Cutting Edge: Fire and Ice - ABC Family - 3/14/2010 8pm

[Isk8NYC]

Cutting Edge: Fire and Ice - ABC Family - 3/14/2010 8pm
(aka: Cutting Edge 4)


From ABC Family's press release:

http://www.abcfamilymedianet.com/docs/2010/01/FallingInLove_Premiere_011210.pdf

In "The Cutting Edge: Fire & Ice," Francia Raisa reprises her role as Alexandra “Alex” Delgado in the film franchise, whose figure skating career came to an abrupt halt after her partner (on and off the ice) became injured. As their love affair cooled, a heart-broken Alex stopped competing and turned to teaching. Enter James Van Behr (Fehr), the smoldering bad boy of speed skating, who has had fiery Alex in his sights as a skating partner ever since he was banned from speed skating. There aren’t many girls who say no to James – Alex may well be the first.

However, James pushes her buttons, challenging her like no one else – and her fighting spirit returns. She agrees to be his partner and they begin a grueling practice regimen fueled (and occasionally derailed) by their own tempestuous relationship which heats up as they get closer to competition. But will their passion destroy Alex’s chance to bring home the gold again?

“The Cutting Edge: Fire & Ice” marks the fourth installment of the successful franchise produced by MGM Television. The movie is directed by Stephen Herek and is written by Holly Brix. It is executive-produced by the MGM team of Craig Roessler, Sara Berrisford and Hudson Hickman.

Figure and speed skating together? How bizarre.

[wasamb]

Figure and speed skating together? How bizarre.

Thanks! I guess they didn't want to use the hockey player story again.

[sk8ryellow]

haha lol I love the cutting edge movies!

[Isk8NYC]

Thanks! I guess they didn't want to use the hockey player story again.
I don't think I ever saw the third movie, even though I like Kristy Carlson-Romano (aka: Kim Possible, Even Stevens/Big Sis)
The reviews I read today were all bad. The premise was a rollerblader turning into a phenomenal ice skating pairs partner.

[FSWer]

Cutting Edge: Fire and Ice - ABC Family - 3/14/2010 8pm
(aka: Cutting Edge 4)


From ABC Family's press release:

http://www.abcfamilymedianet.com/docs/2010/01/FallingInLove_Premiere_011210.pdf



Figure and speed skating together? How bizarre.

Funny. When did they make part 4? I thought part 3 was just coming out this year.Did I miss something? Who else is in it? BTW. it's the only movie I know that doesn't take up were the last one left off.

[Isk8NYC]

Funny. When did they make part 4?
This year - that's why I started this thread.


I thought part 3 was just coming out this year. Did I miss something?
"The Cutting Edge 3: Chasing the Dream" came out in 2008. The reviewers didn't like it, but it is available on DVD.

Who else is in it?
#3: www.imdb.com/title/tt1110626 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1110626)
#4: http://www.abcfamilymedianet.com/docs/2010/01/FallingInLove_Premiere_011210.pdf

[FSWer]

Are they using the same cast format? Is Jackie Dorsy in it? BTW. does anyone have a link to what was said about 3? What is the exact title of 4?

[Isk8NYC]

This movie premieres next Sunday, 3/14/2010. As reported up above, it's on ABC Family at 8pm Eastern.

Anyone know who the skating doubles were?

[FSWer]

Can anyone post the time and chanel. Daylight Savings Time on EST.? As that's when we Spring ahead as a reminder.

[FSWer]

Does anyone know were,and if you can get it on DVD.? Thanks.

[let`s talk]

I don`t think it is available on DVD now. Not yet.

Download?

[FSWer]

I don`t think it is available on DVD now. Not yet.

Download?

Ok. Could someone please post when it does come out? Thanks.

[Isk8NYC]

Did anyone watch this new movie? Was it any good?

[FSWer]

I saw some of it. As I bopped between the news. But I could tell it was good.

[icedancer2]

I didn't see it - but I just looked at the original posting for this thread and notice that the person who wrote this movie is someone who approached me at one of our rinks (the one in the mall) - her name is Holly Brix.

