2009 Trophee' Bompard (ISU GP-France)

[Isk8NYC]

MEN - AFTER SHORT PROGRAM:

FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Tomas VERNER CZE 81 1
2 Nobunari ODA JPN 79.2 2
3 Adam RIPPON USA 75.82 3
4 Sergei VORONOV RUS 72.8 4
5 Yannick PONSERO FRA 72.5 5
6 Brian JOUBERT FRA 72.15 6
7 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 66.49 7
8 Ryan BRADLEY USA 65.21 8
9 Chao YANG CHN 60.72 9
10 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 60.56 10
11 Peter LIEBERS GER 60.31 11
12 Vaughn CHIPEUR CAN 51.45 12

[Isk8NYC]

PAIRS - AFTER SHORT PROGRAM:

FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY GER 72.98 1
2 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV RUS 66.88 2
3 Jessica DUBE / Bryce DAVISON CAN 64.54 3
4 Adeline CANAC / Maximin COIA FRA 55.96 4
5 Rena INOUE / John BALDWIN USA 55.06 5
6 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN 49.7 6
7 Marissa CASTELLI / Simon SHNAPIR USA 49.5 7
8 Vanessa JAMES / Yannick BONHEUR FRA 38.96 8

[Isk8NYC]

ICE DANCE - AFTER COMPULSORY DANCE

FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 38.41 1
2 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 36.13 2
3 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 35.53 3
4 Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA 31.11 4
5 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS 29.56 5
6 Kimberly NAVARRO / Brent BOMMENTRE USA 29.19 6
7 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA 27.17 7
8 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 27.12 8
9 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES FRA 26.28 9
10 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA 24.08 10

[luckykid]

I saw on the news that Mao missed her triple axel for the triple axel-double toeloop combo.. She's been missing it lately. Yuna must have been great, winning by nearly 17 points ahead of Yukari.

[sk8ergalgal]

ICE DANCE RESULTS AFTER ORIGINAL DANCE
1 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR CAN 100.32 1 1
2 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA 91.87 3 2
3 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 90.86 2 3
4 Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA 77.66 4 6
5 Kimberly NAVARRO / Brent BOMMENTRE USA 77.36 6 4
6 Kristina GORSHKOVA / Vitali BUTIKOV RUS 75.14 5 7
7 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 74.24 8 5
8 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES FRA 71.46 9 8
9 Madison HUBBELL / Keiffer HUBBELL USA 70.24 7 10
10 Zoe BLANC / Pierre-Loup BOUQUET FRA 68.32 10 9

Also you can watch Yu-na Kim's short program on youtube just search isu grand prix 2009. Cant wait to see more skating tomorrow!!

[Nicki]

Thanks guys, for posting all of those results! Its so great to have skating starting up again.

[luckykid]

Men results after free skate
FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS
1 Nobunari ODA JPN 242.53 2 1
2 Tomas VERNER CZE 229.96 1 2
3 Adam RIPPON USA 219.96 3 3
4 Brian JOUBERT FRA 207.39 6 4
5 Yannick PONSERO FRA 205.74 5 5
6 Sergei VORONOV RUS 204.45 4 6
7 Alban PREAUBERT FRA 189.63 7 7
8 Chao YANG CHN 178.63 9 8
9 Ryan BRADLEY USA 177.65 8 10
10 Peter LIEBERS GER 176.52 11 9
11 Javier FERNANDEZ ESP 170.16 10 11
12 Vaughn CHIPEUR CAN 155.43 12 12

Pairs results after free skate
1 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV RUS 192.93 2 1
2 Jessica DUBE / Bryce DAVISON CAN 180.97 3 2
3 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY GER 174.42 1 4
4 Rena INOUE / John BALDWIN USA 158.36 5 3
5 Adeline CANAC / Maximin COIA FRA 150.18 4 6
6 Huibo DONG / Yiming WU CHN 144.45 6 5
7 Marissa CASTELLI / Simon SHNAPIR USA 133.01 7 7
8 Vanessa JAMES / Yannick BONHEUR FRA 118.66 8 8

Hmm the 2nd placed skater in SP raise to 1st after FS in both men and pairs.. wonder if the same will happen with the ladies and ice dance, but unlikely for ladies I think.

[Schmeck]

I saw on the news that Mao missed her triple axel for the triple axel-double toeloop combo.. She's been missing it lately. Yuna must have been great, winning by nearly 17 points ahead of Yukari.

