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Old 06-04-2005, 05:22 AM
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Survey: What are you practicing every session?

I was just writing up a list of things to practice on a daily basis, and thought this would make a great discussion.

Please reply with a list of the things you are working on (either things you are good at, things that need work, or things that you are still trying to accomplish) on a frequent basis. Here's mine:

Footwork (L+R):
  • 3-Turns (have all, back inside are the weakest)
  • Twizzles (can do 4 full revolutions, CW only)
  • Power Pulls (F+B) (1 full lap+ on either leg)
  • Slaloms (length of rink on either leg)
  • Mowhawks (+Sequence) (very solid at these)
  • Power 3's (good after several attempts, not at first)
  • Crossovers (F+B) (solid)
  • Barrel Rolls (comfortable, increasing speed)
Moves (L+R):
  • Spirals (F+B) (leg parellel to ice, working on more height)
  • Shoot-the-duck (F+B) (very good, hands-free, backwards are weakest)
  • Spread eagles (I+O) (can do both inside and out, but not with straightened knees yet)
  • Ina Bauer (can't hold for more than a couple seconds yet)
  • Lunges (okay, but nothing special)
Stops (L+R):
  • T-Stop (strongest stop. Solid)
  • Snowplow (1+2, F+B) (weakest stopping with left foot)
  • Show Stop (still working on it, primarily using the heel of the blade to stop right now)
Spins:
  • Upright (4-5 revolutions, medium comfortability)
  • Scratch (4-6 revolutions, better comfortability)
  • Corkscrew (5-6 revolutions, most comfortability)
  • Camel (maybe half a decent revolution sometimes )
  • Sit (a good way to fall on my bum)
  • Backspin (meh. Not yet)
Jumps:
  • Bunny Hop (solid either direction)
  • Waltz (strong CW, can do CCW)
  • Salchow (medium-strong CW, can do CCW after a few tries)
  • Toe Loop (very comfortable)
  • Half Flip (strongest jump)
  • Flip (can't usually do it without cheating it)
  • Loop (can't do at all without cheating)
  • Half Lutz (wobbly, but there)
  • Lutz (haven't managed, but I suspect it may end up more comfortable than the half lutz)
Combinations/Sequences:
  • Salchow+Toe Loop (solid)
  • Salchow+Toe Loop+Toe Loop (good when I maintain enough speed)
  • Toe Loop+Salchow (okay)
  • Flip+Toe Loop (pretty solid)
  • Half Flip+Waltz (this one comes easy)
  • Waltz+Loop (not yet)
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Old 06-04-2005, 05:50 AM
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compulsory dances
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:02 AM
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My list isn't quite so varied, but lets see.....

Footwork and moves:
stroking
skiing
power pulls
3-turns
mohawks
crossovers
transition crossovers
swing rolls
shoot the duck
lunges
spirals if it's not crowded
cross steps

spins:
really small, I only have a one foot upright spin, but I'm learning scratch next week when I go back, and then the sit

jumps:
also still really small, I seem to be having a mental block in that I know what I'm supposed to do, I just can't make myself do it. So I"m attempting the waltz. I had it before I had to stop because they cancelled my session, and the past couple of times I went, I just can't do it anymore. Maybe next week.
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Old 06-04-2005, 08:14 AM
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I practice some really random things! lol ok so here it goes:

Spirals
lunges(sometimes)
Mohawks (for prelim skills)
3-turns (for prelim skills)
crossovers(my coach is trying to increase my speed! lol)

Spins:
Scratch
Backspin
Layback (sometimes...I just learned it)
Sit
Change sit
Camel
Camel sit
Change camel

Jumps:
Waltz jump
Toe loop
Salchow
Loop
Flip
Lutz
Axel

Combinations:
waltz loop
toe loop loop
loop loop
flip loop
lutz loop
and the evil lutz(or flip...)- loop -toe loop- loop ( that's when my coach wants to drive me crazy!)

I also am practicing sr bronze dances and preliminary skills!

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Old 06-04-2005, 08:32 AM
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Let's see:
Basic figures- yup my coach made me go back to them in a effort to get me to trust my edges on :
BRONZE MOVES!!!

