2 Japanese ladies land triple axel in competition?

[mikey]

Did anyone else see this report posted on RSSIF??? Interesting, if confirmed...


In one of Japanses regionals(Chubu),
two ladies skaters landed triple axel in competiton.

Oct 5, Mao ASADA landed in Novice A FS. Her age is 12.
Oct 6, Yukari NAKANO landed in Senior FS. Her age is 17.

They are coached by Machiko Yamada who also coachs
Midori ITO and Yoshie ONDA.

Their Jump height is low.
Their body type isn't like Midori/Tonya's.

It looks only high speed rotation gives one more revolution to merely 2A.

miki_tan

[adrianchew]

Previous post edited. Please don't post others email addresses when quoting from elsewhere. Thanks. ~adrianchew~

I've read reports yes of some Japanese women landing the 3-axels.

[duane]

i hadnt heard of this. if true, one would think that it would gain more attention, considering that the last 3axel landed in eligible competition by a female was in 92. :(

[Louis]

Originally posted by duane
i hadnt heard of this. if true, one would think that it would gain more attention, considering that the last 3axel landed in eligible competition by a female was in 92. :(

The last one landed in an international eligible competition was in 1992. Midori Ito did a beauty of a triple axel at 1996 Japanese Nationals.

[mikey]

Originally posted by adrianchew
Please don't post others email addresses when quoting from elsewhere

Thanks Adrian. I wasn't sure how much to post in order to give proper credit to the original source, yet not violate their privacy.

[Mistyeyed]

I don't know about these two ladies but I do remember reading that little Elizabeth Kwon who I don't even think skates anymore was working in '97 or '98 on and sometimes landing a 3Axle. If she was so good, then where is she. I do not mean this in a derogtory way either, I know its hard on skaters and familes all the training and stuff and all the expense, I just wonder what has become of her? It is a shame when you hear of a young up and commer that has to quit ahead of her time because of lack of funds are injuries because of trying to much to fast ect.

[liljimeo]

Misty,
I watched Liz land it. Her coach brought the VHS of it when she came to our rink for a Celebrity series event. They played it in the Pro Shop... their were more skaters than liz.. She had tons of footage of Michael Weiss and some pairs team... then they played Liz's 3axel. She landed it twice.. and in practice... so it really doesn't hold as much clout as something like 2 skaters landing them in competition, even if it is National Competition. Liz' were very big and fully rotated. So, I will vouch for Kwon. Did anyone else ever see this tape?

[miki_tan]

This is my post.
But still can't see from groups.google.com.

Before me, it's aleady reported on SkateFans ML and Golden Skate board.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/100343
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SkateFans/message/100359
http://pub94.ezboard.com/fgoldenskatefrm29.showMessage?topicID=1974.topic

This site is linked from Golden Skate board thread
have Yukari Nakano's video clip.
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~cam04900/yukari.htm

[Trillian]

Originally posted by Mistyeyed
I don't know about these two ladies but I do remember reading that little Elizabeth Kwon who I don't even think skates anymore was working in '97 or '98 on and sometimes landing a 3Axle. If she was so good, then where is she.

Kwon won the U.S. novice title in 1998, beating Sasha Cohen and Jenny Kirk (as well as next year's junior champ Sara Wheat) in the process. She was fourth as a junior in 1999, and fourteenth as a senior in 2000 (at age 13). She also won a couple of international junior medals. She was unfortunately hampered by a back injury which caused her to withdraw from the 2001 nationals, and retired shortly afterwards at just 14 years old. From what some people have said, the injury still causes her pain when she's just walking around off the ice.

So I guess the short answer is: She ruined her career with overtraining or improper training habits. Which is why some of us don't get excited about every little kid who comes along with unusually difficult triple jumps. It'll be nice if things work out for these Japanese girls, and I have a lot of hope for Nakano since she's already had a strong international career, but thus far my opinion is--they're not the first and they won't be the last.

[i'm a cat WAW]

EK probably tried triple axel but never landed it. her double axel rocked but thats all she could land nicely. she would always mess up on sal or toe. she was a beautiful skater but i dunno what happened to her love of the sport. she just quit or something...............

[Trillian]

Originally posted by i'm a cat WAW
her double axel rocked but thats all she could land nicely. she would always mess up on sal or toe.

She landed both the sal and toe cleanly at the 1999 nationals and they looked pretty easy for her (she was strong in practice as well), so at that point she must have been doing them fairly consistently. I think she was clean in both programs. By that point she wasn't trying any harder jumps because of injury, though, and she finished only fourth because Wheat, Cohen, and Kirk were all doing harder jumps and skated with more maturity.

[Sylvia]

When Elizabeth (Lisa) Kwon won the senior ladies title at Eastern Sectionals in November 2000 (Sara Wheat was 2nd), I seem to recall that she landed 3salchow-3loop, among other jumps, in her FS there. As it turned out, this was her final competitive season that ended with her injury withdrawal from the free skate at 2001 US Nationals in Boston.

[tweetybird]

When Elizabeth (Lisa) Kwon won the senior ladies title at Eastern Sectionals in November 2000 (Sara Wheat was 2nd), I seem to recall that she landed 3salchow-3loop, among other jumps, in her FS there. As it turned out, this was her final competitive season that ended with her injury withdrawal from the free skate at 2001 US Nationals in Boston.

Elizabeth Kwon land 2ax, 3s and 3t cleanly as an intermediate at Junior Nationals and as a novice, however, by 2001 Eastern Sectionals injuries had already taken their toll and the jumps suffered. Her 3s-3l combinations in practice and performance were way under-rotated. Those who make it past big expectations early are the exceptions no the rule. The puberty bug not only changes the center of balance, it also raises the propensity of injuies.

[Alexeiskate]

Originally posted by i'm a cat WAW
EK probably tried triple axel but never landed it. her double axel rocked but thats all she could land nicely. she would always mess up on sal or toe. she was a beautiful skater but i dunno what happened to her love of the sport. she just quit or something...............

I've seen Kwon practice many times and her 3sals and 3toes were very consistent. Since she had really quick, tight rotations on those jumps, I thought it would only be a matter of time before she mastered the flip, lutz and loop, but I don't think she was ever able to get those harder triples consistent. I know she was trying combo like 3sal-3loop, but I think the second triple of the combination was always cheated. She seemed like a nice kid. It was too bad she couldn't continue her skating career.