She came up to me one day and asked if she could interview me about skating (since I am a judge and a skater I guess) - because she knew nothing about skating and was doing some research.

Well, we never got together but I'm sure that if we did this would have been a MUCH better movie, LOL:lol:.

One of the skaters from our area also noticed that it was filmed at the Olympic View arena in Seattle so there definitely was a Pacific NW connection!

[Query]

I enjoyed all 4 movies.

Like any sequel - we know to some extant what to expect. The skaters have pretty unstable love lives. Apparently it is much easier to win Olympic medals than to stay in love. Maybe "happily ever after" doesn't make good movies?

ABC Family has been showing all 4 movies. You can search at places like http://tvguide.com or http://tv.yahoo.com to see whether they will show again, or hopefully at places like http://www.hulu.com to see them over the Internet 8 days later. Sorry, but those of us who live in countries like the U.S. with strong copyright laws can't safely send you our copies of the broadcasts.

There is a new skating trick in the 4th movie, but I can't say it looks that much more impressive than what the top pairs skaters are already doing. The cameras zoom out on fancy skating tricks - maybe so we can't tell they are using skating doubles, or animation. There are a couple places I would have liked to have an HDTV to see details.

New tricks earn enough points to maybe decide competitions. I still don't understand the point system, but would the new aspects be uncaptured moves that don't earn points?

In all 4 movies, a skater makes progress a bit faster than some of us find completely credible. But hey, it's just a movie, and many of the viewers are skaters or one time skaters who have dreams like that.

It was interesting that in one of the earlier movies a good skater becomes an official coach at USFSA and ISU competitions in two months. Could anyone get past the bureaucratic requirements that fast, no matter how good?

I was a little annoyed at the scenes from the earlier movies the TV network cut. Like the entertaining shots in the first movie, of the early unsuccessful attempts of a new trick, that explained better why it was dangerous.

One last comment. Why don't skaters learning really dangerous new moves wear protective clothing?

[Skittl1321]

Why don't skaters learning really dangerous new moves wear protective clothing?

In the first movie doesn't she wear a helmet during the early stages of the Pamchenko?

I know I've seen pairs skaters wearing helmets while first learning headbangers... and I've certainly seen pads on skaters learning a new double or triple.

[Kat12]

In the first movie doesn't she wear a helmet during the early stages of the Pamchenko?
I don't think so...because I think I remember, during the first time I ever watched it, my mom kept saying "why doesn't she wear a helmet?" every time it shows her falling in a nasty and painful-looking way.

In all 4 movies, a skater makes progress a bit faster than some of us find completely credible. But hey, it's just a movie, and many of the viewers are skaters or one time skaters who have dreams like that.
LOL, that's because it's not entertaining to watch someone stumble all over the place like I do. Oh, okay, it's sorta mildly entertaining, but you know what I mean. :) Also, otherwise the movies would be hella long, lol. I guess that's why they always have a person transitioning from one kind of skating to figure, though--it'd be WAY too unbelievable that someone who'd never been on the ice before gets good quickly, but more believable if they're already familiar with skating in some form?

I dunno. I've seen the first one. I knew there was a second. I hadn't a clue there were four...I thought this one was just a re-airing of the second one, to tell you the truth. Now i'm gonna have to go look up all four to see what they're about, I suppose.

[FSWer]

I didn't see it - but I just looked at the original posting for this thread and notice that the person who wrote this movie is someone who approached me at one of our rinks (the one in the mall) - her name is Holly Brix.

She came up to me one day and asked if she could interview me about skating (since I am a judge and a skater I guess) - because she knew nothing about skating and was doing some research.

Well, we never got together but I'm sure that if we did this would have been a MUCH better movie, LOL:lol:.

One of the skaters from our area also noticed that it was filmed at the Olympic View arena in Seattle so there definitely was a Pacific NW connection!

COOL!!!! I'm surprised she didn't contact you to be casted as an Extra!!!

[Skate@Delaware]

It never explained (or maybe I missed it) why a speed skater really wanted to skate pairs. I didn't get that part. But I liked it and flipped between them and Ice Castles, which was airing at the same time (and was shown repeatedly).

