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Those hooks on Jackson Elite Plus boots
I read previous discussions on Jackson boots but couldn't find an answer. Here's my story: I just got a pair of Jackson Elite Plus DJ3300... did the heating molding at the pro shop the day I got them. I'm waiting for them to mount my old blades on. My feet felt pretty comfy at the toe box during first try. My heels though are no way settled in. I will be patient and heat mold the boots again the next time I see the boots.
Does anybody know how those hooks at the tongues work? Or simply, how to lace these boots? Neither my coach, the pro shop guy or I knew exactly how. We tried different ways but weren't sure. I didn't know what to do once I got to the little "splits" beneath the bottom hooks. |
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My dd has decided to wrap the right lace around the left hook and the left lace around the right hook. Seems to work for her.
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That's how I've seen it done. It keeps the tongue from slipping to the side.
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You hook the laces around them as noted above; as the right lace would normally 'cross' to the left side, it instead circles the right post and goes back to the hooks.
My son has them on his Klings, and they have helped a great deal in terms of getting the boots laced up properly, as it forces a centering of the tongue in the boot, and it's prevented having the tongue twisted and sliding around his ankles. |
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Out of curiosity: what do you mean about the heels? We had a huge problem with Jacksons - which is why we don't have them anymore - as they were too wide in the heel, leading to inflammation of the achilles on one kid as the foot went up and down when jumping - and for the other kid, the heel was shaped so that it pressed down on the bone at the back of the foot. However, this latter was fixable by our miraculous skate fitter - he pressed them and shaped them when they were heated untl they fitted.
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I'm a well-known Jackson hater, so I will only say that I'm not surprised you're having problems with the heels.
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A lot of people have narrow heels, which is why most skate brands make their stock boots available in mixed width (i.e., A heel, B ball) for just a little more. Doesn't Jackson offer this option? If they do, and you didn't get the mixed width option, then I would think the fitter is to blame for the roomy heels, not the manufacturer.
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Split widths from Jackson are $50.
My fitter said they are non-returnable, because they are considered custom. Which stresses me out, because I can't try them on before deciding. The heels on my Jacksons are a bit too wide for me (I need a wide ball) and I'd prefer a normal heel, but if I can't try them on, I'm not interested.
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We switched to Riedell for the split width feature: we were able to get the A forefoot and AA heel with no charge, no problem, and it resolved part of our challenge quite nicely. Fortunately, our coach was fine with the Riedells. Interestingly, the boots have the same posts on the tongue that are shown with the Jacksons, and we find them a great feature here, too.
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Now - I have only put my feet in these boots once. I will report again on the heel situation when I heat mold them again later this week. On a side note, the reason I didn't get Klings was because my coach didn't like them. She said the ankles of Klings are too stiff. My previous boots were SP Teri-Deluxe, which I got like 10 years ago and quite liked. The problem was the toe-box in the SP Teri has become so tight that my toes were all curved. Well I shouldn't blame the boots, but my ever-growing bunions as I age. They are huge. |
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doubletoe, Skittl1321:
If I weren't "intimidated" by the pro-shop fitter, I would have ordered split widths too. My boots have a C-width. I could have done C-toe, B-heel. My old SP Teri were a B-width. Last edited by cherriee; 10-06-2009 at 05:53 PM. Reason: typo |
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sk8tmum and momsk8er,
So after you finish lacing from toe to ankle, just before starting to lace the hooks, does your dear son / daughter lace the bottom hooks first before crossing the tongue hooks? I went straight to the tongue hooks and back to the bottom hooks. |
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The two kids reminded me that you have to make a half-knot at the top of the boot before you do ANYTHING else, then demonstrated their different skates and lacing to me:
With the Riedells: - finish the boot part - hook the first hook - cross/reverse lace at the "goal posts" - hook the second hook - keep going. With the Klings, and this is partly because the goal posts are below the first row of hooks, and because my kid has to make everything way too complicated on principle, however, I was told very firmly that it makes the tongue extremely stable, so don't question the method (sigh, it's a teenager): - finish the boot part - cross/reverse at the "goal posts" - hook the second hook - hook the first hook - hook the Kling "back hook" - hook the top hook. It looks like the hooks on the Jacksons are the same as on the Elites in terms of position, so that's likely the best method. BTW: watch the laces, though, we have found that pulling them tight around the posts can cause a snap in the laces earlier than normal due to the ability to really pull it tight around the metal. Last edited by sk8tmum; 10-06-2009 at 07:47 PM. Reason: more detail |
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Thank you!
Thank you all for helping me.
sk8tmum, I will try your kids' recommendations this week. |
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Just a curious question...why are you in jackson elite plus? I'm a bigger gal and put them on and they were like bricks. I suppose if I was doing triples I would want them. just curious....
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Sorry. [/Off topic rant]
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I picked Elite Plus because I was looking for strong ankle support AND wide toe-boxes. The Elite Plus seems to have many features designed for ankle support. Ever since I broke my right ankle a decade ago (landing a jump because I was stupid skating with loose lace), and a few years back broke my right metatarsal bone ("practicing" lutz jumps at home w/o shoes... you think aging will make a person smarter), this ankle has become very weak and prone to injury. When I put on the Jackson w/o the blades, they felt so light that I was actually worried if they will hold me up as well as the SP-Teri. I am eager to find out. |
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My weirdly-shaped feet will not fit the stock Harlicks. And I will be broke to buy a pair of customs. *sigh* Last edited by cherriee; 10-08-2009 at 02:20 PM. Reason: awkward english :) |
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My first pair of skates were a pair of used Harlick Custom's that magically fit my feet perfectly...then I took a brief wrong turn and got a pair of SP-Teri's (sorry for SP-Teri fans, they just didn't work for me), so I went back to Harlicks...Finalist stock boots. I love them and if I have any say in the matter, I'll be sticking with Harlick
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I can't help but laugh at your off-ice lutz incident...I shattered two toes in my right foot in a similar way. I was just leaving for skating but had to grab something. So I ran across my living room to do an axel and slammed my foot into the edge of a glass table. Oops!
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No offense, but what is your coach smoking? Klingbeils you'd be ordering are are completely custom, and the whole point of custom boots is to get them made how you want them. So if you ordered Klings, you'd specify how stiff you want them.
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OUCH! Mine "touched down" on the bed post.
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