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sk8er1964
12-03-2004, 11:39 PM
OK - I'm going totally by memory here, no notes or anything.

Evan went first, and he was wonderful. He skated a clean program, and was so pleased with his performance that he hopped up and down before taking his bows. He was really fun to watch. Then came Johnny. His program started out very well, then something happened with the second 3 axel. Unfortunately, I couldn't really see what because a row of idiots decided to let someone into their seats while Johnny was skating, and all stood up. Jerks. :mad: (I wonder if that had any effect on him, because they did it right in front of where he was taking off. Probably not.) Anyway, after that he seemed to lose some of his composure - little slips of footwork then the fall on the 3 loop. I love Johnny's skating, but tonight was definitely not his night. He looked really, really p****d off at himself, too

Next up was Andrei, and he too started out well. I liked his costume, and he had some really good moves that matched his music. Unfortunately, his jumps fizzled out. Ryan was up next, and I think he wuz robbed a bit. To be honest, as much as I love Johnny's skating, I think Ryan should have placed higher than Johnny tonight. It was close, though - I guess because I felt Ryan held onto his composure a bit more than Johnny did. Ryan's choreography and presentation were wonderful, if he could just master that blasted 3 axel. He got a huge ovation from his home-town crowd, and if I remember correctly, they boo'd his marks.

Brian is hot. I feel like a dirty old lady saying this, but he is hot. That costume of his, which looks so awful on the tv, um, shows off his assets very well in person, so to speak. I digress - back to his performance. I thought he did a nice job. His technical errors landed him behind Evan, rightfully so, but he didn't seem near as wooden as his program seemed on tv. He drew the crowd into his performance, and his edging was very sure and strong, too. Seems like he's reduced some of the Yagudin footwork, which I think is a good thing.

Then came Evgeny. I have not been a big fan of his - didn't like his program last year at all - but this performance was wonderful. He got a standing ovation, and I was one of the people standing. It was artistic, it kept your attention rivited from start to finish, and the technical was there too. Until I saw this program, I was wondering how well Johnny and Brian would fare against him this year. My answer is not too well if he performs like he did tonight. I can't see a perfect Joubert or a perfect Weir beating that, whether it be 6.0 or CoP. It was, IMO, that good. He got three 6.0's for presentation, BTW.

Results:

Plushenko
Lysacek
Joubert
Weir
Jahnke
Griacez


Then came the exhibitions. Inuae (sp?) and Baldwin did a show-type number to vocals. I was wondering how the heck they'd be able to skate with no warm up. Their program was fun, but not particularly challenging - in other words, the perfect show program. Then came Tanith and Ben. They did their free dance, and it was wonderful. The one thing I noticed, that you will never be able to notice on tv, is that all of those gold coins on their costume jingle against each other when they dance. It's kind of cool - makes it more gypsy-like.

They had the men signing autographs during intermission, so I wandered up to see if I could get one. Yeah, right. What seemed like 9 million screaming girls were milling around. They had a lot of fun, though (the girls, I don't know about skaters ;) ), although there were a lot of long faces when the men rushed back to the elevator prior to the start on the ladies event.

On to the ladies.

I was very, very disappointed in Michelle's Bolero (I did not get to see it at Campbell's). We were talking about it on the way back, and we decided that maybe Bolero just isn't suited to freestyle. Because the music builds and builds, you expect the skating to build too (like T&D's dance). But freestyle has natural ups and downs, which doesn't lend itself to that kind of music. Technically, she was good, but you know how her programs usually build until she does that wonderful footwork at the end? In this program, the footwork was more like a fizzle - a let down. Also, the entire program had too many crossovers and basic skating back and forth. I really do not think it will fare well under CoP.

Sasha was up next, and like some of the men she started out strong. I though she looked kind of worried in the warm up, and before she went out. Kind of like she wasn't 100%. Well, she proceeded to fall three times. Nice program, though (first time I've seen this one, too). She wore her Swan Lake white dress, though, so we were wondering before she started if she had gone back to the old program. I think Jenny was next. She skated a wonderful program - and falls into the wuz robbed category. I definitely had her above Sasha - she fell once on a 3 sal, but everything else was picture perfect. I was shocked when her ordinals came up in 3rd place. (To be honest, I'd have put her above Michelle, even with the fall, based on her choreography, which was much more difficult.)

Then came Alyssa. She was wonderful. I saw this program at Skate Detroit, and was not impressed. I thought she looked like a Sasha wannabe. Well, I take back my words. Although she did have the flexibility moves, she does have a style all her own. She had jumping problems, though, which hurt her alot. Irina was next, and she skated a terrific program. I think she nailed everything - to be honest, it didn't really matter if she missed something or not. The program was technically difficult, and fun and entertaining. A well deserved win for her.

Finally came Angela. I didn't envy her skating after Irena. She did well until about 1/2 way, when she started popping into doubles. She singled her axel. She does have, without a doubt, the best layback of any of the ladies, including Sasha (and I love Sasha's layback).

Results:

Slutskaya
Kwan
Cohen
Kirk
Cysney
Nikodinov (I may have the last two places mixed up)

Did I miss someone? It's getting late.

Then they did the check awards, and had the skaters do a "Victory" lap. All of the skaters did a move or element as they were called out (in reverse order of finish) except for Weir and Kwan. Weir looked downright grumpy, and Kwan looked her usual gracious self. Don't know why they didn't do an element.

It was a nice night. Hope I didn't mangle anything up too much.

magicladi
12-04-2004, 12:18 AM
Thanks for your report. I have to disagree about Bolero. It is an amazing piece of music that has nuances to it. It does build. I think it's perfect for Kwan. I also think the Nutcracker is perfect for Sasha. I can hardly wait to see the programs. I am very happy for Irina to be so healthy and able to perform so well. Sounds like everyone was placed in the right positions.

