View Full Version : Shae-Lynn looking for a new partner?
jcspkbfan
03-27-2004, 09:02 AM
Shae-Lynn Bourne talks about looking for a new ice dance partner--and her thoughts on a possible match with Peter Tchernysev:
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/FigureSkating/2004/03/25/395830-cp.html
Very interesting indeed...
trains
03-27-2004, 05:41 PM
I heard a rumour a few weeks ago that Shae Lynn was skating with a new partner who was Russian. This adds fuel to the fire.
viennese
03-27-2004, 08:02 PM
How tall are Shae Lynn and Peter?
What's the usual height differential between ice dance partners?
IceAngel2007
03-27-2004, 09:45 PM
WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN nAOMI AND pETER?! sorry about the capitals.
what?meworry?
03-28-2004, 12:07 AM
you been living under a rock?
she's pregnant and quit. she's very happy now.
at nationals, she claimed her perenniel "ankle injury" that defied diagnosis, and which she never did anything to "correct." that's why she withdrew them. peter was at the sidelines with steam coming out of his ears.
can't do much to cheer you up except to point out that once you're out on your own, you'll understand a lot more about your folks and care a lot less about your boyfriends, and hopefully rely a lot more on yourself. scary and exciting prospects. but you will feel great exhuberance.
i did rotc. if you're doing rotc, you're too young to "love" anyone not to mention vice versa. guys have it right---school, buddies (or the reverse), girlfriends, last, dead last.
girls get it wrong. guys, guys, guys. girls would be much better off if they adjusted their priorities to school, buddies (or the reverse), family (who tend to bail you out no matter what) and trailing well behind in order of importance, guys. girls are not rational until 25 or so, guys not until 28 or so.
Judging from that article, I'd say that Shae is looking for a potential partner to skate with as a pro, not someone she can skate competitively with.
Xiaoxue
03-30-2004, 05:45 PM
VGL, that's a wonderful conclusion! I hope you're right, but will it be Peter? Peter doesn't have the fame to go with his name, so Shae and him would not earn that much $$$ on the pro circuit, would they?
Would that even be a consideration? Let's assume that they are able to have these wonderful routines and they skate just so nicely together, would that be enough to boost their marketability and $$$ worth?
Who else could she partner with? Steven Cousins? :P
Artemis
03-30-2004, 06:17 PM
I think she'd be wise to hold off on her decision until the end of her CSOI tour. If they're able to work her into the ensemble in a meaningful manner, and if she gets some good feedback on her solo numbers, I'd love to see her stay solo. Shae & Vic were so unique, I just can't imagine Shae (or Vic) with anyone else.
If, however, her CSOI run this year relegates her to a minor, Denis-Petrov-without-Elena-type role, then yes, I'd say she should consider finding a new partner.
CanuckSk8r
04-28-2004, 03:27 PM
If Shae and Peter skate together (which is looking fairly certain) it would be in their best interests to compete, make a new name for themselves, then turn pro and tour. Especially considering how (relatively) close the Olympics are. They money would be quite a bit more for them that way, rather than just trying to make a go as pros!
On a side note, saw CSOI in London on Sunday.... Shae was absolutely stunning. It does not look like something or someone is missing when she is out there. But she can't skate solo for too long, the novelty will eventually wear off. In the meantime - she is breath taking!!!!!
Artemis
04-28-2004, 04:53 PM
... But she can't skate solo for too long, the novelty will eventually wear off.
Why would the "novelty" wear off? If her solo skating "works," it works regardless. I have to reserve judgment until after I see the Vancouver show on Sunday, but from what I can picture I think she'll be just fine on her own for however long she wants to skate and can get good programs that suit her strengths. Although it's not the norm to have a solo skater who doesn't do jumps, it's not gimmick or novelty either that will "wear off," IMO.
Schmeck
04-28-2004, 07:15 PM
Don't think they'd be able to do the eligible skating thing at the Olys - isn't she Canadien and he's a US citizen now?
There is no way Shae and Peter could compete as a team at the 2006 Olympics. There isn't enough time for them to obtain citizenship in either Canada or the US.
