Got the New USFS rulebook today -- ARRGGHH!

[icedancer2]

Well, the changes to the Adult Moves structure have been added to the rulebook.

Yea!

But as I suspected, it is not entirely clear. In the "Table of Contents" (as it were - p. 461-462) section for the Moves, it still lists them as they were previously: alternating 3s for the Pre-Bronze, Inside Slide Chassee Pattern for Silver, etc.

And then, the in the description section TR 25.09 the Waltz Eight is added (phew!) but it still says that this test consists of the Alternating Forward Three-turns -- they even underline the whole paragraph (which they do if there is something new added to the rulebook!!)

Arg, arg, and double arg

The Silver and Gold Moves descriptions are all good and have changed appropriately (Continuous flow and strength, etc.) -- slide chasses moved to Gold and Power Pulls added to Silver, etc.

I wish they could be consistent in the book. I so don't want people to be confused about which moves they should be doing!!!

Arrgghh.
:giveup:

[Debbie S]

Oh swell. :roll:

As I said in an earlier thread, proofreading isn't rocket science. And in the test sheets on the USFSA website (the ones clubs print out to give to judges), the wrong focuses are still listed for the power pulls on Silver MIF - it's "continuous flow and strength", not "edge quality and extension"!

Out of curiosity (doesn't affect me since I've passed this test), what is the order of elements given for Pre-Bronze FS?

[jazzpants]

I'm curious about the Bronze Moves test as well too. Did they change the focus on those moves??? And do they match the ones on the website? :lol: :twisted:

[Mel On Ice]

anywhere it says "power" for adult MIF, it should have changed to "continuous flow and strength".

Proofreading is a painful job at times, esp. if you do it too long or too late in the day. I made a mistake spelling my own name and let it go once to final proof before someone else pointed it out to me.

We will eventually see the corrected pages in pdf form on the website soon enough.

[icedancer2]

I'm curious about the Bronze Moves test as well too. Did they change the focus on those moves??? And do they match the ones on the website? :lol: :twisted:

Yes, they did change it! Continuous flow and strength instead of "POWER".

Yea. :)

Good luck with your test, jazzpants!

[icedancer2]

Something else came up with the Adult Moves: on the Adult Silver, the test form lists the secondary focus as "Extension".

Extension? On power pulls? Checked the rulebook, the page with the diagram only says: Primary focus: Power.

Other diagram pages where there are standard and adult test foci listed say something like: Standard test: Power; Adult test: Continuous Flow and Strength.

I'm wondering if anyone knows who I might contact at USFS to discuss these confusing typos!???

Thanks.

icedancer. Suddenly the typo queen. :halo:

[Debbie S]

I brought this up earlier. The error is b/c no one at the USFSA thought to change the focuses/foci (whichever is the proper term) of the last move on the Silver test to match the new move. Before, the last move was the slide chasses (from the Intermediate test) - its foci are edge quality and extension. When the pdf form was changed to replace that with the power pulls, no one changed the other side of the form so it is now incorrect. It should be "continuous flow and strength" since in the standard test, the focus is power.

Are you saying that the rulebook lists power as the focus for power pulls on the adult test? If so, that's wrong. Sheesh, USFSA :roll:

[jazzpants]

I brought this up earlier. The error is b/c no one at the USFSA thought to change the focuses/foci (whichever is the proper term) of the last move on the Silver test to match the new move. Before, the last move was the slide chasses (from the Intermediate test) - its foci are edge quality and extension. When the pdf form was changed to replace that with the power pulls, no one changed the other side of the form so it is now incorrect. It should be "continuous flow and strength" since in the standard test, the focus is power.

Are you saying that the rulebook lists power as the focus for power pulls on the adult test? If so, that's wrong. Sheesh, USFSA :roll:Can't say much about the rulebook, since I didn't get on. But the trial judges forms online (http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/TJ_Adult%20SilverMITF%20trial.pdf) are wrong!!!

I guess I should be glad that I'm testing Bronze Moves and NOT Silver Moves, huh? LOL!!! :lol:

[Summerkid710]

At least you all got your rulebooks, I work for a pro shop and we have not yet received our shipment. As one coach was wondering, it's two weeks to regionals and no one has a new rulebook?!?!

[icedancer2]

The clubs should be getting them soon. Judges and officials get them first -- I don't know why -- maybe so we can proof it before it hits the general USFS population! 8-)

[Summerkid710]

The one they are sending is the final edition as far as I know. We did receive our shipment finally.

[jwrnsktr]

OK, I'm confused. I thought for the PreBronze the consecutive three's were out and the new pattern of inside three, outside three, back edges, etc. were taking their place. Did this not go through? I was going to buy the rule book, but if it's full of errors, I think I'll pass. Thanks. Jeanette

[Hannahclear]

I'm still waiting on mine too and am getting more than a little aggravated. They've got my $75 and its way past September now, so where's my rule book?

[phoenix]

Has anyone sent a note to USFSA to let them know about the errors? They really should reprint those pages, or at least put pdfs on the website (not that you'd ever be able to find them! :evil: ) so people can download, print & replace them.

[mikawendy]

Has anyone sent a note to USFSA to let them know about the errors? They really should reprint those pages, or at least put pdfs on the website (not that you'd ever be able to find them! :evil: ) so people can download, print & replace them.

There's an update sheet available on several spots of the USFS web site now:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Programs.asp?id=46

(My rule book still hasn't arrived. The check was cashed in July. I got an e-mail response in September saying it would be along shortly. I'm guessing I'll have to check again.)

[Isk8NYC]

I sent an email to the USFSA because I haven't gotten my rulebook as yet. They're supposed to send one automatically because I'm an individual member (makes sense, right?) They confirmed yesterday that they're sending mine next week.

I wonder if they're short-stocked or had a printing problem? Based on the posts I've read, it seems like they wait for you to inquire about your manual. I renewed my membership in June, yet I have yet to receive the book.

MikaWendy - maybe you should drop them a line and ask about your order.

[blue111moon]

They have a set shipping order: Officals first, then clubs who placed bulk orders, then the single orders for USFS members. My club just got it's bulk order on Tuesday so the individual ones should be going out now, probably in some kind of order (I wouldn't be surprised if it's something arcane like by zipcode or membership number).

[manleywoman]

I got mine yesterday, from a club bulk order.

[Skatewind]

The rulebook delay this year is completely unacceptable. The rulebook is not where it should be on the organization's priority list when skaters, coaches & officials can't even get one until after regionals. I hope USFSA seriously reviews the complaints they receive & will address the problems that caused the rulebook to be distributed so late.

[skaternum]

I noticed on the USFS site that there are update sheets available for download. They were "created and updated to notify members of corrections. Visit the Judges and Officials page, the Synchronized Skating page or the Adult page to download the sheet."

Anybody heard anything about the errors on the Forms?

[sk8pics]

There are some errors in the index for moves, for pre-bronze and silver. I believe the actual diagrams are labelled correctly, so the problem is just in the index. Also, there are some discrepencies between some of the writeups in the rulebook compared to information under the judges' committee forms. For example, on the pre-bronze move it says that the back edges must be started from a standstill in the rulebook, but in the judges' form it says they can be started with motion up to (I think) 3 steps.

There are more corrections forthcoming; the last time I looked at the corrections sheet, it was as of 10/13.

Pat

[icedancer2]

This is the correction sheet that I found on the US Figure Skating site:

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/RulebookCorrections.pdf

It says that for the new pre-bronze Moves the introductory steps and end pattern are optional.

This is a frustrating situation. Someone I know contact US Figure Skating and was told that it was "too much of a nuisance to change the rulebook for the mistakes on the Adult tests".