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Old 09-12-2006, 05:51 PM
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Adult MIF on video!

Check it OUT!!

http://www.usfigureskating.org/Programs.asp?id=316

Kudos to the adult committee!!!
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:06 PM
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Be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom; there's a lot of info on that page. I think there are still a couple of minor additions, one more gold move for example, to be included.
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:35 PM
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Definitely kudos!! Wish there were a way to skip the looooong intro stuff before getting to the actual video, but still a GREAT resource!! Very interesting to see the 'passing standard' demonstrated by a real adult. It's different than I would have thought--I haven't seen many adult tests. It will be very helpful for both coaches and judges!
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:56 PM
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YAAAAAY!!!! You skaters on the videos are skating *STARS* now!!!
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:02 PM
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My computer HATES me!!!

I tried and Jazzpants tried to help me... but my computer refuses to play the videos! So much for spending every night at the monitor watching forward power perim crossovers and power threes!
I do have a backup plan. I e-mailed this thread to my coach and maybe I'll ask her to burn the videos to me on DVD. Is this permissible?
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:37 PM
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They won't play on my computer either. Windows Media just freezes when I try to play them.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:06 PM
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Be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom; there's a lot of info on that page. I think there are still a couple of minor additions, one more gold move for example, to be included.
The videos are great! (sk8pics, thank your coach for his work on this! )

One thing that seems odd though, is that in the video about common mistakes, it appears to me that the video demonstrations first show the wrong way and then show the proper technique; however, the text on the explanatory screens just say "The move is skated the proper way" or something like that (when it would be clearer if it said "The move is shown with the common errors, then is shown with the proper technique."
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:09 PM
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Cool!!

Gotta love how the url, when you start to look at particular patterns, includes "adultvideo". . . . what will my browser think???
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:19 PM
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Thanks so much.. I didnt know that change within the Silver Moves (pattern change for the mohawk sequence) THanks sooo much for the link
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:09 PM
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I noticed that silver move 3 and 4 go to a Michael Weiss link and don't seem to have the link to download.

As a Canadian, these are interesting to watch since we don't do adult tests. Attached to our freeskate are stroking elements similar to many of those shown in the videos. Fro example, the perimeter stroking in bronze happens on our prelim test.

We also have "skills" which is basically like a dance pattern, set to music, but demonstrating a variety of elements. For example, 3's and mohawks, brackets and choctaws
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:22 PM
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For those of you whose computers can't play the videos - right click and select "save target as". Navigate to the folder where you want the file stored on your computer. This will download the video and you can then play if offline whenever you wish.
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Old 09-12-2006, 09:29 PM
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Well, thanks for posting this stuff! Not only is it nice to know what that durn 3-turn pattern is really supposed to look like but it's also nice to see what I get to work on if I test and pass these moves....

my husband thought the one video of the perimeter stroking was of me....I'm not sure what to think about that!
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:00 PM
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Has anyone else had trouble with the Silver 3 and 4 videos? It looks like they aren't there anymore, or have been renamed.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:53 PM
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It's about stinking time!!!! No more discrepancies!! Anyone know if they also did it for standard track moves??
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:27 AM
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There are already (very expensive) PSA videos for standard moves. Would be nice if we could view them like this for free!!!!!
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:50 AM
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Phoenix,
You should be able to fast forward through the intro part if you like. I know I have done that, but I forget if it is easier with Windows Media Player or RealPlayer, but you can definitely do it.

Stormy and Terri,
Does RealPlayer also not work? I know people sometimes have issues with older computers, updating software, and so on, but perhaps if you updated either Real Player or WMP, it would work, if DBNY's suggestion doesn't help you.

Mikawendy,
I had exactly the same thought and provided that feedback about the common errors video. Thanks for also providing that info!