CanuckSk8r
04-29-2004, 09:58 AM
Peter and Shae could be eligible for the 2006 Olympics, you only need 2 years to "convert" and one is already under their belts as neither Shae nor Peter competed in any competitions that would have qualified. That leaves this year, and they can still compete at nationals, create the buzz nd next year take the world by storm.
I didn't mean "novelty wear off" in a mean way, I just think that for both Shae and the audience, the initial excitement of her skating by herself will subside. And Shae being Shae will not be anything but unbelievable. I guess I mean to say that her solo career will probably be short lived (thinking of Garry Beacom before his legal issues!). But with more thought on the subject, Shae always has a way of coming up with something new and exciting and completely unbelievable, so I could be way off! I am really sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't mean to.
I would love to see Shae skate forever, her talent and grace is IMO the best this sport has seen in a really long time. I just know that although her heart is in skating, her passion lies in dancing.
Again, I am really sorry if I offended anyone by my earlier comment.
Rogue
04-29-2004, 10:13 AM
Peter and Shae could be eligible for the 2006 Olympics, you only need 2 years to "convert" and one is already under their belts as neither Shae nor Peter competed in any competitions that would have qualified. That leaves this year, and they can still compete at nationals, create the buzz nd next year take the world by storm.
They would be eligible for 2006 Worlds, but not for the Olympics. The Olympics has the added citizenship requirement, so unless Shae has dual citizenship in the U.S., they wouldn't meet that requirement. Much like Belbin and Agosto probably won't be able to complete at 2006 Olympics since they do not share citizenship in the same country.
professordeb
04-29-2004, 11:17 AM
They would be eligible for 2006 Worlds, but not for the Olympics. The Olympics has the added citizenship requirement, so unless Shae has dual citizenship in the U.S., they wouldn't meet that requirement. Much like Belbin and Agosto probably won't be able to complete at 2006 Olympics since they do not share citizenship in the same country.
Now wait a minute!!! :lol: Who says they'll skate for the U.S. when they could do it just as well in Canada! Come on, you've already got one of our perky blondes, not fair for you to have both. :P
Anyway, don't think it's likely for this pairing to happen, no matter how much we may wish.
til later,
Deb
Rogue
04-29-2004, 12:36 PM
Now wait a minute!!! :lol: Who says they'll skate for the U.S. when they could do it just as well in Canada! Come on, you've already got one of our perky blondes, not fair for you to have both. :P
Anyway, don't think it's likely for this pairing to happen, no matter how much we may wish.
til later,
Deb
It's just that I do know that Peter does not have Canadian citizenship, and could not get it in time for the Olympics. I do not know if Shae has dual citizenship or not. If she doesn't, then it doesn't matter which country they skate for, they won't be eligible for the Olympics.
Artemis
04-29-2004, 06:13 PM
^ In brief, Victor liked the competitive side of the sport, and didn't see much fulfillment for himself in the professional ranks. Especially since there are virtually no pro comps for dancers. Shae was taken by surprise -- she was more of the performer in the duo, and had been looking forward to tours etc. So mostly it was a case the two of them wanting different things, as can happen in any partnership.
DaisySmurf
04-29-2004, 08:45 PM
They would be eligible for 2006 Worlds, but not for the Olympics. The Olympics has the added citizenship requirement, so unless Shae has dual citizenship in the U.S., they wouldn't meet that requirement. Much like Belbin and Agosto probably won't be able to complete at 2006 Olympics since they do not share citizenship in the same country.
It takes seven years to get U.S. citizenship, so 2006 is out of the question for Shae Lynn at least.
Didn't the original article say that Shae Lynn won't skate for any country besides Canada?
What are Canadian citizenship requirements?
I though that Belbin will be eligible by 2006.
CanuckSk8r
04-30-2004, 08:40 AM
Shae and Peter would represent Canada. And in speaking with someone very close to the source, they will be eligible, which is why they are considering competing instead of pro!
I am not sure of the Canadain Citizenship rules, but I will see what I can dig up!
Anjelica
04-30-2004, 04:37 PM
Hmmm....how could they possibly be Olympic-eligible?
CanAmSk8ter
05-01-2004, 04:33 PM
Last I had heard, the deal with Tanith was that her (dual) citizenship would probably be finalized sometime during the summer of 2006- in other words, a few months too late for the Torino Games.
