Morozov's stable....new additions? [Archive]

icesupport

03-11-2003, 09:17 AM

Does anyone have info on dance teams being added to this coach's training stable for next year? I've heard an amazing rumor last week...that Gregory/Petuhkov will train with him and that Jamie Silverstein will pair with Danil Barantsev. Any credibility to either one of those whoppers?

That would give him Bourne/Kraatz and L/T plus, I believe the 3rd ranking Russian team of Romanutia/Markov, plus these other two. Or did I have a bad dream???

VGL

03-11-2003, 09:26 AM

He's working with the Canadian team of Doherty and Myles for choreography next season.

And while B&K will probably be working with him for the rest of their career, I'm sure they'll be touring most of next season.

Trillian

03-11-2003, 09:46 AM

Romaniuta & Markov aren't the third-ranked Russian team--not yet, anyway, although I wouldn't count out the possibility in the future. In fact, I'm not sure I've heard 100% confirmation that they're even skating together, although I've heard the rumor from enough sources that it seems pretty likely to be the case.

Gregory & Petukhov - hmm. Since I've heard Morozov is fairly dedicated to Lang & Tchernyshev I'd be a little surprised if he was taking on such direct competitors, but you never know. It's not like G&P are major challengers to L&T at this point.

Silverstein & Barantsev - based on what I've heard, absolutely not; I don't believe she's skating at all these days, and even if she was, I wouldn't expect Lang & Tchernyshev's coach to take her on as a student. Don't hold your breath.

tulip

03-11-2003, 01:11 PM

Any word on if Morozov is going to be staying in Newington? I'm assuming he'll be moving to get away from the rink mess.

Impromptu

03-11-2003, 03:33 PM

Haven't heard the Gregory & Petuhkov one.

I think the Romaniuta & Markov are with Morozov rumor is correct.

Barantsev tried out with Silverstein (among other American ladies) and will be having another one with her (and others). At this point, while it's more than a rumor/wishful thinking, it's certainly not a sure thing that a partnership will happen.

bleu

03-11-2003, 09:58 PM

He has a stable!

he he...:lol: :lol:

CanAmSk8ter

03-12-2003, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by tulip
Any word on if Morozov is going to be staying in Newington? I'm assuming he'll be moving to get away from the rink mess.

Not that I've heard, although I wouldn't rule it out for after this season. I'm sure a lot of rinks would love to have him. Right now the bank has hired a rink management company to run things and nothing as far as ice time has changed. In fact, now that hockey is winding down, all the figure skaters have more available ice time.

As for new skaters, Kevin Van Der Perren is the only one I haven't heard mentioned. He's been here for awhile now.

geoffil

03-12-2003, 01:05 PM

G & P skate at the Center Ice of Dupage in Glen Elyn, Illinois. I saw their coach at the rink yesterday. I hope they don't leave

DancerFan

03-12-2003, 01:15 PM

I would not be surprised IN THE LEAST if:

1.) G&P leave Chicago and relocate to Morozov, and
2.) Jamie and Daniil start skating together, although I don't know where.

G&P haven't been thrilled with their coaching lately, and Igor has been after Daniil for Jamie for YEARS. But, since I've also heard that Romaniuta & Markov are with Morozov, I doubt Daniil would go there too, and also I highly doubt Jamie would go anywhere Naomi is.

Tony Wheeler

03-12-2003, 06:59 PM

Here's what I know.

Jamie & Daniil are having a tryout until around the time of Worlds. The possibility of them skating together seems to be quite realistic at this point, but Daniil will have some other tryouts soon as well. This news comes directly from Jamie & Daniil.

As for Romanuita & Markov, I don't think it will happen.

Angel01673

03-12-2003, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by DancerFan
I would not be surprised IN THE LEAST if:

1.) G&P leave Chicago and relocate to Morozov, and
2.) Jamie and Daniil start skating together, although I don't know where.

G&P haven't been thrilled with their coaching lately, and Igor has been after Daniil for Jamie for YEARS. But, since I've also heard that Romaniuta & Markov are with Morozov, I doubt Daniil would go there too, and also I highly doubt Jamie would go anywhere Naomi is.

Why wouldn't Jamie go any where Naomi is traning? They seemed pretty friendly when they were both trianing with Shiplband.

MyTripleFlutz

03-12-2003, 09:10 PM

I wouldn't mind taking a ride in Morozov's Stable...... ;)

vesperholly

03-13-2003, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Angel01673
Why wouldn't Jamie go any where Naomi is traning? They seemed pretty friendly when they were both trianing with Shiplband.

In public, yes, they were friendly. But don't mistake public performance for private (and not-so-private) feelings.

The conflicts with Silverstein and Lang were one of the big reasons that L/T left Detroit.

Jocelyn

Marci3023

03-13-2003, 11:17 AM

I thought the problem between Jamie and Naomi was with the coaching?

I think Naomi was feeling as if she wasn't getting as much attention from Shpillband as she usually do when Jamie was skating with Justin?

Or am I thinking about another team? Belbin/Agosto?

Then again, skaters can have a warm "public" relationship but dislike one another behind scenes. It's proper sportsmanlike conduct to be cordial to your fellow competitors.

<g>

marci

leepn

03-13-2003, 11:46 AM

DancerFan-

I wouldn't be surprised about either of them showing up in Newington. I have been hearing rumors that G/P and Jamie and Daniil are both there already. Do you have any other information to share? Nikolai will definately have his hands full with R/M, G/P, L/T, S/B if these rumors are indeed true!!

icesupport

03-13-2003, 01:20 PM

Leepn,

I heard today the same, that G/P have committed to train there and S/B, following another "try-out", will be training there, this from a source at the Newington rink. Time will tell but one thing for sure: if all those teams train together, it will improve each of them as they are all very good skaters.

what?meworry?

