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Empty rink syndrome
I have found that I have a harder time skating in empty rinks rather than crowded sessions. I think it's because I tend to speed up on the empty ice and it throws my timing off since I'm used to weaving around people.
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Ah, the luxury of the empty rink! So rare, so expensive if you have to buy it.
Actually, much as I crave the rink all to myself, I have to admit I prefer if there is at least one other skater there. I also find that I work a lot harder because I'm not having to avoid others, so get more work done and tire sooner because of it. As for speeding up, interesting thought. I find my personal speed is pretty constant, though coach would like that constant to be faster.
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Personally, I hate skating in empty rinks. I find I don't work as hard as I really miss the social aspect. I don't need to talk but I need another body present.
I love it when there is one or two skaters on the ice. I find that is when I work the hardest and get the greatest enjoyment out of the practice session.
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I, too, feel unmotivated if I'm the only one on the ice. It's especially dreary in the early mornings when motivation of any sort is hard to come by.
Having a coach push you is one solution to the problem - at the very least it's another person on the ice. However, I've been coachless for the past couple years. While saving money, my skills and motivation have both slipped.
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I hate being totally alone.
On the other hand, when it's just husband and me, and the music is working..... oh, now that is totally marvellous! We love that. Doesn't happen often, mind, but once in a blue moon.
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I don't like skating completely alone either, but love it when there's only about 5 of us.
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I also like a few people on the ice. Keeps me from talking to myself...
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I know what you mean! I usually feel more charged up and energetic if there are a reasonable amount of people on the session. Having other people on the ice also helps me gauge my speed (in relation to them).
Sometimes I like an empty rink, like if I'm trying to do run throughs of my FS program, or if I want to play with stuff that uses a lot of ice and that are hard to do on crowded sessions, like back spirals or (attempts at) hydroblade moves. But usually when it's too empty, I have to really work hard to stay energetic during the session.
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i'm way too self conscious if i'm completely alone. the best skate I've ever had was when it was just me and a small section of the ice coned off for a mommy and me class on one hand, not completely alone, on the other hand no one gets in the way/you don't think you're getting in the way of someone's triple lutz...
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Yeah, I can't skate alone either. Not motivated as much to skate well... not even when I'm running thru my program too!!!
Of course, the few times that I did like skating with very few people is at our NYC meetups!!! I will also add that my FS sessions for the most part is fun too, mainly b/c most of the skaters there are better skaters than me... If there's a kid or two in there that's really good and I'm friendly with her/him, it does motivate me to push harder at times. ("Auntie Jazzpants" isn't gonna just stand there and watch!!! )
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An empty rink ..... a fresh flood ..... the sound system all to myself ..... not having to look behind me .... knowing where the boards are just by the sound .... skating with eyes half closed, lost in the sensations .... OH NIRVANA!
If I were filthy rich, I would skate 3/4 of the time alone and do all my lessons in an empty rink. Heck, if I was filthy rich, my LIVING ROOM would be a rink!
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I guess skating with other people tends to keep you on your toes a bit more...knowing that they may see you mess up keeps you skating better (at least for me).
That being said-when I hit the rink on thursday afternoons, I'm usually the only one there (for $5 too, what a deal!) so I have to motivate myself to skate well. I tend to push myself hard. On the other hand, I do have the awful thought...if I fell and got knocked out, how long would I lay on the cold hard ice before they noticed me????? yikes!!! So I try to skate well so I don't wipe out. More pressure. Empty ice is nice for working back spirals-no worries of decapitating little kids.
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I am split on this....on the one hand, empty ice is sooooo nice because I can do my moves patterns without injuring anyone or run through my program easily...however, there is that social/motivation factor...seeing others skate pushes me to go faster and to push harder....for example...one of the girls at the rink is getting on my case because "can't you just land your axel already?" <<think 12 year old, hands on hips, full of attitude>> because my axel is this >< close...I wouldn't get that if I was only skating on empty ice...My favorite was this summer when coach and I would go and skate (no lesson) on empty ice on campus here...it was wonderful
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That's exactly my thought too. I get empty ice a couple of times a week (uh, don't ask how) and there's is no one in the building except the rink guy who I always suspect is taking the zam for a run to the donut shop drive through If I splat, it could be an hour before someone notices.