It takes 3 years to become a Canadian citizen.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizen/menu-howto.html
Artemis
05-03-2004, 12:59 PM
After seeing Shae as a solo skater last night at CSOI, I really hope she doesn't team up with Peter or anyone else. Aside from the fact that they couldn't compete at Olympics, I think even competing at Worlds would be an exercise in disatisfaction. It's not like pairs where a new partnership is judged on its merits. In dance it's all about reputation, and although Shae would be coming in as a World Champ, Peter wouldn't, and the pairing itself would have to work their way up. Not to mention the time it takes for a dance team to form that sense of one-ness.
But the other reason is that Shae was just amazing as a soloist. Who needs jumps -- or a partner -- when you can skate like that? Even in the ensemble numbers she was in a class by herself -- her dancing movements really stood out.
Canskater
05-03-2004, 01:20 PM
Two teams come to mind who "gelled" quickly .....
> Maya Usova and Evgeny Platov
> Oksana Grishuk and Sasha Zhulin.
Grishuk and Zhulin pretty much won everything they entered, albeit as pros. Personally, they didn't do anything for me, but the judges seemed to really like and reward them.
Usova and Platov were stunning (in my opinion). When Platov skated with Grishuk, he was just a mannequin .... she just overshadowed him and he seemed to disappear. With Usova, they were a perfect team ..... truly exceptional.
-- sheilagh
Rogue
05-03-2004, 03:30 PM
Two teams come to mind who "gelled" quickly .....
> Maya Usova and Evgeny Platov
> Oksana Grishuk and Sasha Zhulin.
Grishuk and Zhulin pretty much won everything they entered, albeit as pros. Personally, they didn't do anything for me, but the judges seemed to really like and reward them.
Usova and Platov were stunning (in my opinion). When Platov skated with Grishuk, he was just a mannequin .... she just overshadowed him and he seemed to disappear. With Usova, they were a perfect team ..... truly exceptional.
-- sheilagh
My memory must be faulty. I seem to recall Grishuk/Zhulin in exactly 2 pro competitions. One they won (that ESPN pro competition), and the other they came in third (World Pros), while Usova/Platov won. What other competitions were they in?
Artemis
05-03-2004, 03:42 PM
Two teams come to mind who "gelled" quickly .....
> Maya Usova and Evgeny Platov
> Oksana Grishuk and Sasha Zhulin.
But both of those "new" pairings only ever skated as pros. As we all know, in the amateur ranks, reputation is everything. And from a technical standpoint, although I could see Shae and Peter putting together some fabulous looking programs, I can't see them "gelling" their technique for the CD and OD in just a year or two.
Sure, it would be nice to see the dance discipline represented in pro shows. But that's not a good enough reason to create a new dance team that could never be as good as Shae & Vic were. Especially when she's proven how wonderful and unique she can be as a solo skater.
JMO.
MQSeries
05-03-2004, 03:50 PM
My memory must be faulty. I seem to recall Grishuk/Zhulin in exactly 2 pro competitions. One they won (that ESPN pro competition), and the other they came in third (World Pros), while Usova/Platov won. What other competitions were they in?
Grishuk and Zhulin's routines were quite entertaining at the World Pro event. Unfortunately for them, most of the audience and commentators at the event decided to be the moral police and refused to give them the applause that they deserved, because of what they had heard/read about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. The lack of public support pretty much sealed the fate of the Grishuk-Zhulin's partnership.
Moto Guzzi
05-03-2004, 09:17 PM
Grishuk and Zhulin's routines were quite entertaining at the World Pro event. Unfortunately for them, most of the audience and commentators at the event decided to be the moral police and refused to give them the applause that they deserved, because of what they had heard/read about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. The lack of public support pretty much sealed the fate of the Grishuk-Zhulin's partnership.
I was at the World Pro competition, and I doubt if most of the people in the audience knew much, if anything, about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. I applauded them but applauded Usova and Platov more because I liked their skating better, not because I "decided to be the moral police". :roll: And, judging by the comments of people around me, others in the audience felt the same.
MQSeries
05-03-2004, 10:08 PM
I was at the World Pro competition, and I doubt if most of the people in the audience knew much, if anything, about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. I applauded them but applauded Usova and Platov more because I liked their skating better, not because I "decided to be the moral police". :roll: And, judging by the comments of people around me, others in the audience felt the same.
