Mids Schedule

[sk8er1964]

It deserves it's own thread.

It was posted here: http://www.skatingforums.com/showpost.php?p=384076&postcount=10

I hope the referee hears complaints about the championship gold and masters novice/intermediate schedule. I've made mine. To put a championship event at 8:20 in the morning is awful - who is going to come to watch them? Isn't that part of the fun of a sectionals? I know it is for me - I love an event that ends with the awesome masters skaters (although I do realize that the championship pairs do put a wrench in the schedule because of people doing both championship pairs and singles.) Personally, I wouldn't mind at all skating my solo dance at that time of the morning - but not the championship event.

Add to it the fact that we're paying twice as much as the other skaters to skate on mini-mite ice (sorry, hockey reference) is worse. What about the skaters flying in from the west? They're skating even earlier, according to their body clocks.

[Black Sheep]

I wanted to get Champ. Gold Ladies overwith on Saturday, then go out and party! :roll:

[doubletoe]

2009 Adult Midwestern Sectional Championships
Deborah Burgoyne North American Invitational
Saturday, Februrary 21st and Sunday, February 22nd, 2009

8:00 a.m. Event 1 - Pre Bronze Ladies Young Adult/II
8:00 a.m. Event 2 - Pre Bronze Ladies III/IV
8:21 a.m. Event 3 - Bronze Men III/IV/V
8:36 a.m. Event 4 - Bronze Ladies I
8:36 a.m. Event 5 - Bronze Ladies II
8:36 a.m. Event 6 – Bronze Ladies III
8:57 a.m. Event 7 – Bronze Ladies IV
8:57 a.m. Event 8 – Bronze Ladies V
9:18 a.m. Event 9 – Silver Men III
9:18 a.m. Event 10 – Silver Men IV/V
9:57 a.m. Event 101 – Championship Gold Men
10:12 am. Event 102 – Championship Masters Intermediate – Novice Men
10:30 a.m. Event 103 - Championship Masters Junior – Senior Men
11;06 a.m. Event 11 – Young Adult/Adult Ladies Ladies Interpretive I
11:24 a.m. Event 12 – Adult Ladies Interpretive II
11:42 a.m. Event 13 – Adult Ladies Interpretive III
12:00 p.m. Event 14 – Adult Ladies Interpretive IV
12:24 p.m. Event 15 – Adult Ladies Interpretive V
12:42 p.m. Event 16 – Young Adult Masters/Masters Ladies Interpretive I
1:00 p.m. Event 17 – Masters Ladies/Mens Interpretive II/III
1:24 p.m. Event 18 – Masters Ladies/Men Interpretive IV
1:54 p.m. Event 104 – Championship Dance
2:21 p.m. Event 19 – Gold Solo Dance
2:33 p.m. Event 20 – Pre-Gold Solo Dance
2:45 p.m. Event 21 – Silver Solo Dance
3:00 p.m. Event 22 – Pre-Silver Solo Dance
3:18 p.m. Event 23 – Bronze Solo Dance
3:30 p.m. Event 24 – Pre Bronze Solo Dance
3:48 p.m. Event 25 – Preliminary Solo Dance
3:57 p.m. Event 26 – Pre-Bronze Dance Initial Round
4:15 p.m. Event 27 – Gold Dance Critique
4:45 p.m. Event 105 – Championship Pairs
5:03 p.m. Event 28 – Gold Pairs
5:27 p.m. Event 29 – Bronze Pairs Exhibition
5:27 p.m. Event 30 – Masters Pairs Exhibition
5:45 p.m. Event 31 – Pre-Bronze Dance Final Round
6:03 p.m. Event 32 – Centennial Dance Critique

Competitor’s Party – Wyandotte Boat Club

8:20 a.m. Event 106 – Championship Gold Ladies
9:23 a.m. Event 107 – Championship Masters Intermediate – Novice Ladies
9:56 a.m. Event 33 – Gold Ladies II/IV
10:17 a.m. Event 34 – Gold Men III/IV
10:32 a.m. Event 36 – Silver Ladies I
10:53 a.m. Event 37 – Silver Ladies II
11:14 a.m. Event 38 – Silver Ladies III
11:38 a.m. Event 39 – Silver Ladies IV
12:17 p.m. Event 108 – Championship Masters Junior – Senior Ladies
1:20 p.m. Event 109 - Championship Dance
1:41 p.m. Event 40 - Gold Dance

[flying~camel]

If I was competing, I'd be at 10:30 on Sunday. Hmmm, no thanks! :)

I'll be there to cheer everyone on (even at 8:30 on Sunday morning, if they keep champ Gold at that time)!

[manleywoman]

Actually this works out perfectly for me, since I couldn't come in until Saturday! I'm doing Champ Int/Nov.

I couldnt' get in until Saturday, so this works out great for me. It's a bit early, but better than leaving at 4:00 am with a 5 month old baby on Saturday to do a Saturday afternoon event.

I understand some are unhappy, but personally I couldn't be more relieved.

