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Miss.Issippi
10-17-2002, 09:48 AM
I can't find any news on results. Didn't it start yesterday? :?:
haribobo
10-17-2002, 10:08 AM
It did start yesterday with the Compulsory Dance, but the results aren't posted anywhere as far as I know. A poster Daphne on FSU is reporting that Humphreys/Baranov are 1st after the CDs, with Nussear/Gates in 2nd. No other results yet. :??
Trillian
10-17-2002, 10:37 AM
Wow, I hope that report is true--how great for Nussear & Gates if it is! :)
Impromptu
10-17-2002, 10:44 AM
Since Daphne on FSU is the Daphne from ice-dance.com, which does the Nussear and Gates website, I would consider her a reliable source.
Yay for Emilie and Mat!
DancerFan
10-17-2002, 11:09 AM
:D Way to go, Emilie and Mat!! Can Daphne post all the results?? I'd love to know who else was there!
Sylvia
10-17-2002, 11:33 AM
I'm sure that Daphne will post all the results she receives, and if she had complete CD results she would have posted them already! ;)
The Karl Shaefer Memorial competition website, with the preliminary entries in dance, ladies and men, is at
http://www.engelmann.co.at/ksm/2002/index.html
but no official results have been posted there yet (not sure if they will be?).
Dance entries:
1 CAN DOHERTY Tara MYLES Tyler
2 CAN LONGPRE Judith ZUKINSKY Shea
3 GRB TOWLER-GREEN Phillipa BURGERMANN Robert
4 GRB HUMPHREY Marika BARANOV Vitaliy
5 ISR GUDINA Nathalia BELETSKY Alexei
6 POL DULEJ Agnieska JANICKI Stanomir
7 UKR BEKNAZEROVA Alla KOCHERZHENKO Yury
8 USA MOXLEY Christle KIRSANOV Alexander [I heard they are not in Vienna because he couldn't get a visa in time (or something like that)]
9 USA NUSSEAR Emilie GATES Mathew
Ladies Results were just posted:
1 Miriam MANZANO AUS 0.5 (this would be a huge win for her)
2 Galina MANIACHENKO UKR 1.0 (I expected her to be in the top 3)
3 Sabina WOJTALA POL 1.5
4 Susanne STADLMÜLLER GER 2.0
5 Kelsey DREWEL USA 2.5 (great start!)
6 Idora HEGEL CRO 3.0
7 Amber CZISNY USA 3.5
8 Nicole WATT CAN 4.0
9 Irina LUKJANENKO UKR 4.5
10 Anna JURKIEWICZ POL 5.0
11 Mojca KOPAC SLO 5.5
12 Tamara DOROFEJEV HUN 6.0 (ouch, sad to see this)
13 Lucia STAROVICOVA SVK 6.5
14 Julia LAUTOVA AUT 7.0
15 Lucie KRAUSOVA CZE 7.5
16 Jubilee-Jenna MANDL AUT 8.0
17 Anni LUFTENSTEINER AUT 8.5
18 Jessica SÖDERLIND
Jen
Amy L
10-17-2002, 01:23 PM
Dance CD results are here
http://www.engelmann.co.at/ksm/2002/icedancing1.pdf
1. Humphreys/Baranov GBR
2. Nussear/Gates USA
3. Gudina/Beletsky ISR
4. Longpre/Zukinsky CAN
5. Towler-Green/Burgerman GBR
6. Doherty/Myles CAN
legjumper
10-17-2002, 02:41 PM
Great start for Nussear/Gates! Does anyone know which CD was skated?
Louis
10-17-2002, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by legjumper
Great start for Nussear/Gates! Does anyone know which CD was skated?
Midnight Blues.
1 Miriam MANZANO AUS 0.5 (this would be a huge win for her)
You sound surprised.-she is the Australian national champion and came 16th in the Worlds where I was told she did not skate her best. It's good to see the Aussie girls having some success.
More results...dance standings stayed the same after the OD.
Men's SP:
1 Stanislav TIMCHENKO RUS 0.5
2 Trifun ZIVANOVIC YUG 1.0
3 Frederic DAMBIER FRA 1.5
4 Silvio SMALUN GER 2.0
5 Ryan BRADLEY USA 2.5
6 Juraj SVIATKO SVK 3.0
7 Hristo TURLAKOV BUL 3.5
8 Hugh YIK CAN 4.0
9 Konstantin TUPIKOV UKR 4.5
10 Rohene WARD USA 5.0
11 Maciej KUS POL 5.5
12 Michail MATLOCH CZE 6.0
13 Tomas VERNER CZE 6.5
14 Ulf BÖCKELER GER 7.0
15 Stuart BECKINGHAM AUS 7.5
16 Jan CEJVAN SLO 8.0
17 Krzysztof KOMOSA POL 8.5
JPCON
10-17-2002, 05:39 PM
Nussear & Gates holding 2nd place after OD - FD is their strongest - come Saturday - go get 'em Em & Mat!
JCom
Sylvia
10-17-2002, 09:37 PM
A report on some of Thursday's highlights (ladies SP and men's practice) is now posted on the Skatefans mailing list (many thanks to Karin in Vienna!):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/100851
Jaana
10-18-2002, 11:25 AM
Trifun on the second place! I hope that also his FS will be successful.