When the camera showed Grishuk and Zhulin taking their bow, It was quite obvious that quite a few people in the first few rows were refusing to applaud. The applause for them, whatever there was, was very tepid. I've been to several World Pro, and the audience ususally give every skater respect. Most of the audience were definitely thumping their nose up the ceiling last night at G&Z.
There was definitely a vibe that night that Platov-Usova was the "good" people and hence was a favorites, getting loud applause, whereas Grishuk-Zhulin were deemed the "bad" people and getting tepid reception.
jazzpants
05-04-2004, 12:07 AM
I was at the World Pro competition, and I doubt if most of the people in the audience knew much, if anything, about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. I applauded them but applauded Usova and Platov more because I liked their skating better, not because I "decided to be the moral police". :roll: And, judging by the comments of people around me, others in the audience felt the same.I plead ignorance -- what did Grishuk do that everyone thought it was so bad???
Rogue
05-04-2004, 08:42 AM
I was at the World Pro competition, and I doubt if most of the people in the audience knew much, if anything, about Grishuk's off-ice behaviors. I applauded them but applauded Usova and Platov more because I liked their skating better, not because I "decided to be the moral police". :roll: And, judging by the comments of people around me, others in the audience felt the same.
Considering the tacky flyers G/Z's publicity machine was passing out before the event, a good portion of the audience probably did know.
CanuckSk8r
05-05-2004, 10:19 AM
I am not 100% certain what Oksana Grishuk all did, but I know that she was quite "free with herself" to men (sorry I don't know a more polite way to say it :oops: ) on a few different occasions. One that I definately know is 100% true, is she was quite friendly with Vic & Shae's ballroom dance coach at one point at worlds. They were seen enjoying eachothers' company, shockingly by one of the B&K team.
Rumour had it that Oksana was a big part of the martial breakup of Usova/Zuhlin. I believe that is what people are refering to when it was said that Grishuk/Zulin were the "bad" guys. Again, that was just a rumour, I don't know how true it is..... I didn't hear it directly from the source, it's just what I heard!
It was Anjelika Krylova who was romantically involved with Guiseppe Arena who choreographed High Society for B&K.
ceceB
05-05-2004, 10:54 PM
While I definitely think that Peter and Shae would make a lovely team, after seeing Shae in Vancouver on sunday I hope that she's skating solo in CSOI again next year, she was fab!
Actually, perhaps I would like to see her and Peter skate as pros in CSOI, doing one number together and allowing Shae to still have a solo. ;) Why not be selfish!?
BTW, I completely agree Artemis, in the group numbers I watched Shae the whole time. She's awesome. :)
CanuckSk8r
05-06-2004, 01:04 PM
It was Anjelika Krylova who was romantically involved with Guiseppe Arena who choreographed High Society for B&K.
True, but Oksana was involved with their Ballroom Dance coach.
jcspkbfan
05-24-2004, 09:31 AM
I'm kind of surprised Shae-Lynn's talking about returning to eligible skating again--I thought she was the one who wanted to turn pro while Victor wanted to stay eligible longer?
I agree that whether or not Shae finds a new partner or continues to go it alone, the pro circuit seems to be the best place for her right now.
Artemis
05-25-2004, 11:24 AM
I'm kind of surprised Shae-Lynn's talking about returning to eligible skating again--I thought she was the one who wanted to turn pro while Victor wanted to stay eligible longer?
I have neither heard nor seen any "talk" from Shae herself about definitely wanting to return to eligible skating. She's only really said that she's not closing any doors and leaving her options open. Talk about potential partners has been speculative only, coming mostly from people outside her camp.
CanuckSk8r
05-25-2004, 01:44 PM
I have neither heard nor seen any "talk" from Shae herself about definitely wanting to return to eligible skating. She's only really said that she's not closing any doors and leaving her options open. Talk about potential partners has been speculative only, coming mostly from people outside her camp.
At Worlds Shae did an interview with the press that discussed her future and although she was vague and stated that she wasn't closing any doors, she did say that competeing again was in the pile of options. I think that people have been using that as a starting point. But from what I have heard, they aren't straying too far from what Shae said herslef. But then I haven't heard much else than what I have already posted!!
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