Besides the jumps, I was not impressed with Yu Na Kim, nor the inflated GOEs some judges gave her for a wobbly spiral and nasty layback position. I guess they want to give her the Oly gold now? She's the annointed one? How discouraging.

Zhang got whacked on almost every element - some deserved, some not. Wow, the tech specialist and judges really pick at her, don't they!

Cohen was lucky to have missed this one, she'd probably have been in the 4-7 position (with her typical one fall/lost element per competition) and the judges wouldn't have been impressed with her return. She has the same jump and spin technique as Zhang - she'd lose points on the flutz and flip.

[AgnesNitt]

I see the Kerr's are bravely clinging to third.


They deserve to be so much higher. Their imagination and costuming appeals to me.

[luckykid]

Yeah I realize the exceedingly high GOE that judges give her. If she goes on like this, Olympic is surely hers.

I haven't watched the programs of many skaters. Only seen Yuna, Mao and Carolina's SP.

[Mel On Ice]

are you officially kidding me?! our local NBC station is showing the swivel sweeper infomercial instead of skating!

bonus is seeing Sheila E playing playing drums on PBS while I anxiously channel surf.

[Schmeck]

I'm a sucker - I bought another year of icenetwork! I want to be able to watch synchro and regionals/sectionals etc.

[jazzpants]

Watching the mens FS:

YAAAAAY, Adam!!! So happy for him!!! VERY WELL DESERVED!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

Awwww for Ryan Bradley and Brian Joubert!!! :(

[doubletoe]

Besides the jumps, I was not impressed with Yu Na Kim, nor the inflated GOEs some judges gave her for a wobbly spiral and nasty layback position. I guess they want to give her the Oly gold now? She's the annointed one? How discouraging.

Zhang got whacked on almost every element - some deserved, some not. Wow, the tech specialist and judges really pick at her, don't they!

Cohen was lucky to have missed this one, she'd probably have been in the 4-7 position (with her typical one fall/lost element per competition) and the judges wouldn't have been impressed with her return. She has the same jump and spin technique as Zhang - she'd lose points on the flutz and flip.

Schmeck, you will understand YuNa's scores better if your read the ISU guidelines for GOE's, which you will find here:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Content/2009-10%20Establishing%20GOE%20in%20Singles%20Short%20P rogram%20and%20Free%20Skate%20(Includes%20Positive %20Aspects).pdf

The reason YuNa's GOE's were so high is because she and her coach studied these guidelines carefully and worked on doing all of those things that get +GOE's and avoiding everything that gets -GOE's (such as wrong edges on lutz and flip entries). Every one of her jumps took off from the correct edge and was landed cleanly with total control, good outflow, and usually an expressive movement on the landing edge that highlighted her control. All of those things add +GOE.

There is no specification in the GOE guidelines for free leg position on the layback spin, so there should be no -GOE for having it held low instead of lifted and turned out. Also, speeding up the layback spin partway through the spin adds a level of difficulty, and the free leg must be lowered in order to do this.

I didn't notice any wobbling on her spirals. I thought they looked like they had good speed, flow and control. Sure, her positions aren't quite as impressive as Caroline's or Sasha's, but the edge quality is more important for GOE's.

Caroline Zhang has some fantastic qualities, but she doesn't skate as fast as most of the other ladies, she slows down to a crawl before every double axel takeoff, and her jumps are often a little underrotated. It isn't easy to see with an untrained eye, but on her last two triples, she completed the last 1/4 turn or more on the toepick, not in the air. She is not a powerful skater so she does not get a lot of height on her jumps, making it a little hard to completely rotate them sometimes. She was not "picked on" specifically. Mao Asada also got a few jumps downgraded for underrotations, as did some of the other skaters.

[Artemis]

I think it was odd that Yu Na got record-breaking points for her LP when she omitted one entire jumping pass ... but I don't think her elements scores were really that over-inflated. I agree with double-toe's assessment -- based on the rules, Yu Na's scores are easier to understand. Now if Mao had stepped up her game and delivered what she's capable of, we might have had a battle on our hands, but on the night Yu Na was the clear winner.

I really enjoyed young Adam Rippon, I look forward to seeing more of him in the future. He has a ways to go technically, but it was nice to see a fresh face giving a real performance (esp. compared to Joubert's stroke-stroke-jump approach -- snore!).

But the real highlight for me was Oda's Charlie Chapline LP. What a superb vehicle for him, and what a change from previous years.

Oh, and Tessa & Scott's Mahler free dance was simply mesmerizing. I applauded their effort last to do something different, but their strength is their fluidity, so going with a program like this is a wise choice for an Olympic year.