Hey Terri
good luck in your interp, Im right behind you in the Masters, Ill be there to cheer you on..
" The greatest risk in life is not taking one "...

Thanks, Ross! It'll be me, Loop Loop, skaternum,watsonks (she's new to the forums) and quite a few others in a flight of 10, yes, TEN!!!

Makes me wonder if there will be two warm up groups for this event!

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I just scanned the Registration Confirmation e-mail and added up all the skaters. 8 competitors in the silver men event. There *should* be 2 warm-ups (isn't it USFSA policy to have no more than 6 skaters in a flight?), but I highly doubt that.

As for the men's gold FS, it'll be the same 4 from the Halloween event, plus Angelo Watler. Can't wait to see that event!

Men's and ladies' masters interp look to both have 2 competitors.

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Yeh hopefully it will have two 4 men per group warmup. Hey Nova, what's your fav draw, I'd rather skate last than first. I am so excited, I cannot wait.

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Well, the Halloween comp had 7 silver gents, and we were all combined on one warmup (bad IceWorks, bad IceWorks!!! thumbing your nose at the rules--USFSA must be notified immediately! ). I expect the same here.

I like to skate 2nd or 3rd. That way, you get the full warmup time (if you skate first, you need to give yourself a cool down before the warmup ends), and you still feel ready to go. Skating last is a nightmare for me. By that time, my nerves have turned my legs to mush. But in the Halloween comp, I skated last and watched all the silver men compete. That helped me to strategize; I took out a few jumps and changed some spins since no one else had them. But waiting was almost too much for me.

By the way, if I don't withdraw and I get first draw, look for me to take practically the full 2 minutes before I start my program. That also applies to the pairs event. (A total Sasha Cohen moment, but it works.)

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If you don't withdraw - that's right, 'cause you're not!!!
Oh, by the way, I think the official rule for 2 warmup groups is 8 or more competitors in a event. Another tsk-tsk on Iceworks (sorry,Ross) for allowing only a 3 minute warmup for some events and NOT alerting the skaters beforehand!!

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3 minutes???? And 8 skaters?
On competitions, I check in with the ice monitor & always ask how much warmup time they are giving. I will have them ask the referee on the other side of the ice and the people who are playing the music. Just to make sure

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Tim,
I stand corrected- I can tell you that my Pre Bronze ladies event had 6 skaters in Philly with a 3 minute warmup! To add to all the fun ( ) guess where I was in the skate order- last! I hate that 'cause I hate the wait!

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I am so sorry Terri...ouch... I only had that happened to me once when I did not check with the ice monitor. I was just starting to get comfortable on the wamrup and before I know it they announced...one minute remaining for wamrup. That was stupid Morris Open back in 1997.

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No; I don't think that's correct.

Anyway, I just shot an e-mail to a USFS official because I am sick of the competition organizers giving the competitors the shaft on skating times and warmups. It's not *our* fault that they're running behind, and we shouldn't be punished for it. Also, putting more than 3 pairs teams on a warmup can be dangerous.

Some of these clubs have been running these comps for several years, so they should know what they're doing. We all understand that things don't go as planned, but they need to take that into consideration when making the schedules (like adding 15 minutes or so of dead time in the middle of the event to absorb some problems that almost invariably seem to happen, like music problems).

There, I feel better.

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Thank you, NoVa! I was in the Pre-Bronze FS event at HC with Terri and my coach had contacted the organizers ahead of time to find out the warm-up times for her skaters' events (she had 4 of us). She was told FS warm-ups were 5 minutes, so that's what we practiced with.

I went out there, did my usual warm-up routine, and when I started warming up spins (I do jumps first), I heard the announcer say that there was only 1 minute left! At first, I thought there was no way she was talking to us - wishful thinking. I was getting ready to warm up the camel-sit when they said the warm-up was over, and I had no choice but to do it as the other skaters were exiting the ice around me - I felt bad about that, but I was at the organizers. They didn't allot enough time in the schedule for the earlier CM and spin events, not to mention choosing to start 15 minutes late. I would have handled the warm-up a lot differently if I had known about the time, as I tend to warm up fast anyway - which was how I knew that there was a significant decrease in our warm-up at HC w/o needing a watch.