[sk8er1964]

I don't mind champ gold/champ intermediate novice being on Sunday at all. Just that it should be after the Silver ladies, not before it. Right before the other championship events.

[manleywoman]

I don't mind champ gold/champ intermediate novice being on Sunday at all. Just that it should be after the Silver ladies, not before it. Right before the other championship events.

Ideally, yes. I wasn't remarking so much about the time. I'm more just happy it;s Sunday.

[Mel On Ice]

Ordinarily, I'd be delighted with this schedule as all my events would be over by noon on Saturday.

Crap, I'm guessing I wasn't on the list to judge this event.

[sk8ryellow]

my mom is doing adult nationals gold non-qualifying. She is 44 and I think she has a strong chance at winning!

[Mel On Ice]

I wouldn't want to judge camp gold because there are too many good skaters competing.

[manleywoman]

I wouldn't want to judge camp gold because there are too many good skaters competing.

Is there a list of entries somewhere?

[sk8ryellow]

I'm not sure. I watched adult nationals from last year and I was really surprised at how good some of the adult skaters really were. And I'm not talking age 21 I'm talking like age 35 and up.

[doubletoe]

my mom is doing adult nationals gold non-qualifying. She is 44 and I think she has a strong chance at winning!

OK, but I'm going to try to give her a challenge, LOL!

[RachelSk8er]

I'm just glad all 5 of my events are not on the same day!

I've got the 4 events that don't stress me out or require much thinking on Saturday (interp and 3 solo dances one after the other, hopefully I will have time in the skating order to change), and with the highest level dance first so I won't kill myself on the 14 step and be tired for the tango and blues.

Then I can do my dreaded freestyle Sunday and can just focus on that.

[Black Sheep]

Is there a list of entries somewhere?

Me, techskater, skater1964....and the rest! ;)

[techskater]

There are probably 7 more and I could name them, but won't for privacy's sake. 8-)

[sk8ryellow]

OK, but I'm going to try to give her a challenge, LOL!

LOL I think its great that there are adult skaters that actually can do something. At my rink there are three adult skaters my mom and two other beginer skaters.

[doubletoe]

LOL I think its great that there are adult skaters that actually can do something. At my rink there are three adult skaters my mom and two other beginer skaters.

Yeah, we 44-year olds rock! ;)

[coskater64]

I would agree with that even though I am 44 1/2.8O8O

[flying~camel]

There are probably 7 more and I could name them, but won't for privacy's sake. 8-)

There are 2 new Gold ladies from Grand Rapids who are skating champ at Mids! :D

[sk8er1964]

I would agree with that even though I am 44 1/2.8O8O

Old fogie! I'm 44 and 2 1/2 months! :halo:

The champ gold ladies is an hour and 3 minutes long. I'm guessing 2 five minute warm ups, 4:00 per skater......12-13 skaters? How many can you have in a warm up?

[daisies]

Old fogie! I'm 44 and 2 1/2 months! :halo:

The champ gold ladies is an hour and 3 minutes long. I'm guessing 2 five minute warm ups, 4:00 per skater......12-13 skaters? How many can you have in a warm up?

I calculate 14 skaters, plus/minus one skater, depending on how tight a ship the referee intends to run.

There can be a max of six in a warmup for a qualifying event, and the warmup is six minutes long. Each skater's program is a max of 2:40, plus add 30 seconds per skater for the time it takes to get on and off the ice. Given that, it's 3:10 per skater.

Subtract 18 minutes (three six-minute warmups) from the 63-minute length of the event, and that leaves 45 minutes. Fourteen skaters at 3:10 apiece equals 44 minutes/20 seconds -- in other words, 45 minutes!

But I always sucked at math, so don't blame me if you get there and there's, like, 18 people in your group. ;)

[techskater]

I caculated 12 people in the group based on the amount of time given for PCAS (85 minutes) for 16 skaters (4.4 minutes/skater)

[daisies]

Never mind, I was rambling as usual.... :)

[RachelSk8er]

LOL I think its great that there are adult skaters that actually can do something. At my rink there are three adult skaters my mom and two other beginer skaters.

Even the beginner adult skater can actually "do something." For every adult skater who can barely manage a tiny waltz jump or forward crossovers, there are hundreds of people who wish they could even do that (or wish that they had the guts to even try a sport that is stereotyped for tiny little girls when they are adults).

[Mel On Ice]

And I am judging! Working on that stern look as we read.

[sk8er1964]

Sneer a little bit when a frightened skater dares to peep at you in the judging stand. That will make them feel so much better! ;) :lol:

[manleywoman]

Yay! Mary Moss sent out the list of competitors, which is nice to have in advance (though so many new names I don't recognize . . . new blood! Yay!). And it seems they moved the Golds apart, so that's good.

[daisies]

Yay! Mary Moss sent out the list of competitors, which is nice to have in advance (though so many new names I don't recognize . . . new blood! Yay!). And it seems they moved the Golds apart, so that's good.

How many Champ gold ladies are there?