Foward, backscratch and sit spins
BRONZE MOVES
All jumps through loop.
BRONZE MOVES
All segments of my freeskate and interpretive programs
BRONZE MOVES

Get the picture???
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Old 06-04-2005, 10:22 AM
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Figures:
Forward Outside Eight
Forward Inside Eight
Back Outside Eight
Back Inside Eight
Front Serpentine
Back Serpentine
RFI-LBO 3s

Basics:
Stroking
Swing Rolls (front and back, inside and outside)
Cross rolls
Mohawks
Chocktaws
3s (waltz and drop)
Cross-overs

Moves:
BRONZE Moves
Silver Moves

Dance:
All Dances -- no Internationals except for the Chocktaw on the Rhumba!
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Old 06-04-2005, 10:37 AM
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Things I'm currently practicing on sessions (Only have two left before club breaks for summer. Won't be back on until late August.)

Footwork (L+R): Includes 3's, mohawks, hip twists and more.
Crossovers (F+B)
Moves (L+R):
Spirals (F+B, change edge RFO to RFI mohawk to LBI into salchow, RFO to RFI curly foot spiral)
Ina Bauer (can't hold for more than a couple seconds yet)
Lunges ( different varieties)
Show Stop (on inside edge good, outside edge needs work)

Spins:
Upright (7-8 revolutions, medium comfortability)
Scratch (4-10 revolutions, better comfortability)
Corkscrew (Canadian term for US scratch)
Camel (close to 2 revs just need more speed and more practice)
Sit (6 to 7 revs)
Sit to Broken leg sit (3 to 4 revs in sit and 3 to 4 revs in broken leg sit, working on more speed and cleaner exit.)
Backspin (1 and half revs. still have to play with blade more and much more practice)
Catch Foot spin (workig towards Beillman)
sit/catch foot spin/upright

Jumps:
Bunny Hop (do them during CanSkate and at the beginning of footwork sequence)
Waltz (CCW powerful high and distant, after I get my backspin and loop under control, hello axel)
Salchow (getting higher off of the ice and good form, can do from both 3 turn, mohawk and LBI spiral)
Toe Loop (getting the free leg to stay infront of skating leg as landing, getting ready for double.)
Half Flip (jump I do when I wimp out of my flip)
Flip (totally rotated but trouble keeping free leg wrapped in front in air. result two foot landing)
Loop (totally rotated but trouble keeping free leg wrapped in front in air. result two foot landing, once in a while I get a clean one.)
Half Lutz (what happens when I wimp out on the lutz without enough rotation)
Lutz (almost full rotation, sometimes I get full rotation but always two footed)
Split jump
Falling Leaf
Half Loop (this is what happens sometimes when I'm doing loops. LOL)

Combinations/Sequences:
Salchow+Toe Loop
Toe Loop + Toe Loop
Salchow+Toe Loop+Toe Loop (good when I maintain enough speed)
Toe Loop RBO 3 step onto LBI execute Salchow (okay)
Waltz+Loop (Loop is two footed)
Split+toe Loop+ toe Loop
Split+salchow+ toe Loop
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:27 AM
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Footwork:
Edge pulls. Mine suck. lol
Three turns (for MITF)- ok sometimes
Power threes; pretty solid
Twizzles: not great... only usually do 1 rev.. (lame, I know lol)
crossovers: very solid
power perimeter cross: pretty solid
cross rolls: mostly good, a little tentative sometimes

Moves:
Spirals: need to work on INSIDE edge ones; outside pretty good, straight-solid
Spread Eagle: I can't do these for the life of me. SOMETIMES I can do a tiny little inside one, but they're pretty lame...
Tango stop: can od it one way pretty solid, not the other way

Spins:
Two foot: mostly solid both ways
1 foot: errrr... not consistent on either side. I can't seem to get these spins.

Jumps:
bunny hop: completely 10000% solid
waltz jump: solid
toe loop: pretty solid (could use more height and grace, though!)
salchow: practicing off the ice and hoping to try on the ice soon.

Dances:
Dutch Waltz: I know it but somehow I have trouble w/ it now! Oh well... I start adding steps form the Rhythm BLues lol
Canasta Tango: dead solid. I think I could do this in my sleep... done it wayyy too many times. Though there are little presentation things to remember (ie head up, back straight, knees bent, the cross roll needs some work, etc)
Rhythm Blues: Trouble with our beginning part, which involves me leaning back and Cody (parnter) essentially holding me up... it's great fun but not totally "there" yet (only learned it a week ago though). The dance itself is pretty good!

