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Old 06-22-2004, 03:02 AM
alhrayth alhrayth is offline
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??? help! what dance was that????

Hi! As some of you might remember from my posts, I hope to join a lovely ice-dance club next season, after taking very basic adult lessons and then being in a quite poor adult skating team for the last three seasons. So you can quess that I have a LOT of things to learn about dancing.
I am currently skating every monday in a session we rent privately with some members of the club I plan to join, and I'm having a lot of fun trying to learn bits and pieces from some of them (they're a friendly bunch, no problem in stopping to give advice to a newcomer like me!). I started trying to learn some dances (apart from the difficulty of doing them with a partner - but I first have to find myself a partner first - my main gap with them is my ignorance of the sequences of the dances). So I had a bit of fun with a couple fo waltzes, and a couple more that I didn't get to see completely . Anyway, yesterday my usual private coach exclaimed: 'if you're here to dance, we'll do a dance instead of working on technique!' and proceeded to explain me a very easy short sequence that I seem to recall he called "ten step"... is that right? I have written down the steps yesterday night to help myself remember them (now, he called them with the italian names, but if I translate them correctly they were mostly backward 'runs'(?), a mohawk, a swing...) but I wish I had a chart with the pattern it should take on the ice....
Do ou think I am remembering the name correctly?
If so, do you have an idea of where I might find such a chart? Does any of you have something like that?
Sorry for the very basic question... but you have to start from somewhere, don't you?
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Old 06-22-2004, 05:24 AM
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Yes, there is a dance called the "10-step"; it's like the 14-step but without the swing roll. Try http://www.icedancers.com/technical, which may have the pattern, what my husband calls "the words"; failing that, it may be on the British ice-dancers' Yahoo group webpage, whose address escapes me but Tashakat will know! She will also know whether it's there or not.
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Old 06-22-2004, 05:53 AM
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Thank you for the answer!
I know I have the 14 step in my dance book, I'll have a look at that too. Are you sure about the link you gave in your post? It doesn't work for me....
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:58 AM
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he proceeded to explain me a very easy short sequence that I seem to recall he called "ten step"... is that right? I have written down the steps yesterday night to help myself remember them (now, he called them with the italian names, but if I translate them correctly they were mostly backward 'runs'(?), a mohawk, a swing...) but I wish I had a chart with the pattern it should take on the ice....
Do ou think I am remembering the name correctly?
If so, do you have an idea of where I might find such a chart? Does any of you have something like that?
Sorry for the very basic question... but you have to start from somewhere, don't you?
Hi, it sounds more like the 14 step to me. See if either of these two make sense to you

This is the 10 step pattern:



and this is the 14 step pattern:



The UKskaters group is open to anyone, no pressure, feel free to upload links, pictures, info etc.
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Old 06-22-2004, 07:22 AM
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Thank you TashaKat!!!
By looking at the charts you posted, I feel more inclined towards the 14step too... the steps are there, in the sequence I remember, and the pattern seems much more like it - I remember in particular the big curve of step n.4, that's where I was swinging the free leg forward & backward, in a curve I doubt I can pull off by myself - my coach helped a lot with the direction/depth...
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Old 06-22-2004, 11:25 AM
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Thank you TashaKat!!!
By looking at the charts you posted, I feel more inclined towards the 14step too... the steps are there, in the sequence I remember, and the pattern seems much more like it - I remember in particular the big curve of step n.4, that's where I was swinging the free leg forward & backward, in a curve I doubt I can pull off by myself - my coach helped a lot with the direction/depth...
Hi, don't worry about not being able to pull it off straight away! It may LOOK easy but in the UK it was a *Bronze* dance (the levels have all changed name now ....... ) and the skating level for coaching used to be (they changed that too ) Silver so that gives you a good indication of the level of the dance

Good luck and enjoy it, I loved that dance as you can really open it up (especially when dancing with your coach ).
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Old 06-23-2004, 02:26 AM
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Thank you again!
I really can't wait to go skating again next week ( This rink is simply too far from my home to go there for public sessions too... sigh!). I will try this again for sure, hopefully my coach will be there to be my partner again Usually I love BO edges, I feel quite comfortable in them - but never having skated with a partner before, I feel really weird in some of the positions. I'm used at skating in quite contorted positions doing synchro, I know I just have to adjust to some different contorted positions! LOL
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:32 PM
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There's no end of contorted positions in this sport, believe me! I've experimented with a lot of them

It's funny someone would bring this up now... I was watching my coach partner an adult beginner the other day and I got a kick out of watching how uncomfortable she looked skating with somebody... I barely remember what that was like, partly because my first dance coach was actually female and we didn't partner much, but I do remember it! I was trying to pinpoint what level I was at when partnering stopped being an effort, but I really can't. I suppose it's partly because I've had several different coaches (and one real partner) but four months ago, when I changed coaches for what I plan to make the last time, I remember reminding myself before my first lesson, "Partnering will feel weird today, you've never skated with him before, don't panic if things feel a little 'off'" and actually once we got started I felt like we had been skating together for years. That's not to say that partners are "one size fits all", but I think after awhile skating with a partner feels more natural, even if it's a different partner.
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:48 PM
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I've been a synchro skater my whole life and when I started dance, I thought partnering would be no problem. Wrong! It completely freaked me out to be skating in SUCH close proximity to someone else. In synchro, I still have an arm's length of space. It took me quite a while to get used to it. And then every time we had to learn a new position....sheesh! I FINALLY feel comfortable with partnering, just in time for my last gold test on Friday, LOL.
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