Weir article

[sk8er1964]

http://www.skatetoday.com/articles0405/010905_2.htm

[Mel On Ice]

I love his skating, not so sure about his attitude. It's a credit to him that he says what's on his mind though.

[Skatewind]

I really like Johnny's skating, but quotes like "I'm not the type to fight for something that's dead, so I just quit" are not all that impressive.

[dbny]

I really like Johnny's skating, but quotes like "I'm not the type to fight for something that's dead, so I just quit" are not all that impressive.

I don't agree. I think it's just sensible, as in "It's no use beating a dead horse." It can be dangerous to keep going when you're "broken", as Johnny said of his experience with the fall against the boards at last year's nationals. One of the things athletes learn is the difference between hurting and being hurt, as in the sense of injured.

[skatingatty]

Terrific article. I never knew he was a pairs skater before. Sounds pretty nice of him to fall when his partner did so she wouldn't feel bad! I think Johnny is a shoo-in for the national title. The other top guys have their highlights, but he's more likely to be able to pull off a perfect program.

[Skatewind]

If what he meant was that he quit because he was too injured to continue, then he has not expressed it in the best way dbny. What you stated is quite different than what Johnny stated, & although your analysis may have been his intent, that's not the impression I have from reading it. "It just broke me" has to do with his mental state according to the paragraph, not an injured state.

I am not supporting the philosophy that skaters should continue on to finish their programs despite serious injuries. I was specifically referring to a quote he made in the article where he was discussing his reasons for quitting without reference to any physical injuries.

[Aimless]

Johnny is the first American male skater who I've loved, on the ice at least. I liked Eldredge, really respected him a lot, thought he had a complete package, but I didn't exactly love him. I admired his competitive grit but his programs had a sameness and lacked lyricism. Some things about Tim and Michael turn me off, enough said. But Johnny has got to me. His success gives me faith in COP.

[dbny]

If what he meant was that he quit because he was too injured to continue, then he has not expressed it in the best way dbny. What you stated is quite different than what Johnny stated, & although your analysis may have been his intent, that's not the impression I have from reading it. "It just broke me" has to do with his mental state according to the paragraph, not an injured state.

I am not supporting the philosophy that skaters should continue on to finish their programs despite serious injuries. I was specifically referring to a quote he made in the article where he was discussing his reasons for quitting without reference to any physical injuries.

I think what he said in the article is somewhat ambiguous, though you are most likely correct.

Johnny is the first American male skater who I've loved, on the ice at least. I liked Eldredge, really respected him a lot, thought he had a complete package, but I didn't exactly love him. I admired his competitive grit but his programs had a sameness and lacked lyricism. Some things about Tim and Michael turn me off, enough said. But Johnny has got to me. His success gives me faith in COP.

ITA.