I'm hoping to buy one of those rulebooks so i can learn some thingson my own as well.
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by singerskates
Corkscrew (Canadian term for US scratch)
I meant the one that's like a scratch spin (with the leg crossed) but with the left hand behind the back but the right in front as normal (assuming CCW spinning).
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Old 06-04-2005, 11:51 AM
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Things I always work on:

crosscuts, always
3 turns, sometimes as figure style, sometimes as waltzing 3's and then the dance 3's, held and dropped.
jump combinations - to make sure the second jump is of quality and flow
spinning. I have a bad spin head so I spin until I fall over, it's getting better.

Things I should do every day and don't:

Spirals. meh. I can do them at hip height and that's enough
sit spins. Only if coach gets on a rant.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:41 PM
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Except for the rare occasion when I'm working on a program, I'm usually working on moves!!! I think the last three years I've been doing nothing but stuff related to Bronze Moves. (Okay! Once in a blue moon, I'm working on something related to the Prelim Moves test...)

Moves:
BRONZE MOVES! Nuf said!!!

And when that's not enough...
  • forward alt 3's (from the prelim test... yes, I'm a masochist...)
  • Power pulls (getting a jump start on the Silver Moves)
  • Prelim spirals (Oh, dear! This one is NASTY!!!)
  • Last but not least... CROSSOVERS!!! (The prelim moves test again...)
(And yes, if you're wondering... no plans or word spoken, but my gut tells me my secondary coach wants me to do prelim and pre-Juv moves after Bronze Moves... IF that's the case, those forward power 3's won't be gone from my life anytime soon. NOOOOO SIRREE!!! They are gonna have to get BETTER still, if anything...)

Spins:
Forward spins/Scratch spins
Sit spins
Backspins
Forward spin step to backspin (ISI 3...)
Camels
Camel-sit (if my camel behaves that day...)

Jumps:
(What jumps!?!?!? I haven't done much of them until I started my program as of late...)

But seriously....
  • Waltz
  • Waltz-Toe Loop
  • Toe Loop
  • Toe Loop-Loop (on a good day)
  • Salchow
  • Loop
  • Flip
  • Lutz (on a VERY good day)
  • Half Lutz (determining factor whether or not I'm having above said good day...)
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Old 06-04-2005, 02:15 PM
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American Waltz
Blues
Paso Doble
Starlight (occasionally just so I don't forget it; way too many more important things to work on now)
Westminster
Quickstep
Viennese
Occasionally Novice MITF but I think that's going to have to wait until fall
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:02 PM
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Intermediate moves (hoping to test next month)

Spins: all solo forward spins, back spin, flying camel, flying camel with the new interesting second position from the evil coach, new combo spin going into this year's Gold FS program from the evil coach
Warm up all jumps through double loop, variant entries to some jumps, and the combos or sequences that are likely to go into the program this year
Work on double flip until frustrated
Work on double lutz until frustrated

Do a couple edgy moves such as bauers and spread eagles and spirals

Saturdays we patch before moves class and I work on the figures that relate to the intermediate and novice moves tests.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:07 PM
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Well, for the past few weeks I've been starting each session off with a run-through of Novice moves, but now that I passed them (! this morning... I keep looking at the papers to make sure it's true) I don't need to do that anymore!!!

Then I do:

Running RFI-LBO 3-turns that speed up to simulate backspin
Backspin (2 or 3)
Scratch (1 unless I screw it up)
Camel (3 or 4)
if camels are good, then camel-back camel (1 or 2)
Layback (2 or 3)
Flying camel (1 or 2)

Been really lazy about sit spins. Should really do those more.

