lines across the middle of my blades. (They were dried before they were put in hard guards for about 10 years). They were cheap blades to begin with, so no big deal, but they look really ugly.
After I had the blades sharpened the skates were perfectly useable just really ugly. They don't have dark rust lines, just light ones. If I paid a lot of money for them, I wouldn't risk it. As for using hard guards, because i'm not in expensive blades I find them to be a pain in the butt walking to and from the benches. So I have to sharpen my blades a bit more often than i should since I don't use them.
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I learned from one of the better skaters at the rink to walk around on my toepicks. No need for hard guards from the bench to the ice, and no dulled blades. It works, although I do look a bit of a galoot...but since since I started doing it, I've noticed many others doing the same (they were doing it long before me - I just didn't know what they were doing). So we're all galoots together.
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