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I usually skate on city ice (it's what they call it but it's pay as you go ice [$7 for 2 hours on Wednesdays & Thursdays and for the same price you get 3 hours on Fridays] during the school/work day ice) in my city which is held on the same ice my club uses weekday evenings and Saturdays. City ice can range from just me to another 5 to 6 skaters who take time off from school to train because of upcoming competitions and sometimes a university student who once was a competitive skater who then turned StarSkater who now is just skating for the fun of it.
Sometimes I like to skate alone or just with my coach because then I don't have to worry about the competitive kids (ranges from Juvenile to Junior level) wipping by me (especially for the first few months of the year, when we all have new programs and no one knows the pattern of the others' programs). I also can practice my spiral sequences to my hearts content and now worry about them getting in my way or vice versa. But then if it's just me and my coach doesn't have his CD player with him, I can't skate to my music during run throughs. So I do like to have some other skaters on the ice with me too. One problem with the city ice until the end of December is that the rink is not at least NHL size which I need to train for competitions. For that I skate once and a while in the town next door to the city in which I live where I only have to pay $2.25 for an hour and half from 1 pm to 2:30 pm (sometimes they let you stay on longer: note that it use to be only on Mondays and Thursdays but now the 1 pm to 2:30 pm is available from Monday to Thurday for their NHL size ice. Usually there's only me and one other skater besides me and my coach. My coach usually brings his CD player for that rink. But on Thursdaymy coach and I were tweaking my skates to finally get the right fit for me at the rink, so running through my program wasn't on the plan for the day.
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Empty rinks are nice for MITF patterns, but I get bored very easily. Having a few others on the ice with a mixed set of skills is where I excel. I don't like to be the worst skater, and don't like to be the absolute best of the bunch (too many people watching and saying "oooh! look at her!!", which is when I immediately unintentionally mess up whatever move I'm working on ).
I mostly enjoy the social aspect, to watch and learn, and help others out with skills. |
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An empty rink is ideal for me. I drag out the scribe and I can in the course to an hour and a half basically fill the entire ice surface with tracings...
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i like the rink empty: backward biellmanns practice time! and MIF patterns.
unfortunately I've never seen it empty for more than 15 minutes. |
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It didn't look humanly possible to be that precise.
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WOW!!!!
I asked before about using my scribe and doing figures...but so far, they don't want me to. Even on empty ice ???? I'll keep asking.
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Going off topic a bit, I don't do figures on a regular basis but used to have lessons on them and since we didn't have a scribe where we were, my coach taught me how to mark out the boundaries of a circle my size with steps, does this sound familiar? I had never ever done that, it was always scribed. Once I hit my first circle it's essentially traced. And taught me even more body control and flow Even doing skills these days, my patterns lay over each other within inches, five or six of that scrapey annoying turn spot within six inches of each other.
I do love it when I get an empty rink that's just been resurfaced. I deliberately skate on it in a way to make a pattern, like art. I had the Willow Waltz laid out once, like it looked in the book. |
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I LOVE empty ice! I go right for multiple program runthroughs, and then MITF and my compulsory dances. I find I work extra hard when there are no distractions and no one hanging in the Lutz corners! Aaaah! The luxury of private ice!
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I guess when I was growing up there was only one scribe and so we almost never used it. I guess I'm of the opinion that it is better that way. And put me in the camp that likes empty ice - so I can do figures and dance patterns and all of that - sure, yeah, it can get boring, but there is always something more to work on. icedancer2, always looking for that empty ice during the day...
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I bought a scribe last year, just to have it. I've used it a few times, but not often -- it's easier to step-measure. Someone on this site suggested using the scribe to check the figure size/shape after you skate them. Makes sense.
Our patches went across the rink width, so instead of laying side-by-side the way Bill_S illustrated, our figures would be overlapping the other way. I think someone on this board was starting a figures site. Maybe they'll give us the link. Last night, during a particularly boring supermarket trip, one of the twins said "Is there a skating session today? Can we go?" It was too late at that point, but I'm pleased that they made the request.
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