Marjaana
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LADIES
Final Results
Name Nation TFP SP FS
1 Galina MANIACHENKO UKR 2.0 2 1
2 Miriam MANZANO AUS 2.5 1 2
3 Sabina WOJTALA POL 4.5 3 3
4 Idora HEGEL CRO 7.0 6 4
5 Susanne STADLMÜLLER GER 7.0 4 5
6 Amber CZISNY USA 9.5 7 6
7 Kelsey DREWEL USA 9.5 5 7
8 Mojca KOPAC SLO 13.5 11 8
9 Anna JURKIEWICZ POL 15.0 10 10
10 Nicole WATT CAN 15.0 8 11
11 Lucie KRAUSOVA CZE 16.5 15 9
12 Irina LUKJANENKO UKR 18.5 9 14
13 Julia LAUTOVA AUT 19.0 14 12
14 Tamara DOROFEJEV HUN 19.0 12 13
15 Lucia STAROVICOVA SVK 23.5 13 17
16 Jessica SÖDERLIND SWE 24.0 18 15
17 Jubilee-Jenna MANDL AUT 24.0 16 16
18 Anni LUFTENSTEINER AUT 26.5 17 18
haribobo
10-18-2002, 04:42 PM
MEN FINAL RESULTS are up on the site!
GOLD: TIMCHENKO
SILVER: DAMBIER
BRONZE: ZIVANOVIC
Ryan Bradley gets 4th overall, but was 3rd in the free. I have a feeling he hit a triple axel-- quite a triumph to defeat a former U.S. silver medalist, if only in the freeskate...I hope this is enough to convince the USFSA to give him a spot on the Grand Prix, and possibly a bye through sectionals along with it. Congrats Ryan! :) WHEEE!
Rohene finishes 8th btw, though we know he is capable of better, this is not so bad considering he barely has any international experience. Hopefully he can build on this for the future. You've gotta start somewhere, and this isn't a bad start.
La Rhumba
10-18-2002, 06:42 PM
:D All the best for the freedance tomorrow!!!!!!:D
Will be cheering you all the way!!
Miss.Issippi
10-19-2002, 01:05 AM
I've seen Nussear/Gates freedance. This should be really good.
Good luck Emilie and Mathew !! :P
anital
10-19-2002, 04:57 AM
CONGRATULATIONS MIRIAM!!!!!! A TRUE AUSSIE CHAMPION!!!!!
Second place is brilliant! :)
Aussie Willy
10-19-2002, 05:18 AM
Yeah for Miriam too. Excellent result.
Good to see Maniachenko up there too. IIRC I thought she should have gotten at least third at the Europeans Splat fest this year too so great to see her with a good result.
copythat
10-19-2002, 06:19 AM
Nice start for Nussear/Gates. I was also lucky enough to see their FD about three weeks ago -- very nice, fast, expressive, WITH lots of two-foot skating. I hope they don't fall into that Tarasova mindset of speed, speed speed and forget the dancing part. Also, with Matt being so short, their twizzels were nice but he had no leverage and they really didn't have much face-to-face skating. But then, I'm sure their coaches no better than me!!!! Overall, I'd say fifth at Nationals.
As for Vienna Cup, I'm just getting back into world level competitor names but this appears to be a very weak field. While I do hope they do well, I wouldn't place a lot of stock in a win although it will be a great confidence boost.
As a former novice ice dancer, by comparison, if you want my view since I see Gibbons/Pekarek three times a week in Maryland (my daughter is in basic skills at their training rink), Gib/Pek's FD, a tango, is as fast, is more difficult with hand holds, has more flow (which is a choreography issue) and has a much more expressive look and feel. Nussear/Gates is raw speed and they are fast!! However, given the OD pressure to be more "ballroom" like, and expressive, I would vote for Gib/Pek. Justin is such a great dancer and I am really impressed with how Liz and Genrikh have molded Hillary. She's the real deal and this couple will impress many at Nationals. In fact, IMO, they will be fourth and could well take third.
Sylvia
10-20-2002, 02:04 AM
Here's a link to the men's FS report, written by Karen in Vienna:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/100972
Man, having read the reviews of the ladies FS, I am concerned about Amber Czisny. I hope this injury isn't going to plague her right up to the end of her skating career. :( Hopefully this wasn't something that was too bad.
I am glad to hear that Kelsey is her usual powerful self, even if the program just wasn't there that day!
Sylvia
10-20-2002, 08:57 PM
Here's the link to the ladies' FS report (another detailed installment by Karin in Vienna) that KBW is referring to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/101001
Whoops I got so spoiled by being used to your posting of the review link here that I jumped the gun and assumed you'd already done it! :oops: I guess my post didn't make sense. Thank you for getting these reviews to us and spreading them around for discussion! :)
Sylvia
10-21-2002, 01:16 AM
You're welcome, KBW, but we should all thank Karin in Vienna for being our sole Internet reporter on the competition (so far, anyway). Here's the link to Karin's final (brief) free dance and exhibition report:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/101007
Miss.Issippi
10-21-2002, 11:39 AM
Yes - definately a big thank you to Karin. Thanks for the links and the results, and the review of the exhibition. :D
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