#1
|
|||
|
|||
Where's Walley?
I was going over the requirements for ISI Freestyle 2, and I found something I know nothing about. It says I need to be able to do a half toe Walley. I found a vague definition on About.com, but Figure Skating for Dummies doesn't mention it at all. What's a Walley and how is it done?
__________________
deannathegeek "It's like trying to do a toe loop in hockey skates-you have to have the right tools for the job." |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
The best description I can give is that it's like a toe loop, but you have to enter from an inside edge on the non-picking foot.
__________________
-Jessi What I need is a montage... Visit my skating journal or my Youtube videos (updated with 2 new videos Sept 26, 2009) |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Toe-walley's are rarely done any more and for the most part, judges can't differentiate between a toe-walley and a toe-loop.
A toe-loop takes off from a backward outside edge --- a toe-walley takes off from a backward inside edge....very hard to distinguish in these days of flutz's and lips The traditional way to take off a toe-walley is from a forward outside three turn step on the inside edge of the freeleg and then pick with the new freeleg (ie LFO-3/RBI edge/pick LB toe and vault backward). A half toe-walley would - I imagine - take off in the same manner but land forward rotating only 1/2 rotation instead of a full rotation landing backward. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
I misplaced my USFS Learn-to-skate instructor's book....and can't find it in my ISI skaters and coaches book...
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! Last edited by Skate@Delaware; 03-06-2008 at 05:42 PM. Reason: sorry, i accidentally included a link explaining a full walley...not the same at all |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
I'm re-posting:
One-Half Toe Walley (p.42 of ISI Skaters and Coaches Handbook) The takeoff must be on the backward inside edge of one foot and the toe of the other foot. A one-half turn in the air must be made in the direction of the toe used (i.e., if the left toe is used, the rotation is to the left). The landing must be made on the same toe as that which was used in the takeoff, with an immediate push-off to the forward inside edge of the other foot. The skater's legs should be held straight and together in the air, not split. As I remember when I did this, my coach had me do a sort of "sway" with my edge going into it to be sure I showed that I was on the correct edge. Also, when I was in the air, I sort of "clicked" my boots together to emphasize that my legs were together (it reinforces that they are when you click them together). So, it's back outside-inside edge, pick-jump *CLICK* pick, forward-inside. Hope this helps. ps-here is a video, look for the toe walley at about 1:05 or so in... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeIbqZOlc3M I wish I skated as fast as this kid!!!
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! Last edited by Skate@Delaware; 03-06-2008 at 05:56 PM. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Quite honestly, IMO, it's a bit of a silly jump.
__________________
-Jessi What I need is a montage... Visit my skating journal or my Youtube videos (updated with 2 new videos Sept 26, 2009) |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Looking in my book at future levels, there isn't even a WALLEY anywhere to be found until Freestyle 7-what's up with that???
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Because it's hard!
|
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Yeah! so they make you do 2 in a row! ha!
I am doomed because freestyle 4 has a half-loop in it...I've been un-learning it for the past 2 years so i can land a regular loop.... oh well.
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
I teach this level and I personally agree that the half toe walley is a silly jump. I have my kids (this is for right-handed skaters) set up, do a mohawk, push back with their left foot, pick in with their left foot, then do the half turn in the air bringing their feet close together like a half flip. Many coaches I've talked to about this jump or level do not like it in general. They say that often it's hard for them to distinguish between the ballet jump and the half toe walley because some kids just don't know how to do a correct half toe walley or because the coach is just unfamiliar with the mechanics of the jump. Couple that with poor ballet jumps that could easily be confused with a half flip or half toe walley and you can get a real mess at this level. |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
ooops! I stand corrected.
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
I watched the video Delaware posted, and you're right-I couldn't tell the difference. Maybe it's time for me to get a coach to help me learn this stuff instead of relying on YouTube and Figure Skating for Dummies.
__________________
deannathegeek "It's like trying to do a toe loop in hockey skates-you have to have the right tools for the job." |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
I'm having a brain fart right now and can't remember the 1/2 lutz.... I don't practice either 1/2 jumps often enough (anything that lands on my frickin' toepicks I leave alone as long as I can)
__________________
Skate@Delaware Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter! |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Really great use of Walley is just prior to a 2lutz or lutz! Walleys (not toe-walleys) were at one time considered the equal of an axel in difficulty, although most skaters find a true walley to be hard (no toe pick take off). |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
but, i am proud to be the owner of a true walley. i actually take off the inside edge, whereas lots of skaters switch to an outside at the last moment (lolley? looply? woop?)
__________________
Youtube Videos |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
I love walleys and used to do three in a row in my program, but now that they aren't "worth" anything, I just do one. Bummer! |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|