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Old 01-24-2008, 06:29 PM
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Excuse-me-itis

I don't know her name but in my mind she is Miss Excuse Me. I'm twenty feet away and I hear EXCUSE ME as I'm doing some complicated spin that's tricky to bail but I do so because I might be in someone's headlights. She's doing her solo and I might be too close for her tiny toe loop. A two minute solo and seven excuse me's. There are eleven skaters on the ice, mostly doing doubles and none of them have Excuse-me-itis.

There's that's bothered me for a while, I'm glad to have shared that.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:47 PM
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OMG, I laughed my head off at this post! Been there, done that with the annoyance at it!
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:00 PM
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We've got one (a teenager) who bails if anyone is within 20 feet of her approach to a (most likely) failed double. Then, when you get off the ice, her mother comes after you telling you how much she is paying for the lessons and the ice time, and you have just caused it to be wasted! I feel sorry for the kid.
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:04 PM
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Sheesh! I get nervous when the little kids get on club ice...I bail out of jumps when I thought they were getting tooooo close! I used to yell "MOVE" because it was quicker than "excuse me" and got their attention, but mostly at my daughter and her friend...who decided that the center of the ice was the best place to stand and chat

but THAT'S funny!
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:51 PM
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I have one of these folks at my rink too. Does every rink get one?! Some days I do silent screams over these antics. =-0

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Old 01-25-2008, 04:01 AM
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I don't know her name but in my mind she is Miss Excuse Me. I'm twenty feet away and I hear EXCUSE ME as I'm doing some complicated spin that's tricky to bail but I do so because I might be in someone's headlights. She's doing her solo and I might be too close for her tiny toe loop. A two minute solo and seven excuse me's. There are eleven skaters on the ice, mostly doing doubles and none of them have Excuse-me-itis.

There's that's bothered me for a while, I'm glad to have shared that.
Yeah we have one of those at the rink as well. She's like 8 years old and already thinks she's the future world champion just because she can land an axel, and her parents think she's the queen or something.
The funny part about that is that even the girls who do nationals at our club only see reason to yell "excuse me" when they're doing a last programme run-through before a MAJOR competition, or when they're doing a backward change-edge biellmann spiral. Getting in the lutz corner doing a MIF pattern all focussed and oblivious, causing somebody to bail on a bigass double lutz in programme is not even going to get you glared at the first time (though after that you are expected to get a clue.)
But no, not our little ms. Excuse Me. Who's actually more of a ms. You're In My Way and a ms. Move! She thinks that if the rest of the world revolves around her, so should the ice rink.

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Old 01-25-2008, 06:52 AM
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Have you ever noticed that these same Ms-Excuse-Me's haven't learned anything when it comes to getting out of someone else's way? We have a few that get SOOO peeved if someone gets in their way when they are setting up for their 112th WALTZ JUMP, but won't move when the other person is in the middle of their program. If you want others to move for you, pay them the same courtesy....
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:58 AM
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My coach used to joke about making T-shirts that said "When your jumps are as big as your ego, THEN I'll get out of your way!" Seriously, it is annoying. When one of our kids starts pulling that stuff, I usually mention it to the coach so they can give a little lesson on ice etiquette. It works some of the time, anyway. We don't currently have any diva-itis going around, but I expect another outbreak eventually. It seems to be a stage a lot of them go through.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:53 AM
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We have one of those - she's about 11 I think, and while she expects everyone to move for *her* she won't move for anyone else, even when the other person is in lesson. My coach simply continues our pattern, purposely coming scarily close to her. And don't get on my coach, this is after months of aborting patterns for LittleMissIceQueen, and he is plenty skilled to pull this off without hurting anyone.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:16 AM
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The funny part about that is that even the girls who do nationals at our club only see reason to yell "excuse me" when they're doing a last programme run-through before a MAJOR competition, or when they're doing a backward change-edge biellmann spiral.
Normally at our rink too these are the only people who yell an excuse me, in the case of back edge blind moves, and it's a run through the coach will skate through everybody first saying "bielmann!!!!" and we run for the boards.

