Are there any results out there, esp. the Championship Gold Men.

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Or Championship Gold Ladies??????

Hello from the Springs! I've got results, my friends! This has been a great weekend, and the altitude wasn't as bad as expected. I apologize, because these are from memory.

Champ Gold Ladies:
1. Leslie Amacker
2. Cynthia Crouse
3. Gail Sombati
4. Kristina Jameson (I think--she's new to the Adult scene)
5. Maureen Linhardt

Champ Gold Men:
1. Burt Powrey (?? on last name--he won Gold Men at AN's a few years ago)
2. Jeff (?-won Wyandotte)
3. Chris Williams
4. Tony Conte
5. Nicholas Kopp
6. Terrance Jenks

Champ Masters Ladies:
1. Jill Rumstick
2. Diedre Reeves
3. Dianalynn (??--only 25 and new to adults!)
4. Karen Hutter-Branson (who gets the gamer award for skating on a severely pulled groin)

Champ Dance
1. Harvaths
2. Areses
(note: it was close with these two, the Areses won the CD's with a 4/3 split, while the Harvaths won the OD with a 4/3 split. Basically, they tied....)

Final note: many of these people are on skateforums, so congrats to all and have a good night. And for those who questioned it, the TSA asked if I was competing and wished me good luck. Good thing that I carried them on, because three people lost luggage, including skates.....

Thanks for the results, Skateguard. Did Sherry Dowlen skate in Championship Masters Ladies?

Results are posted:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/event...s.asp?id=25761

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Oh, I totally forgot...Sherry placed 5th. Her mother, Yvonne, also skated a beautiful program and got the only standing ovation.

I didn't see Sherry skate because she was the last skater and I was busy getting a champ gold man ready for his warmup.

Contrats to all! I always like looking at the ordinals, and the Gold ladies sure had interesting ones! The top 5 all had one or two first place ordinals. That tell me how difficult this event was to judge for the top placements.

The gold men's was more clear cut. The first place was straight ones.

Will love to hear the firsthand reports. for all participants in this event!

I just found this link on the Gold winner Burton Powley....

http://www.icepav.com/About%20Burton.htm

A triple toe with the hand over the head? Is this guy a masters skater who is sandbagging? I feel sorry for the rest of you gold men out there, but if these articles in the link above are true, everyone else this year is skating for 2nd place. While the triple toe is illegal on the Gold Level, no Gold man in the country is even close to attempting that... Heck, the majority of masters men can't do it either.

Adults are competitive within their group, but I don't think anyone outside of the adult skating community is really looking at adult national titles as "true" credentials in the same way national titles are viewed in the standard track.... really , someone who wins a Championship gold event is not really viewed any better by people in skating than someone who wins a national title on the silver or bronze level with a single lutz or single axel as their hardest jump.... so I think that it is unfortunate....sad really that someone has to base their career by saying that they are 3 time national champion. These titles are real to the adults who win them because they have worked hard for it, but to say that they are anything else besides a personal accomplishment is foolish at best.

If this article is correct, this guy would be EXTREMELY competitive to challenge for a medal in the masters level.. maybe not gold because of Larry Holliday which I guess is the reason that he does not move up after winning multiple titles... His "career" won't be as spectacular if he can't claim that he has 4 national titles to his name (maybe even leaving out the word Adult when he tells people of these titles)

Sandbagging is a huge problem that Adult skating has to work out.

Thank you,

K. Chaiko

Correct me if I'm wrong, but technically this guy is not eligible for Masters, as he first transitioned from roller skating to ice in 1991, and more than likely never tested standard track, only adult track.

Whatever he achieved in roller skating, which was huge, does not apply to his figure skating as far as what level he competes.

Sounds like he is immensely talented, and his experience with choreography gives him an extra edge as well.

You can't really say he is sandbagging if he is not eligible for anything higher than adult Gold.

Do you mean to say that since 1998 ,when he won his last of 3 gold titles, he has been unable to pass an intermediate moves in the field test? Come on now.....I have seen adults with far less talent do that.

K. Chaiko

Well sure he could........and probably should. I had forgotten that you can go from Adult Gold to the standard track at Intermediate level. Is that right?

I appologise for not remembering that. All these rules going from one track to the other get confusing

Burton Powley is an exceptionally talented skater, and also a very funny and nice man.

All the gold men skated well w/o exception.