[sk8er1964]

14 Biggest Mids group that I can remember. Lots of names I've never heard.

[manleywoman]

Same here. Besides Jenny, Leslie and myself, I've never heard of the other three ladies in the Champ Int/Nov group.

New blood! :twisted:

[daisies]

14 Biggest Mids group that I can remember. Lots of names I've never heard.
14! I guess I am better at math than I thought! ;)

[techskater]

I hope the ref expects to run behind on Sunday because the other two sections have 1 and 2 more respectively and have 20 additional minutes! :lol:

[daisies]

I hope the ref expects to run behind on Sunday because the other two sections have 1 and 2 more respectively and have 20 additional minutes! :lol:
I think the other two sections will run ahead.... more than 4 minutes per skater for a 2:40 program using 6.0 is an eternity!

[flying~camel]

The AN LOC Chairs will be at Mids in 2 weeks (as spectators; none of us are competing), so if you have any forms you need to turn in, you can save a stamp and just give it to me there.

We'll be the loud, annoying ones with the West Michigan Adult Skaters banner ;)

[techskater]

I think the other two sections will run ahead.... more than 4 minutes per skater for a 2:40 program using 6.0 is an eternity!

I suspect the other refs took into account sweeping.

[daisies]

I suspect the other refs took into account sweeping.

Excellent point!

[RachelSk8er]

The AN LOC Chairs will be at Mids in 2 weeks (as spectators; none of us are competing), so if you have any forms you need to turn in, you can save a stamp and just give it to me there.

We'll be the loud, annoying ones with the West Michigan Adult Skaters banner ;)


Can I give you the program info that's due on the 15th then, or would you rather that be mailed in by the 15th?

[flying~camel]

Can I give you the program info that's due on the 15th then, or would you rather that be mailed in by the 15th?

You can just give it to me there!

We're going to bring some extra blank copies of all of the forms, too, just in case people forget :)

[RachelSk8er]

I suspect the other refs took into account sweeping.

Boo nets at Wyandotte!! :(

[sk8er1964]

Boo nets at Wyandotte!! :(

Nah - that's half of the fun.

Whoever threw me that beanie last year that got stuck in the rafters at Vets - well, it's still there! :lol:

[flying~camel]

Whoever threw me that beanie last year that got stuck in the rafters at Vets - well, it's still there! :lol:

LOL! I almost had one stuck on top of the net at Vets, but someone shook it down for me!

No need to worry about nets at ANs - they're only up on the ends of the ice!

[RachelSk8er]

I was able to launch stuffed roses over the nets at NYI after my training buddies did their free dance. They were very aerodynamic.


Will anyone from the Troy comp in April be at Mids to collect applications (no biggie I can mail it in when I get back if not)? I'm still undecided on whether or not I'll do it, all depends on how I skate at Mids and whether my events at the Cleveland comp in March will be held (schedule for that should be out soon, guessing I will be able to do interp because 2 bronzes from my club signed up so there are at least 3 of us, but prob not free unless the local silver V man signed up and we'll skate against each other).

[flying~camel]

Will anyone from the Troy comp in April be at Mids to collect applications (no biggie I can mail it in when I get back if not)?

I think w.w.west will be at Mids taking apps for the A4A competition.

I need to turn mine in, too! I'm doing Bronze compulsories & A/D Interp.

[SkaterBird]

I think w.w.west will be at Mids taking apps for the A4A competition.

I need to turn mine in, too! I'm doing Bronze compulsories & A/D Interp.

I'm doing my very first ever pre-bronze free skate at the A4A competition, so I hope there's at least one other competitor in the event. I'm "skating up" to it (unless I have by some miracle passed pre-bronze by then) and will have minijumps at best (waltz, half flip, falling leaf, MAYBE toe-waltz), so if someone out there at this level wants a first place finish, they're pretty much assured one if they enter this event with me!!!:)

[manleywoman]

Well, here's hoping I can make it and don't have to withdraw. They are looking at 6-8 inches of snow in our area between Friday night and Saturday afternoon, and I cannot leave until Saturday morning at the absolute earliest. Frankly, since it was already going to be a difficult drive with a 6 month old in the backseat, I may have to back out.

Playing it by ear . . .

[RachelSk8er]

Well, here's hoping I can make it and don't have to withdraw. They are looking at 6-8 inches of snow in our area between Friday night and Saturday afternoon, and I cannot leave until Saturday morning at the absolute earliest. Frankly, since it was already going to be a difficult drive with a 6 month old in the backseat, I may have to back out.

Playing it by ear . . .

I was going to leave Sat morning (my first event is 12:42 and it's only a 2.5 hr drive for me)...but with western Ohio/S Michigan getting all that snow tomorrow morning, I'm going up tonight instead. We got hammered with snow last night but it's pretty much cleared up now, so better get there while there is a break in the weather!

[Black Sheep]

I'm leaving Chicago right after lunch, before the Friday-night storm is supposed to get here. I'm heading east to MI so's I can race away from it! ;)

I worry about people flying in from states further west....