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Old 12-09-2004, 09:19 PM
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Death Drop

I have started the death drop, and have been quite pleased with the results. However, I have lost my flying camel, and my axel entry has gone wonky. My coach and I have identified the problem with the axel (swinging the leg and arms around instead of through), but we didn't have time today for the flying camel.

When I do the flying camel, no matter how much I tell myself to jump over the barrel, my left leg wants to swing up like the death drop and I end up on my backside half of the time, and with a badly positioned snail paced back camel the rest.

Anyone else have this problem? How did you combat it?
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:44 PM
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My coach and I were discussing this last Friday. I was doing some wonky flying camels, and she said that it looked like I was trying to do a death drop. My problem was in my upper body. In the flying camel, I aim to keep my upper body parallel with the ice instead of keeping my head and chest up. When I do this (I sometimes imagine lying on a tabletop), the flying camel ends up being so much better. In this position, my left leg has less scissor-like motion and doesn't swing.

Death drop--Wow and good luck!
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:59 PM
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DEATH DROP
"WoW" I tried that once and renamed it " Dead drop" Wow, if only.
I envy you if you have the ability to achieve this amazing feat. Not every body can do this. It takes guts, power and style to get into this.
My hats of to you sk8er .

Let me know when you get it down , I want a lesson.
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Old 12-09-2004, 10:19 PM
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My coach and I were discussing this last Friday. I was doing some wonky flying camels, and she said that it looked like I was trying to do a death drop. My problem was in my upper body. In the flying camel, I aim to keep my upper body parallel with the ice instead of keeping my head and chest up. When I do this (I sometimes imagine lying on a tabletop), the flying camel ends up being so much better. In this position, my left leg has less scissor-like motion and doesn't swing.

Death drop--Wow and good luck!
That makes sense. I'll try it tomorrow.
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Old 12-09-2004, 10:24 PM
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DEATH DROP
"WoW" I tried that once and renamed it " Dead drop" Wow, if only.
I envy you if you have the ability to achieve this amazing feat. Not every body can do this. It takes guts, power and style to get into this.
My hats of to you sk8er .

Let me know when you get it down , I want a lesson.
Once my coach told me this, it was easier:

Waltz jump into a spiral into a back sit. Think camel sit for that transition.

Do a frame-by-frame of an elite on tv, and you'll see the steps.

As far as guts go, when I fall on this element, all I do is sit down on my butt. None of them have been hard falls - I've had many worse ones on jumps. As long as you can get your body to do those three steps - the spin part will come, and the falls won't be as scary.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:14 PM
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Once my coach told me this, it was easier:

Waltz jump into a spiral into a back sit. Think camel sit for that transition.

Do a frame-by-frame of an elite on tv, and you'll see the steps.

As far as guts go, when I fall on this element, all I do is sit down on my butt. None of them have been hard falls - I've had many worse ones on jumps. As long as you can get your body to do those three steps - the spin part will come, and the falls won't be as scary.
I guess Ill have to get the camel spin a little better before I try this but thanks for the input, Maybe Ill give it a go tomorrow.

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Old 12-10-2004, 01:17 PM
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Waltz jump into a spiral into a back sit. Think camel sit for that transition. Do a frame-by-frame of an elite on tv, and you'll see the steps.
What a great visual.
I had always thought of the death drop as a flying camel quickly going into a back sit.

Hmm ... I've gotta try this when I get a strong, healthy back again.
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:25 PM
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Interesting - I had trouble with flying camels because I was use to pair pull butterflies. I like the flying part - but that spin..... Perhaps I'll try the death drop.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:14 PM
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Once my coach told me this, it was easier:

Waltz jump into a spiral into a back sit. Think camel sit for that transition.

Do a frame-by-frame of an elite on tv, and you'll see the steps.

As far as guts go, when I fall on this element, all I do is sit down on my butt. None of them have been hard falls - I've had many worse ones on jumps. As long as you can get your body to do those three steps - the spin part will come, and the falls won't be as scary.
You're referring to the death drop here, right? (99% sure, but having a blonde moment)
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:19 PM
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You're referring to the death drop here, right? (99% sure, but having a blonde moment)
Yes.

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