As one of the ladies it was a very tough and very strong group. I have no idea how it ended up the way it did but,--I think the judges had a hard time deciding because it was a group w/ solid skills.

la

I'm not sure about it either, but many adult skaters with poor basic skating skills have passed all the moves in the field tests through the intermediate test. Someone who has advanced choreography should easily be able to pass these "simple" tests in 4 years.
This is obviously a delusional person thinking that these titles will carry his career.

K. Chaiko

Congrats to all!
How 'bout dem non-qualifying results! Anybody know?
Luv,
Becca

Which ones do you want to know? I didn't see silver ladies 2 but I think Susan H did well.

la

I'm not sure at 47 I'd want to jump to Masters. Once there, you are stuck...........and the age clock starts to tick against you.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Congrats to all! That's so cool that Yvonne Dowlen got a standing ovation. And it's wonderful to have Sherry back. I hope they will both be at AN.

Wow, two sectionals down, one to go!

OK you guys, I'm gonna step up and call him out on this.

I just went to the link posted above that shows the Skating magazine article from 1999 Adult Nationals that says he landed a triple toe. I'm sorry, but A) I was there, and he did not land a triple toe; B) if you notice on the article that's posted where it says triple toe, it's a DIFFERENT FONT than the rest of the article, so it was obviously changed for the posting, and C) I have all my old Skating magazines, and lo and behold the May 1999 one with the article states "landing a DOUBLE toe with one arm extended ...."

Later in the article he has posted it says, "A little conservative in speed, he went on to land a double flip/double toe combination, a double salchow and double toe." Also, btw, in a different font than the rest of the article. Well, sports fans, I'm sorry to say the ACTUAL article (which btw maintains the same font throughout - imagine that!) says, "A little conservative in speed, he went on to land a double flip, but FELL ON a double salchow and double toe." So no combo, and fell on the other two. Alrighty then.

You know, I don't want to speculate on the motivation for such a thing, but I have to be honest with my opinion, and that's that it is totally LAME. But hey, maybe the guy really did land what he says he did, and he was correcting it for the record. But I can tell you for sure there was no triple.

Thank you to Kunduchaiko for posting this information.

I also have almost all issues of SKATING magazine, dating back to 1993, and this post made me curious! I found the May '99 article. BSBuster is right, the text has been changed on the website. The original article reads:

"Powley started his program, choreographed to "Montezuma," with flair, landing a double toe with one arm extended over his head while in the air. A little conservative in speed, he went on to land a double flip but fell on a double salchow and double toe."

Really weird. I know many people who keep their old SKATING magazines, so it's not like he couldn't get checked. Plus, a graphic designer should know the difference between a serif (original text) and sans serif (fake text) font! If you notice, he also changed the article above it, "Powley" all over the article is in a different font. The actual article says his name is "Powell" while the results say "Powley", so that one is legit.

Not to mention, that would've been the first triple at ANs and rather big news - wasn't the first real triple at ANs in 2001? If you're going to lie, at least do it convincingly.

That second article says he used his "prize-winnings" to buy an ice rink.

Ha ha ha haaaaa!! Prize winnings from Adult Nationals? The guy is either delusional, or a flat out liar.

But I'll say that IMO, on the Masters level I don't find sandbagging to be a problem. Again, I said Masters level (being a Masters skater myself).

Burt is a great guy, if you've met him. If you knew his saga of owning a rink and his travelling caravan of skaters now, you'd understand why he hasn't had a chance to test up in 4 years. His prize winnings may have been from roller skating, folks.

I think the year was 2002 but in any case your point is valid. I had read this article on the aforementioned website a few weeks ago and didn't even pick up on the different fonts or double checked it. I also have the magazine issue in question and had to pull it out off the shelf just to see it with my own eyes. Amazing work detectives! "Whenever there's trouble, we're there on the double, we're the bloodhound gang..."

I won't go so far as to call him a liar, but I will say that whoever wrote that stuff is ... misleading, at best. Here's my favorite description: 3 times US Champion and 1999 World Cup Silver Medalist.
How's about we make it a teensy more accurate: 3 time US Adult Gold Champion and (who knows what that World Cup stuff is supposed to be -- Mountain Cup??).

He may be a likeable enough guy, but the stuff on the website sure doesn't represent him very well!

That's not how the article writes it. That may not be his fault and more the fault of the writer, but it is flat out wrong and to put it on a website promoting himself without a proper correction is more than just misleading.

Well now that's strange... if you go to the website now, the articles in question (the ones with mixed font) have been taken down, or at least do not load onto the page. Hmmm...