Onto jumps:

3 waltz jumps/salchow/toe loop in a row
loop (1)
flip (1)
lutz (1)
lutz-loop (1)
axels (as many as I can before I get fed up)
double sals (usually 3 or 4, my right knee has been hurting on these for some reason)

And that's about it, usually by then my hour-long session is over. If I'm skating longer, I'll go back and work on stuff that I didn't like previously. Occasionally I'll do double toes or double loops. Sometimes I'll do dances but since I'm not doing lessons/testing anymore not very often. Or if I remembered my video camera, I'll tape stuff. But that's sometimes a bust, like yesterday when I landed four good axels then went to tape them and they sucked. Whatever!
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:30 PM
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Congratulations, vesperholly! Now you can run through Junior Moves at the start of each practice.

I start off running through Bronze Moves, b/c I'm sort of on autopilot to do that. I wonder what I'll do when/if I ever pass that test.

Since I'm just getting back to skating after some time off, I'm mostly doing moves and other basic skating maneuvers, like crossovers, 3-turns, mohawks, etc. Then I work on jumps, and then spins, mostly backspins since they are the most frustrating. And then, it's more Bronze Moves.
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Old 06-04-2005, 03:37 PM
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Bronze Field Moves
1) Consecutive forward double three turns - outsides and insides
2) Consecutive back outside double three turns
3) Consecutive back inside double three turns
4) Mohawk / back inside three step sequence
5) Choctaw sequence - one side on each foot
6) Brackets

Jumps
Three Jump
Salchow
Cherry Flip
Loop
Flip
Lutz
Salchow-Cherry
Loop-Loop
Flip-Loop
Lutz-Loop

Spins
Upright Spin
Cross Toe Spin
Back Spin
Sit spin
Camel Spin
Camel-Sit Spin
Change Foot Sit Spin
Change Foot Camel Spin - can't do this one yet!
Change Foot Upright Spin

Programme
I run through my programme two or three times and spend a lot of time working on sections of it.

Nicki
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:15 PM
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"Hack! Hack" I'm choking in everyone's ice dust as I plod along at my own pace....When I'm able to get up to the rink:

stroking and swizzles as a warm-up to get my "ice legs"
edges-FI, FO, BI, FO (luv those edges!!!)
crossovers-forwards CW & CCW, then backwards CW & CCW (aiming for that push under on every stroke)

then:
3-turns-anything on my left is ok, my right is still messed up (blade is not mounted correctly... really, it isn't, I'm seeing the man next week about it!!)
scratch spins-do a few of these, maybe more if the force is with me that day...
waltz jumps-and I've noticed the off-ice training is paying off-been able to actually jump higher than 1/2-inch off the ice!! Wow was that scary! (and exhilarating!!)
spirals-save these for the end, when I'm kind of pooped out, but my muscles are really warm! My foot is higher than my head on the right, almost there on the left...
But please--no more bunny hops!!
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Old 06-04-2005, 04:38 PM
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after I've finally gotten my skates on comfortably, I work on...

Stroking: 3 times forward, 3x backwards

Spins:
1 foot spin (hopefully centered)
sit spin ( might work if im lucky )

Jumps:

waltz jump
Salchow ( ugh!!)
Toe loop
Half flip
Half lutz

Combination:
Waltz-side step- waltz jump
Salchow- toe loop

Moves:
preliminary moves
(usually work on my alternate 3's)
Power 3's ( Help me!! )
Spirals ( not bad, my leg is usually above hip level)

For fun:
Backward spirals
Back ward shoot the ducks
and chase my sister around the ice

then get off either exhasted or happy!!!

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Old 06-04-2005, 05:00 PM
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Let me be more specific, as it was quite early in the morning...

Dances:
Tango
Starlight Waltz
Paso Doble
occasionally American Waltz

Basics:
Cross-rolls (quick tempo like in the Paso)
Back cross-rolls
Forward Progressives (specifically "evil eights")
Back Crossovers ("evil eights" pattern)

Bits and pieces of my dances...
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Old 06-04-2005, 05:04 PM
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every session i...

Dance:
Working on Silver Samba and Quickstep (Gold dances)

Freeskate:
Jumps:
Double toe
Double flip
Double lutz
Double loop
Double Sal

Combos:
Flip, double toe
Loop, double loop
Double sal, loop/toe

Spins:
Layback
Flying sit

Combos:
Camel, layback, back sit
Camel, change, camel
many variations

Interpretives:
Currently working on Silver and Gold level interpretives
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:24 AM
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Survey: What are you practicing every session?