03-13-2003, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by DancerFan
I would not be surprised IN THE LEAST if...G&P leave Chicago and relocate to Morozov...
G&P haven't been thrilled with their coaching lately...

huh???? they should kiss his feet! darn few people that watched melissa over the years ever thought she'd amount to much beyond the junior level. with epstein's coaching, she's improved incredibly over the last two seasons (and hess had nothing to do with it---they never worked with her).

in addition to melissa's significant physical makeover, her skating has improved a great deal ---after all, there's only so much you can do over a given period of time considering where she started from when she and denis got together. i thought they were doing quite well in their development as a team! nicely on track for the 2006 olympics, even.

if this is true, it would be a real pitty. they never gave epstein the full credit he deserved, listing hess equally and having her just show up at the competitions.

well, i hope it's just a rumor.
but if it's true, it'll be a zoo there. yikes! naomi and jaimie and melissa, oh my!

Angel01673

03-14-2003, 02:11 PM

what?meworry?

03-14-2003, 11:38 PM

this is the first i've ever heard or read about a conflict between peter and igor. (?????) the reasons i've always heard and read about related to work ethic of the team (the article in the detroit free press) and naomi and peter's arguments being disruptive. that of course, was a "conflict" in that igor wanted them to put in more time than they were willing to. (this is the same chatter surrounding them more recently with tarasova, too.) and, when you don't behave the way igor desires, you tend to be ignored in favor of the teams who are obedient.

Spinner

03-15-2003, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by vesperholly
The conflicts with Silverstein and Lang were one of the big reasons that L/T left Detroit.
Are you able to back up this statement with sources or facts? Please do so.

what?meworry?

03-16-2003, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by vesperholly
In public, yes, they were friendly. But don't mistake public performance for private (and not-so-private) feelings.

The conflicts with Silverstein and Lang were one of the big reasons that L/T left Detroit.

Jocelyn

i've been thinking back to the dsc of jaimie/justin etc, and i don't remember ever hearing any rumors about conflict between jaimie and naomi at all. if i'm remembering this correctly there's a big enough age difference between them so that jaimie would be pretty young and naomi an older teen.

the only issue would have been that igor was spending more time with jaimie/justin than with naomi/peter (like i said before, igor has been known to favor obedient teams to the point of almost ignoring disobedient teams).

Trillian

03-17-2003, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by what?meworry?
i've been thinking back to the dsc of jaimie/justin etc, and i don't remember ever hearing any rumors about conflict between jaimie and naomi at all.

I do, but that doesn't mean they were true. They're called "rumors" for a reason. The general gist of what I heard was that the conflicts were pretty much related to how much time they were getting from the coach, which is why the possibility of them sharing a coach again seems odd to me if the rumors were at all based in fact.

Then again, I also clearly remember how enthusiastically Naomi and Peter were cheering for Jamie and Justin at the '99 nationals--though of course things will change once people are direct competitors...

Smiley0884

03-20-2003, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by what?meworry?
this is the first i've ever heard or read about a conflict between peter and igor. (?????) the reasons i've always heard and read about related to work ethic of the team (the article in the detroit free press) and naomi and peter's arguments being disruptive. that of course, was a "conflict" in that igor wanted them to put in more time than they were willing to. (this is the same chatter surrounding them more recently with tarasova, too.) and, when you don't behave the way igor desires, you tend to be ignored in favor of the teams who are obedient.

I read that same article, and Naomi and Peter weren't asked to comment, even though Igor was. IMO there are 3 sides to every story one persos side the other persons side and the truth. I don't doubt Naomi and Peter are hard working, all you have to do is compare their nationals performance with their 4CC performance(and only 3 weeks apart), and that's enough proof for me, gossip aside. At any rate no matter what the reason for Naomi and Peter's departure from Shpilband, I'm just glad they got out of there before Naomi dissapeared, now she looks like she eats every day.

Scott

03-20-2003, 06:08 AM

Um, just a question. Is Jamie capable of continuing on with a new partner? I mean looked at what happened with Forsyth. Didn't Jamie just sort of disappear? I hope that she can make it back but who would take a chance on her?

what?meworry?

03-24-2003, 04:45 PM

that is a good point about jaimie. all i had heard about her most recent partnership was that she had stopped skating. since brandon stayed with igor i presume it wasn't him. it was a disappointment, but i didn't expect to hear she was planning to try again elsewhere. and yes, about the business of igor giving more time to s/p was the only area of "unhappiness" i had heard about but not that it turned into any really nasty behaviours between them.

about l/t at nationals, i did see the competition live and in person. b/a made an uncharacteristicly high number of errors in the freedance. if b/a had skated their usual form, they would have won easily. others who were there seemed to be of the same opinion. l/t's compulsories were fine, but the od and fd was where they seemed not up to standard.

Trillian

03-24-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by what?meworry?
that is a good point about jaimie. all i had heard about her most recent partnership was that she had stopped skating.

As had I. I was told not long ago that she was teaching yoga or something along those lines, I think, so I'm pretty surprised she's giving serious thought to returning to competition. It would be great to see her back--she's so talented--but I hope whatever she does decide, it's the choice that's healthiest for her. If she is ready to come back, she couldn't ask for a much better partner than Barantsev.