I really think this girl has her excuse me's choreographed into her program and/or that she's done it so often it's become second nature. I'm totally pumped to see at our next competition if she lets one fly while out on the ice all by herself.
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:21 AM
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I really think this girl has her excuse me's choreographed into her program and/or that she's done it so often it's become second nature. I'm totally pumped to see at our next competition if she lets one fly while out on the ice all by herself.
ROFLOL!!!! Let us know if she slips and yells "Excuuuussssmeeee!" during her competition. (Love it: Choreographed ... too funny!)
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:58 AM
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We had a Russian coach where I skated as a kid who would stand (and skate around) in between the hockey circles in the middle of the jumping pattern. I have not idea why anyone would want coach from there but it was so frustrating. He wouldn't move if even it was your program and would, I swear, skate at you as you were going into a jump. I thought about learning "Excuse Me" in Russian to see if it would work.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:42 AM
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thankfully, I haven't noticed anyone like that at our rink. I generally try to get out of the way for dancers/programs/lessons, and if I see someone practicing a move in a circle (jump or spin), I generally go somewhere else. Sometimes people do shout 'Excuse me' in their program, but it's not really that annoying.

I disagree with the idea that it's better to keep moving if you think you may collide with someone. Isn't it more sensible to stand still to let the other person decide how to pass you? Otherwise you might both go for the same corner/side and BANG...

p.s. on, and some people ask nicely: "I'm going to do a double here, could you please move?" and in that case, I do, and I warn other people if they're about to come into that area. SHARE the ice...
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:47 PM
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I thought about learning "Excuse Me" in Russian to see if it would work.
I think you'll have better luck with the significantly less polite "Blia! Nie (like in "niente") lez (bit like "lace") pod nogi!"
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:56 PM
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I disagree with the idea that it's better to keep moving if you think you may collide with someone. Isn't it more sensible to stand still to let the other person decide how to pass you? Otherwise you might both go for the same corner/side and BANG...
I was told that it's better to keep moving, they can tell where you are going then, unless you suddenly change direction. I struggle with people who stop dead as they then panic and generally move in the direction I've picked to go in. I've also come to the conclusion that if you're good enough to do x move, you are good enough to skate around me and not through me and hopefully you have breaks which work!

There's one girl at our rink who is insisting on learning to dance and can do the first three basic dances, but has decided that she doens't need to learn how to stop because that's what her coach is for. She nearly took half the rink out tonight because she can't control and edge, couldn't cope with me doing my moves pattern and they're not that exciting it's semi-circle after semi-circle but I doubt this girl knows that moves tests exist yet, so I 3-turned and found her barrelling down on me, and then she managed to carry on and nearly take out two kids who were spinning, they managed to dive in different directions to avoid her. She's not started on the excuse-mes yet, but I'm sure if anyone is going to, it's her.

My biggest problem is that I go around the rink apologising to everyone for being in the way. I'm forever shouting sorry and that is including when I'm in lesson.
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Old 01-25-2008, 03:48 PM
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My biggest problem is that I go around the rink apologising to everyone for being in the way. I'm forever shouting sorry and that is including when I'm in lesson.
That's so me also. I feel bad about getting in people's way. However, the only girls on my ice time that don't know what to do (aka get out of the way especially when someone cannot see you...) are the very young ones. It bugs me even more when people don't announce themselves!!!

A young girl who just started privates was doing edges or wiggles or something on the line I was using to line to do 2loops on during my lesson (she was on lesson too). Her coach loudly tells her about five times to stop and move, except the only person who can hear her appearently is me.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:19 PM
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My biggest problem is that I go around the rink apologising to everyone for being in the way. I'm forever shouting sorry and that is including when I'm in lesson.
Oh, so am I! Or I yell "Mind X!" at Husband, and poor X thinks I mean he or she should mind out.

The worst is when you and another skater are doing moves and you end up on colliding lobes, and somehow no matter how hard you try you can't stop being on a collision course with them....