Slaloms
Stroking
Snowplow-stops
Lunges
Spiral
Edges
bunny-hops

cross-overs (still not self-starting)

waltz-jump (oh for want of a back- edge)
spin, sorta

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Old 06-05-2005, 03:08 AM
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footwork:
-Choctaws? I think those little onefooted half-turns
-twizzles in all directions 3+ revs

moves:
-backwards spirals- all edges
-shoot the duck both directions/edges on right foot
-backward hydroblades in both directions
-lunges
-bent leg lunges
-reverse bent leg lunges
-bielman spiral ( gotta be careful otherwise I'll fall forward and chip my tooth, yes I knw me? careful?)

stops:
-all single footed stops on all edges (including outside ones)

spins:
-1 footed stationary
-scratch
-sitspin (just begining this one)
-cannonball (and this one which I have no idea how to do)

combos/things I made up:
-lunge-bentleg lunge - reverse bentleg lunge - shoot the duck
-RFI three - backwards RBO spiral - scratch entry
-a wide two footed reversal (I don't know if this has a name) - one footed three ( I call it the snapback)
-a backwards 1 foot outside edge stop to toepicked induced sprint ( the touch and go)

Jumps/ jump comboes:
waltz (100% landing confidence)
toe(100%)
flip(75%)
loop(80% even though I've practiced it less)
Salchow (10%)
waltz-toe
continuous waltzes(3+ min)
toe-toe
toe-flip
flip-toe
toe-loop (soon)
I'm also working on purposly canceling jumps mid flight for two reasons:
- I don't want to be afraid of falling when I'm really high
- 540's and 900's count in every other sport but this one and that's not right
Jumps I wish I had:
Axel (still try it anyway, but I have no Ideah what I'm doing)
Salchow(honestly can't remember how to do it)
Lutz(thought this was easy then found out it's an outside edge flip (as opposed to a toe)

Spins I wish I had:
Camel
bielman

Other things I wish a had:
death drop
doubles ( someday...soon)
a flip that is disguised as a spiral
good footwork
a girlfriend
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Old 06-05-2005, 04:24 AM
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Quote:
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I'm also working on purposly canceling jumps mid flight for two reasons:
- I don't want to be afraid of falling when I'm really high
- 540's and 900's count in every other sport but this one and that's not right
Jumps I wish I had:
Axel (still try it anyway, but I have no Ideah what I'm doing)


and exactly what is an axel then ? - (1 +1/2 revs = 540 )

double axel (= 2.5 revs = 900)

triple axel (=3.5 revs = 1280)

the only difference is that it takes off forwards as landing forwards after all that, in toepicks, is likely to kill you!!!

Purposely aborting jumps is most likely to end in injury surely!

so 540's and 900's DO count in skating.

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Originally Posted by Shinn-Reika
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As for what I practice:
Not in this order though.......

Loop
sit-spin
programme
moves
crossovers -(figure of 8 )
all singles up to Loop
scratch spin
lunges (forward/backward)
twizzles (how do you get more than one rev??????)
back spin
back outside and inside 3's

chatting to friends

used to practice dance but have temporarily given it up to concentrate on freeskating.
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Old 06-05-2005, 06:32 AM
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I'm a happy Baby-skater yet; and Casey can tell you most of the skills I play around with during practice.
Hey Annie,

It was good skating with you today! It doesn't matter what skill level you're at, you're just as much of a skater as anyone (and moreso than some). Be proud of the things you have accomplished, and more skills will follow with more practice!

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And btw in my humble opinion, he skates very well
Thanks for the compliment.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:15 PM
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and exactly what is an axel then ? - (1 +1/2 revs = 540 )

double axel (= 2.5 revs = 900)

triple axel (=3.5 revs = 1280)

the only difference is that it takes off forwards as landing forwards after all that, in toepicks, is likely to kill you!!!

Purposely aborting jumps is most likely to end in injury surely!

so 540's and 900's DO count in skating.
I almost forgot the axel. I was going to come back and say the axel, but I didn't. Of course in that case for it still increases an interger number of times. As for the whole aborting thing, it started because when I learn a new jump I don't always have the strength to do a full revolution (and later get a full revolution AND get a lot of height). So I just did half jumps. And this technique seems to add a middle step in between the big one to fully master a new jump.
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