An ice show was asking for those who auditioned to be of silver standard. I'm thinking that "Silver standard" would be the Silver levels in NISA? Is that right?
E.g Silver 4 = Lutz, Axel etc? Going through double jumps?

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It possibly means the old Silver NISA standard which consisted of double doubles and combo spins if I remember correctly? It would roughly be Intermediate level at national championships.
Which ice show is it for?
New Silver in NISA is mainly singles I think? If I am wrong feel free to correct me!

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Well it said "Silver standard and it's equivalent in the new judging system"
I was just wondering, because it's my ultimate dream and wanted to know the standard that they ask for.

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With some shows they arent just looking for what jumps etc you can do but also how you move and present yourself, you especially need alot of confidence!! I was in an ice show at christmas where most of us were around old Bronze level and above and we got round Europe!
Taking part in some shows like that can also help if you are not one for taking tests. Experience sometimes counts as much as tests.
Good Luck with it!
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O yeah what level are you at just now?

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I'm not sure about my level, I think I'm around the old Bronze 2.

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Hi Mel

I think it says what it means in that you should be silver standard you would audition anyway silver qualified or not, this would basically be like a test in its own right to see if you have the necessary for a show as in literally being showy and not just doing the moves robotically.

My son took part in two ice shows in the distant past at the old NISA Bronze Test and got in over some that were of a much higher standard than him, one was even gold. With a show its more than just elements.

My advice though would be at your age to give it a few years, its not all that it seems out there. However if its the wonderful show that I have seen at your rink then obviously you will live locally and have your home to go back to. Why not poke your head round the door at the next auditions and see for yourself what is expected.

Hope this helps
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No, I'm sure that it means the 'old' standard too (ie when Silver was the entrance level for coaches and Gold was something really special).

I'm not sure of the levels now but I was doing Inter-Silver compulsories which were Gold Level 7 in the new system so I'm presuming that the equivalent Silver would now be Gold Level 8. I know that the shows previously wanted at least old Silver standard so presume that it's still the same.

At Bronze Level 2 you'd still have some way to go I'm afraid but good luck as it gives you something to work towards

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I'm not thinking of auditioning or anything, I just wanted to know what was meant by "Silver standard" because I believe it means Silver standard as in the old NISA levels, and my friend seems to think silver medalist. Also it would give me an inkling of what standard the ice show wants, I doubt I'll ever be that good, but it will give me something to work for, a goal, instead of floating about not really having anything to acheive.

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I presume you are referring to the advert for Hot Ice. They will be expecting Level 8 and above standards. Although I don't think it is necessarily just free skating as various cast members are ex-dancers and won't have the jumping skills.

Looks and presentation are the key for getting into shows with good footwork.

So let's just confirm. I'm right and my friend is wrong? It *is* the NISA levels?

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Yes, old NISA silver level equates approximately to current NISA level 8. The old test was harder to pass, however, because there were no separate competitive tests. The old NISA tests used to be structured Novice (level 1), Prelim (level 2/3), Inter Bronze (level 4/5), Bronze (level 6), Inter-Silver (level 7), Silver (level 8), Inter-Gold (level 9) and Gold (level 10). Gold was incredibly hard to pass (much harder than level 10) - only the best few skaters in the country could achieve it.

Approximate free-skating standard for level 8 is good high single axel with flow, and all the other jumps as doubles, plus flying spins etc. But as Max pointed out, ice dancers at level 8 would also be employable.

Different shows have different standards - the ad I saw was for Hot Ice, which is more of a "skater's skating" type of show, so the skating technical requirements are higher. For other shows, like Disney, where you might spend your life padding around in a Yogi Bear outfit, you might get away with level 5 or 6 (or even 4), particularly for a man, as there are far fewer men.

People I know who have been successful at auditions for ice shows, have generally taken a series of lessons just with the ice show in mind. There are requirements in the audition, over and above those for NISA tests. For example, you need to be able to have total command of all the various types of stops imaginable, you need to be able to pick up choreography and remember steps very quickly, you may need faster and more intricate footwork.

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If you live locally, and you can pop in to watch the auditions, they can be very interesting! Plus, you never know who will turn up ... There are occasional auditions which are never advertised, for pop videos, TV shows, TV commercials etc., and if you let your coach know you are interested to watch, they can tell you about anything coming up.

Are you allowed to watch auditions? I don't think I'll be able to make it, as I'm due to start College soon and I'm not sure what day it falls on. I really don't like talking to my coach about wanting to be in an ice show.

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No need to tell your coach you want to be IN an ice show.

You only need to tell them you'd be interested to WATCH ...

But he'll start asking questions and I feel stupid. Also, won't it be obvious if I say I want to watch auditions?

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Not at all... I would be interested in watching the auditions, and I have no interest in ever working in a show... I think it would be fun!

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I think he knows though, I mentioned it ages ago, but he might have forgotten.

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Jog his memory, it's great to watch.

I'd be way too embarrased, I might mention it in a while...

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Why are you embarassed? I mean, you must trust that your coach believes in you and that he believes there's potential that you COULD progress to that level, no? If not, it's sort of a waste of money to pay someone to help you get to a high skill level if even he doesn't think you'll get there.

I think you should just tell your coach what your skating plans are. That's what they are there for.

I think that he think it's recreational, which it is, but I don't want it to be just a hobby. I remember quite a while ago we were talking about ice shows and I said something like "It would be so cool to be in a show, I'd love it" and he just laughed.

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Stardust Skies is right, there are plenty of people in life to discourage you without having to pay for the privilege.
I'm 56 and there's no such thing as can't or never will in my coach's book for me.

For heavens sake at your age you have plenty of time to get to show standard, my lad did his first show at 25. But as I said beware of doing one away from home, the living conditions and wages can be appalling.

Trust me Mel this is something close to my heart and I wouldnt lie to you.

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Grace

I really love my coach, we get on great, he doesn't discourage me at all, he praises me at every given oppourtunity, it was just that one time that he laughed so I never went near the subject again. I don't want to make him seem horrible or anything, because he's far from it, he's lovely.

Thank you Grace, your support means a lot to me, and I appreciate it!

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