[Skittl1321]

It never explained (or maybe I missed it) why a speed skater really wanted to skate pairs. I didn't get that part. But I liked it and flipped between them and Ice Castles, which was airing at the same time (and was shown repeatedly).

It was a "publicity stunt". To keep him in the news.


I liked this one okay actually. The "big move" was no big deal at all though- it looked like a dance lift followed by a throw jump. Her "falling on the big move" montage, was just a bunch of throw jump falls- every pairs skater does that a million times. Nothing like the pamchenko.

[icedancer2]

COOL!!!! I'm surprised she didn't contact you to be casted as an Extra!!!

:lol: Yes - that is true!! I should have been cast...

Oh well, fame will come to me at another time I guess...:roll:

[Query]

What a shame they don't cast a semi-retired real skater in the lead part for skating movies. Sasha Cohen?

What could Tanya Harding play?

[AgnesNitt]

So they've done hockey player/figure skater, now it's speed skater/figureskater. What's left? Ice dancer transitioning to pairs and has a horror of lifting the woman over his head? Or has a trick shoulder? Or has an irrational fear of women in long skirts? Or his edges suck and he has to learn rockers and counters? (no that last one doesn't make any sense unless he's a pair skater transitioning to dance)

[icedancer2]

Someone over at one of the icedancer boards thought it would good to have a speedskater turned ice-dancer (rather than pairs) - thinking Apolo Ohno would be good - I mean, he could take his stuff from Dancing With the Stars and apply it to ice-dance - it would be awesome!!!

But of course people love the "big tricks" of the Pairs skaters which is why I think those movies have been somewhat successful (Blades of Glory, anyone?)

[FSWer]

What a shame they don't cast a semi-retired real skater in the lead part for skating movies. Sasha Cohen?

What could Tanya Harding play?

I didn't catch it. But who WAS the skater in he movie?

[Query]

So they've done hockey player/figure skater, now it's speed skater/figureskater.

They've also done the inline/ice skater transition. Other people's movies did the transition from male hockey star to female figure skater (with divine help), and yet another from figure skater to hockey star.

One thing that's left is the transition from freestyle skiing, or ballet skiing to figure skater. Low level skating and low level whitewater boating certainly helped me learn low level ski tricks like ski skating uphill, skiing backwards, and spinning on skis.

We've all met ballerinas and other dancers who made the transition to skating very quickly. Like the Canadian National Ballet gal I've mentioned here before, who I saw practicing triple axels, after skating only 10 months, at a time when that was the most difficult jump any competitive skating ladies were doing. Seeing her made these kind of movies slightly more believable to me.

Any high level athlete in doing things that involves a lot of strength and coordination and balance would have a big advantage over the average adult skating beginner. Throw in skating doubles, a little movie magic, and voila! instant Olympic gold medalist.

But like I said, it's starting to get a bit predictable.

[FSWer]

They've also done the inline/ice skater transition. Other people's movies did the transition from male hockey star to female figure skater (with divine help), and yet another from figure skater to hockey star.

One thing that's left is the transition from freestyle skiing, or ballet skiing to figure skater. Low level skating and low level whitewater boating certainly helped me learn low level ski tricks like ski skating uphill, skiing backwards, and spinning on skis.

We've all met ballerinas and other dancers who made the transition to skating very quickly. Like the Canadian National Ballet gal I've mentioned here before, who I saw practicing triple axels, after skating only 10 months, at a time when that was the most difficult jump any competitive skating ladies were doing. Seeing her made these kind of movies slightly more believable to me.

Any high level athlete in doing things that involves a lot of strength and coordination and balance would have a big advantage over the average adult skating beginner. Throw in skating doubles, a little movie magic, and voila! instant Olympic gold medalist.

But like I said, it's starting to get a bit predictable.

So we've done Hockey to Pairs,Freesyle to Pairs (don't forget the Dorsey kid),and Ice-Dancers. NOW...I wonder if they can do the only one left. A Synchronized Skater. LOL.

[Query]

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