Which skater got the most 6.0s?

[Overr8ed sk8er]

Hi, I'm new and this is my first post. This one goes out to all real figure skating buffs out there. Which skaters/teams (let's say since 1980) got the most international (Euros, 4-Continents, Grand Prix events, Worlds, Olympics) 6.0's during his/her/their career? Rodnina/Zaitzew come into my mind (but this was before 1980, I guess) and of course Torvill/Dean, but also Yagudin as a single skater. Is anyone out there with exact numbers? Thanks in advance! :)

[tdnuva]

Torvill & Dean:

total 155
- British Nationals 41 (which would make international score 114)
- Richmond comp (international - but there was no grand prix scheme at that time) 4 (which would make top intern comps 110)

- Europeans 33
- Worlds 55
- Olympics 22

btw - I've never added those last sums before, just coincidence :lol:


There is a ranking for 6.0s at worlds at USFSA:

http://www.usfsa.org/worlds01/history/6-0.html

[adrianchew]

If only I was around to have seen Torvill & Dean in their prime years. :(

[Germanice]

Torvill & Dean ..... just WOW!!!!!! 8O

Have to add 19 international 6.0s for Alexei Yagudin since 1999. I really thought it's much, but after reading T & D's numbers ..... But still, not too bad for a single skater, I think ...... anyone more? :?:

Anke


P.S.: The list above about 6.0s at Worlds isn't complete, at least not to me. They forgot to add one technical 6.0 for Alexei's LP at the Worlds 1999!

[Alexeiskate]

Originally posted by adrianchew
If only I was around to have seen Torvill & Dean in their prime years. :(



Were you born after 1984, or you weren't interested in skating during that time ?

[adrianchew]

Originally posted by Alexeiskate

Were you born after 1984, or you weren't interested in skating during that time ?

I was born before that, but in a land without any winter sports, any winter, any half decent coverage of winter sports on TV. I could take in as much soccer as I wanted though.

[Marie]

The Bolero program IMO was the absolute most mesmerizing program I have ever seen.

I do wonder if part of it is that we had never seen anything like it before in skating. It is still a treasure to watch though.

[tdnuva]

Here's another list of sixes, though also not complete:

http://home.earthlink.net/~louis17/sixzero.html

[Overr8ed sk8er]

Thanx to you all for the information .... the lists are very interesting at least, even though not complete. :) Pairs / Ladies anyone?

[icenut84]

adrianchew - I wasn't around to see Torvill & Dean in their prime years either (I was born in 1984), but they're my favourite ever skaters. You can still see their routines - they released a number of videos that are still available (try amazon or ebay, maybe?). They are:

"Torvill & Dean with the Russian All Stars" - video of the world tour with Tatiana Tarasova's skating company in the late 80s. T&D routines - Bolero, Snow Maiden, Missing, Fred & Ginger.

"Path to Perfection" - a kind of documentary video first released in 84, I think. Routines - part of 80 free dance, Summertime (82 OD - John Curry said at the time it was the most beautiful thing he had ever seen), Mack and Mabel (82 FD), Barnum (83 FD), Cappricio Espagnol (Paso Doble, 84 OD), Bolero (84 FD). Some versions were released that also included their programs from 94 British Nationals and Fire and Ice, but were later withdrawn because they were done without permission.

"Face The Music: The Tour" - video of their 94-95 world tour. T&D routines - Barnum/Mack and Mabel/Paso Doble medley, History of Love (Rhumba, 94 OD), Let's Face The Music and Dance (94 FD), Encounter, Hat Trick, In Trutina, Bolero.

"The Story So Far" - my personal favourite, and has the most routines on. Includes footage of them skating in the early days (including Jayne skating pairs with her first partner), parts of 78, 80 and 81 FDs, Summertime, Mack and Mabel, Barnum, Paso Doble, Bolero, History of Love, Let's Face The Music and Dance. Also includes gazillions of pro programmes, including Song of India, Encounter, Missing (the original, pre the Duchesnay's version), Hat Trick, Diablo Tango, Fred & Ginger, Stormy Weather, Oscar Tango (first 1 1/2 mins in silence), and lots more. Narrated by Chris and Jayne themselves, includes descriptions of their careers and explanations of the routines etc.