Our worst ice princess is actually a guy in his 30s or 40s - it doesn't seem to have occurred to him that other people won't get out of his way, so he just proceeds blithely around with his head down, totally unaware that anybody else is on the ice, never mind has just had to abort their pattern so he can proceed serenely on with his.....
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:21 PM
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Have you ever noticed that these same Ms-Excuse-Me's haven't learned anything when it comes to getting out of someone else's way? We have a few that get SOOO peeved if someone gets in their way when they are setting up for their 112th WALTZ JUMP, but won't move when the other person is in the middle of their program. If you want others to move for you, pay them the same courtesy....
I know exactly what you mean. I think just about everyone who goes to my rink is a Miss-Ecuse-Me, and couldn't show the same courtesy if they had to. Whenever I get in someones way, or they get in mine, I always say "sorry," just to aknowledge them (unless they are in a program). Then I get a rude snort and a dirty look and they skate off. However, there is one little girl at my rink who is about ten and she is so sweet!!!! We often get in each others way but she always says "oh, i'm so sorry." I think she feels the same way I do and i just releived to have run into someone who actually shows some courtesy.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:38 PM
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Heck, I wish I could get my students to SAY "excuse me" when people are in their way during their program. Not excessively, but they usually just end up trying to go around them which of course makes them late in their program. I'm like "JUST SAY EXCUSE ME! DON'T BE MEAN ABOUT IT, BUT SAY EXCUSE ME AND THEY'LL MOVE!!!"
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:04 PM
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I AM that person. My rink is notorious for coaches and skaters who do NOT get out of the way. And the skater doing the program wears a bright orange belt so you know who's program is going. And I'm sorry, if a skater/coach is going to be oblivious, I will yell excuse me. Not to be rude or snotty, but to get their attention. And I always apologize if I accidentally get in someone's way. There's defintiely a difference at my rink between someone accidentally getting in my way, and someone not paying attention at all. And there's too many people not paying attention.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:46 AM
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Our worst ice princess is actually a guy in his 30s or 40s - it doesn't seem to have occurred to him that other people won't get out of his way, so he just proceeds blithely around with his head down, totally unaware that anybody else is on the ice, never mind has just had to abort their pattern so he can proceed serenely on with his.....
We used to have one like that, the funny thing is that he also drives the same way, totally oblivious to other cars, switching lanes without indicating or indicating after the event, I was unfortunate enough to be driving behind him one morning and when we arrived at the rink, he had no idea what I was talking about!!
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:09 AM
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We used an orange vest last year and it worked well; this year we just don't seem to need it. for some reason the sessions I skate on aren't crowded. We are very lucky, if it's a certain dad, he will "announce" the next skater and we look out.

Most of the time we are aware but it's been a long process. We had this discussion the other day...if some of our kids skated at other rinks they'd be creamed!!!!

Some of you guys should come down here and skate while the skating is good!!!! (we have a new skating director and I'm sure things will change on the ice-right now we are recreationally-geared but the new director wants to go "USFSA-training" who knows what that means to those of us that skate for fun-which is 95% of us).
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:36 AM
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Oh, so am I! Or I yell "Mind X!" at Husband, and poor X thinks I mean he or she should mind out.
I'm convinced I'm always in someone's way, my coach says it's only very recently that I have finally stopped leaping for the boards when I even think there's a possibility that someone might be about to head in my direction!

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Our worst ice princess is actually a guy in his 30s or 40s - it doesn't seem to have occurred to him that other people won't get out of his way, so he just proceeds blithely around with his head down, totally unaware that anybody else is on the ice, never mind has just had to abort their pattern so he can proceed serenely on with his.....
I'm thinking the person you're referring to is the one who managed to collide with me when we were the only two people on the ice one morning...
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:53 AM
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And I'm sorry, if a skater/coach is going to be oblivious, I will yell excuse me.
you missed the point but it doesn't matter. It's been a fun thread.

It's been different skating at a rink that uses excuses me's, I need to learn to start using it myself, judiciously but at the same time, to get out of the way of people doing jumps that will kill me if I get in the way.

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Old 01-26-2008, 01:24 PM
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I yelled "excuse me" at Oksana Biaul once, after she had gotten in my way for the third time when I was in a MIF lesson. She looked at me like I was crazy, but did stay out of my way after that!
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