Since Sasha fell 3 times (according to reports elsewhere), there would be no way to place her above Kwan. But according to others that I have read, Kirk should have been ahead of Cohen with Cohen in 4th. I'll have to wait and see when I get to see the programs. It's hard to imagine that Kirk's presentation would be better than Sasha's.

Well, this is going to be an interesting Nationals, don't you think?

jss
12-04-2004, 02:19 AM
Link to article:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/10335904.htm?1c

To me it sounds like Irinia clearly won, and Michelle and Sasha were rusty. I expect both to be fully ready at Nationals.

dobiesk8r
12-04-2004, 07:42 AM
Thanks for the great report, 1964.

hiliairyh
12-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Since Sasha fell 3 times (according to reports elsewhere), there would be no way to place her above Kwan. But according to others that I have read, Kirk should have been ahead of Cohen with Cohen in 4th. I'll have to wait and see when I get to see the programs. It's hard to imagine that Kirk's presentation would be better than Sasha's.

Well, this is going to be an interesting Nationals, don't you think?

Read carefully, I think the poster meant Jenny Kirk should be placed ahead of Sasha and Michelle. Actually reports stated Sasha had to three turn out of her axel landing ala Bobek.

magicladi
12-04-2004, 04:07 PM
Well, from all the reports I've read, it doesn't seem that Jenny should have been ahead of either of them. Don't get me wrong. Jenny is a beautiful skater and I adore watching her skate. But her overall presentation isn't on the same level as Kwan and Cohen. Even with 3 falls, there's more than that to a program. But you have to view it yourself. Some people had Kirk only above Cohen. Others had Kirk right where she was. No one had Kirk above Kwan that I've read so far. It's just perception.

Anyhow, I think this report was pretty good. All of them have been. I really appreciate people taking the time to come back and give their slant on the competition for those of us who weren't there.

Bondo, I think her luggage got lost by the airlines. That was reported on USFS in one of the pictures they had up. I actually like that Swan Lake dress myself. I hope her falls didn't jar her back. One report said the falls looked hard.

And I totally agree with you about Irina. Good for her!!!

prunes89
12-05-2004, 08:29 PM
I'm more worried than ever for Sasha. I wonder if she'll write an explanation in the journal like she usuallydoes. I need to know what happened.
I don't think a 3 fall program should be placed ahead of Kwan, or Jenny Kirk. I think as much as we all love Sasha, we need to be fair.
Please tell me there was a major problem. Her journal said she is doing well and plans a powerful program.

danibellerika
12-05-2004, 10:09 PM
Couldn't practice the day before because her luggage went missing at the airport. Don't know when it got to her, so we don't know if she practiced the day of. Then she's just getting back off the injury and probably has no stamina. Her confidence was probably a bit rattled too. All in all, suprisingly she didn't blame her back as a factor. Sasha often has reasons to try to explain what could have gone wrong (I'm not a big fan of excuses for just about EVERYtime you perform bad, because she makes mistakes often so it sounds like she has excuses often). I love Sasha, but that's a harp of mine.

Alexa
12-07-2004, 01:44 PM
Unfortunately, I couldn't really see what because a row of idiots decided to let someone into their seats while Johnny was skating, and all stood up. Jerks.

That is so annoying! When I went to Worlds in DC, we were in a row with people that got up to leave their seats constantly. So we were forever standing up and sitting down to accomodate these people. And when they chose good skating moments, that only made it worse.

danibellerika
12-07-2004, 04:44 PM
You know what? I was at Worlds in DC too, and I sat towards the end of the aile and had a similar problem.

MQSeries
12-07-2004, 06:24 PM
That is so annoying! When I went to Worlds in DC, we were in a row with people that got up to leave their seats constantly. So we were forever standing up and sitting down to accomodate these people. And when they chose good skating moments, that only made it worse.

I was annoyed at the people in front of me who insisted on standing up during every warm-up period. I was also annoyed at the girl two seats from me who constantly asked "is that a triple?", "was that two-footed?", "Is that a luz?", etc. throughout the entire event.

Alexa
12-08-2004, 08:29 AM
You know what? I was at Worlds in DC too, and I sat towards the end of the aile and had a similar problem.

I wonder if it is because since Worlds were in the US, it caused a lot of casual skating fans to come who did not know most of the skaters except the US skaters, and thus they felt the need to get out of their seats often. Not sure, but sorry that you had to endure it as well!

I was annoyed at the people in front of me who insisted on standing up during every warm-up period. I was also annoyed at the girl two seats from me who constantly asked "is that a triple?", "was that two-footed?", "Is that a luz?", etc. throughout the entire event.

You are lucky most of the people around you had even heard of a triple jump :) The people around me were only constantly asking about Michelle Kwan, and clearly had no idea about any other skaters or the sport itself.

terisalyn
12-08-2004, 01:23 PM
... something happened with the second 3 axel. Unfortunately, I couldn't really see what because a row of idiots decided to let someone into their seats while Johnny was skating, and all stood up. Jerks. :mad: (I wonder if that had any effect on him, because they did it right in front of where he was taking off. Probably not.)

Probably DID, if you were sitting anywhere in the lower section of seating. Many skaters have said that movement like that in the stands can throw them off when they're setting up a jump. Arena personnel should be trained not to let anyone down to their seats in the lower level except for the time between skaters.

sk8er1964
12-08-2004, 02:45 PM
Probably DID, if you were sitting anywhere in the lower section of seating. Many skaters have said that movement like that in the stands can throw them off when they're setting up a jump. Arena personnel should be trained not to let anyone down to their seats in the lower level except for the time between skaters.

They were in the second or third row from the ice (I was 11 rows up).