"Fire and Ice" - TV special they made in about 86 for Christmas. Romeo and Juliet type story, Chris as the Fire Prince (includes dancing on a floor in little more than a thong!), Jayne as the Ice Princess.

"Ice Adventures" - final world tour, 97-98. Doesn't include any of their old routines, only one that had been seen before was Take 5. Whole show was made up of 4 main sections - Winter Express, (one based under the sea but I've gone blank on the title of it - includes an amazing "flying fish" routine), Winter Games and New Year's Eve. Fantastic. Very different to most ice shows - the routines are a lot more integrated together than just the come on-go off show you usually get.

Hope that helps! You shouldn't have to miss out on the greatest ice dancers ever because you weren't watching in the 80s. :mrgreen:

[adrianchew]

Actually - I might have seen Bolero on a video from a friend which I rewatched a few months back. Gotta go dig it up!

[loveskating]

Torvil and Dean were just incredible artists...they were great skaters, but their skating was informed with absolutely the most profound understanding of and interpretation of the music (all sorts)....and for me, Bolero is the greatest of them all. Gawd, I thought I would die of delight when I first saw that program...a miracle!

The only ice dance program that compares with Bolero to me is Klimova & Pommanarenko's Romeo and Juliet...again, its the great skating but its also the best expression of this music by ice dancers that I've seen.

Unfortunately, the ice dance rules don't really allow for such things as the awesome creativity we saw in Bolero any more, which is probably why I cried when I saw Lang & Tchernachev's Carmen -- because somehow, they managed under these rules to fully express that music on the ice.

[duane]

is "Bolero" the rhumba that t&d performed (i think for the original dance) at the 94 Olympics?

[Aussie Willy]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think to this day T&D are the only skaters who ever received 6.0 for compulsory dances at world or Olympic level. They did the best rhumba I have ever seen.

Or did Usova/Zhulin get 6.0 for their compulsories at 91 Worlds?

[karina1974]

Originally posted by duane
is "Bolero" the rhumba that t&d performed (i think for the original dance) at the 94 Olympics?

Definitely not. Their OD music was "La Historia de un Amor", although their arrangement took out everything (aside from lyrics, which were forbidden until until the 1997-8 season) that makes that song Spanish. That song was not written for large-band arrangements. Ironically, "Historia" is actually a bolero, not a son carabali (the correct term for rhumba), so you weren't competely mistaken.

"Bolero" was the program that they performed for the Oly exhibitions. I thought it was a quite fitting way to show, after all, who REALLY was the top dance team in Lillehammer. Interesting how Jayne had her hair cut in the same style for that Olympics as she wore back in 1984. Except for the electronic-ized arrangement for the music, you'd think you had stepped back in time.

[icenut84]

Originally posted by duane
is "Bolero" the rhumba that t&d performed (i think for the original dance) at the 94 Olympics?

Nooo... Bolero was their free dance from the 84 season, which they performed in the exhibition gala of the 94 Olympics. The most famous skating routine ever, period. Here's a pic:

http://www.jhalle.demon.co.uk/banner4.jpg

The rhumba original dance from 94 Olympics was called "La Historia de un Amor", or History of Love (English translation).

Originally posted by karina1974
"Bolero" was the program that they performed for the Oly exhibitions. I thought it was a quite fitting way to show, after all, who REALLY was the top dance team in Lillehammer. Interesting how Jayne had her hair cut in the same style for that Olympics as she wore back in 1984. Except for the electronic-ized arrangement for the music, you'd think you had stepped back in time.

You're right. She had slightly longer hair (enough for a ponytail) in British Nationals and Europeans, but had it chopped off before the Olympics. I don't know about the music though, I thought it was exactly the same as in 84. ?

[Aussie Willy]

I know that music T&D used for their 94 OD Rhumba they had used it previously in 84 for an exhibition when they toured Australia because I have it on video.

As for the hair in 94 being shorter, basically they were trying to work out what to do with it and she decided just to cut it short. It is mentioned in their autobiography. It was not really a concious decision or reliving old times - it just happened that way.