I know the page is not quite complete, so they will also have to fix any link errors. Thanks to everyone for pointing them out. We started work on these some time ago, doing some of the videotaping at like 6 in the morning one day. I was so impressed with my coach showing up before 7 to do his part!
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:05 AM
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It's about stinking time!!!! No more discrepancies!! Anyone know if they also did it for standard track moves??
Well, some of the common errors are the same for both the adult track and the standard track. In judging the lower level MIF tests, I have probably seen most if not all of the common errors Phil Dulebohn demonstrated on the summary video clip.... from both adults and kids.

I think to some degree the common errors tend to be more obvious on the adult tests because many adults (at the lower levels) don't always have the flow and attack of the kids (even the lower level kids). So the common error (for example, being on the wrong edge [i.e. the outside edge] after the transition/weight shift [after the 3-turn] in the forward power 3's) is more apparent because the skater is often moving slower.

Not true of every adult and not true of every kid, but just an observation.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:09 AM
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Silver 3 and 4 are completely out of action, for mediaplayer and realplayer. I hope they fix that up.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:12 AM
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I know from seeing my coach demo three turns what they should look like, but it's also nice to see other people do the move. And having the video at hand (I put it on my cell phone) means I have a handy reference for those "duh" moments...because my arms and legs still aren't getting along like they should and working together!
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:45 AM
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Silver 3 and 4 are completely out of action, for mediaplayer and realplayer. I hope they fix that up.
They aren't there at all. I downloaded instead of watching online. When I couldn't get them to d/l, I got the properties and went directly to the URL, which is when I saw that they are missing or misnamed.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:02 AM
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Did anyone else notice that on the demo of the gold inside slide chasse pattern, she doesn't actually *do* inside slide chasses?! She takes a stroke onto an inside edge, then kicks the free foot forward. That's very interesting...... that would pass??
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:40 AM
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Ummmm... unless the skater has done a lot of skating in his/her past and is now testing the adult track, no way in HELL anyone in Pre-Bronze is gonna do those 3-turn patterns as well as Phil!!! LOL!!!

My only suggestion is instead of naming them Silver 1 or Bronze 3 to name the files like Silver Powel Pulls or Bronze Forward Power 3's or something like that. Yeah, I know. I'm supposed to memorize the order of the moves tests, but I haven't gotten around as of now to memorizing the Silver Moves (my next test) yet b/c right now I'm "nowhere in Hades" anywhere near ready to test those elements yet!!!

sk8pics: More for your coach!!! I just wish I could hear what he was saying on a couple of the videos.
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:44 AM
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I can't get them to play, either, but that's probably b/c of a slow connection - dail-up. I thought about downloading, but the time given was 2 1/2 hours (for the common errors video). Is there any chance these could be made available on DVD or VHS for purchase?

Terri, is your coach able to burn them to DVD? If so, want to share?
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:45 AM
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Well, some of the common errors are the same for both the adult track and the standard track. In judging the lower level MIF tests, I have probably seen most if not all of the common errors Phil Dulebohn demonstrated on the summary video clip.... from both adults and kids.

I think to some degree the common errors tend to be more obvious on the adult tests because many adults (at the lower levels) don't always have the flow and attack of the kids (even the lower level kids). So the common error (for example, being on the wrong edge [i.e. the outside edge] after the transition/weight shift [after the 3-turn] in the forward power 3's) is more apparent because the skater is often moving slower.

Not true of every adult and not true of every kid, but just an observation.
I am NOT cecealias, but I think she's thinking more for the higher level standard track moves test elements which the adult moves tests don't cover!
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:53 AM
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I can't get them to play, either, but that's probably b/c of a slow connection - dail-up. I thought about downloading, but the time given was 2 1/2 hours (for the common errors video). Is there any chance these could be made available on DVD or VHS for purchase?

Terri, is your coach able to burn them to DVD? If so, want to share?
I'd love a DVD version too, if nothing else, b/c I want not to be sitting in front of the computer from time to time.

I would do it for you guys, but alas, this computer geek's home computer only has DVD-R capability and would rather spend the money on getting a brand new computer WITH DVD-RW capability instead. Which is better than my work, which doesn't have ANY DVD player. (We're not allowed to have them! It's a WORK computer... and our work does not involve videos and such...just boring database and ERP stuff... )
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