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Beginning Silver Moves....
So, I'll be starting Silver Moves tomorrow with my coach. It will be a long and interesting journey I am sure.
Tips? Basics to review that will assist me in mastering these moves? How long did they take YOU to learn and pass? All input greatly appreciated! |
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I just started working on these about 2 months ago. I had a bit of a head start b/c I had to learn the 8-step for the Bronze MIF event at NYI and my coach gave me cross strokes as an exercise to do to help with edges and knee bend when I was working on Bronze moves. The 3-turns and power pulls are my biggest challenge (although my 8-step and cross strokes are far from ideal, so I'm sure I'm going to be drilling those over and over). I couldn't really even do BI 3's, and I'd done BO 3's on and off since I learned them in group FS lessons, so I basically had to re-learn them. Now, I'm proud to say that I can at least do the turns (most of the time) and complete the lobes, albeit small ones. I'm doing most 3-turn practice on the short axis (aka hockey lines) but I know I need to step it up and move on to the actual test pattern. I found I needed to review/practice BO and BI transitions at the line - revisting the consecutive edges move.
As for a passing timetable, I've seen/heard of anything from 1 year to 2 or 3 years or even more, depending on how much practice time is devoted to moves and how often someone actually skates.
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I've been working on them for about a year. I am seeing steady improvement, but I know that I am no-where near passing yet. I can hope it will only be another year to get ready. When I finally pass them, I am going to feel like I really accomplished something! It will be a bigger accomplishment to me than learning an axel, even though I may in fact never learn an axel.
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I think the 3 turns, the forward power pulls, and the back cross strokes will be hardest for me. I have the least flow and energy in those moves. My back cross strokes are really scratchy, even when I really try to sit down and get off my toes.
Oh, and the FO-BO mohawk is "interesting"--I just learned that last week and it's pretty ugly right now!!
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I worked on them for about a year, and passed my first try. As I recalled, I think they are very interested in seeing good geometry. In other words, all of your three turns placed where the diagram says they should be. On the eight step Mohawk good flow. Spirals: nice position on both lets each spiral 1/2 of the rink on the long axis. Slide Sache, just that you have some control over this thing...this is what I remember. Have fun with them!
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I think the spirals are gone now, right?
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http://www.sk8stuff.com/f_rules/mif_...ents_adult.htm
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Three months from learning to passing. Judges want to see a consistant pattern and long axis that does not waver also candence is important ! Power really helps although they say flow they really like power and they all remarked on it
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My first silver lesson today. Not too bad. I can do most of the 3 turns in the field pretty well. My edges have really improved since I last worked on these and three out of four felt fairly secure. We also did powerpulls and 8 step mohawk. I think I'm getting the hang of power pulls, though I am not getting 1/2 the length of the rink yet, more like a third. Eight step mohawk is just going to take time. I like the moves though. |
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Two things that helped me a lot:
1. Always point the toes as you bring the foot down backwards for the 2nd half of the mohawk. I forgot that detail a few times and planted the back of my blade in the ice while the rest of me kept going. Nasty nasty hip bruises! 2. For the back cross rolls, don't place your foot *behind* the skating foot when you push off onto the next back outside edge. Instead, point the free foot and bring it down onto the ice a little behind but to the SIDE of the skating foot. Then slide it into place on the ice on a diagonal, heel first and push off onto it. Also, don't come up until AFTER you've pushed off onto the new foot. Stay deeply bent for the transfer. |
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P.S. It took me 5 months from my first lesson until I passed the test (practicing 2 hours per week, but more like 3 hours per week for the last 3-4 weeks).
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all I can say from experience .... patience ... Im still dealing with Silver MIF
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Here's a tip on the 8 step Mohawk that I've never seen anyone teach except my former coach, and I think it's truly invaluable. Rotate your shoulders strongly so your back is to the circle on step 2. You are then prepared for the Mohawk and have only to deal with your hips on steps 3 and 4. For those of us with poor turnout, this technique is almost a necessity.
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Another very helpful, though obvious thing: keep your lean into the circle. I've been reminded of it on this forum, and it surely isn't something I didn't already know, but used to consistently "forget".
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Think of your back leaning against a giant upside-down ice cream cone.
If you lose your lean, the mohawk is liable to become a choctaw, or very wide-footed, or even a funky FI mohawk with major posture problems. Judges have been known to retry the MIF if the mohawk isn't clearly an FO-BO mohawk. Also the cross-in-front at step 7 SHOULD NOT be a back crossover. It's easy to slur it into a back crossover, but it is not.
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Step 1: LFO Step 2: RFI progressive Step 3: LFO (first half of mohawk) Step 4: RBO (2nd half of mohawk) Step 5: LBI Step 6: RBO Step 7: LBI crossover Step 8: RFI |
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Yes, step 7. I was taught that it shouldn't be a "back crossover" like with a major power push.
More like a cross-step with neat feet than a "backwards crossover"
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And actually I realized a couple weeks ago (after working on the Killian for 2 1/2 months) that the last bit of the 8-step mohawk sequence is eerily like the last couple steps of the Killian. Especially when done at a good crisp tempo.
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