Last year, I thought New Year's was pretty well run. They seemed to stay on schedule. I think they started about 10 minutes late, but they stayed that way - instead of getting further behind.

Here's the response:
"At any club competition (not a Qualifying competition) the rules are entirely up to the host club. They are encouraged to follow the USFSA rulebook, but not required to follow it to the letter. However, at USFSA qualifying competitions such as the Championship events at adult sectionals and at the adult national competition, the rules in the rulebook are enforced by the chief referee. If there are any questionable or borderline issues, the decision is made by the chief referee of the event."

There you have it ... (it's about time I finally found out about this )

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In this country, you never get more than your official warm-up time, which is the length of your programme plus one minute. Although I think for compulsory dances it's 3 minutes, but I wouldn't swear to that. I actually find a 6-minute warm-up difficult to deal with - I'm so used to a 2.5 minute one!

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Thanks Ross!
The variable warm up times reminds me of one nationals when they put 8 pairs on the ice together-and masters to boot! There are also USFSA rules for # of pairs on the ice at one time. When I asked Karen Courtland - the then person responsible, her reply was "that's ok, it's a big rink". - as if we could not cover the ice!
Looking forward to seeing all!

Yikes!

Unless they do 2 warm-ups for Bronze MIF at New Year's (seems unlikely given the limited time), there will be 8 skaters doing power 3's and spirals in one rink. Considering that at most test sessions I've seen, there are usually no more than 4 skaters in any one warm-up group, that could be scary. Especially since we're all warming up the same moves, and there aren't that many different places on the ice where you can set up a power 3 pattern or straight-line spirals.

David & I started out using the standard back crossovers in a big 8 pattern as a warmup element at competitons, which meant he was pretty much "leading." But after a few near-collisions on warmups with 4 teams at once, we've switched to a forward stroking exercise as our first warmup element. This way I get to lead and hopefully avoid crashes!

There will be 4 pairs teams on the same warmup, but I'm sure we'll avoid any collisions.
And Loops and I promise not to practice our Pamchenko in the warmup.

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Yes.. I know that was a boo.boo on our part and Ill mention that for next years event....I like to laugh and have fun with the events it takes away a lot of the nerves. and I realy enjoy entertaining you all. (Even if I go down on a jump. )
Nova..you best not withdraw from the singles, I get the impression from those of us that know you that you would be hunted down trying to escape.

" Escape is not an option for you my friend, I think we should all just hold you down , strap your skates on and push you out there anyway.
"Skate man skate. " You have nothing to loose.

Goofed again,
Been working on the wrong move for one of my MIF for the New Years event, Guess I should have spoken to coach about that one, Oh well,
had a lesson on the new move a couple of day's ago, never done it before but got the hang of it i guess, not as difficult as some of the gold moves but a challange none the less.

Hello to all, Got stuck in Portland maine last night in the snow storm,
Any body from up that way..
was flying back from Ottowa "eh" Phili was closed and all the airports within 200 miles as well so I went to Portland where the weather was at least landable, only to get snowed in there with about 30" the next day.

Had 5 of my flights cancelled today and now Im in Charlotte for the night. I wonder if i should give this away and just teach skating...

Well, I think my coach will shoot me first before any of you get a crack at me.

Oh, by the way, escape is *ALWAYS* an option.

At any rate, you'll definitely see my distraught (wasn't that my word for today, Loops?) self on Sat. for the pairs event. It takes two to tango camel, n'est-ce pas?

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"Well....that depends on what or Who...your escaping from

By the way, this is going to sound a bit odd but apart from NoVa and Flo and a few others, I really could not pick a lot of your faces out in a competition...I get the impression that most of you know who I am, so please come say hello at the competition. It will be nice to put a face to some of the people on the forum ....you all seem like such a fun bunch..

Nova... Iv got lots of old skate laces... perfect for tying you to bench while we lace your skates up for silver men . DUCT TAPE works good too....

Thanks...

I'm a very strong lad, so you'd need LOTS of laces and tape.

And anyway, the pairs event is on Saturday, whereas the silver men's FS event is on Sunday. So there.

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You are so not going to withdraw! I can't be there to see that you don't, but I have my spies.....

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Well said, Annabel. <sniff> Your sneakiness does me proud!