Lang and Tchernyshev Officially Announce Split

[PAskate]

http://www.usfigureskating.org/Story.asp?id=23522&type=news

[Artemis]

Well the official reason for the split may be unexpected, but the announcement isn't a complete shock.

What a shame, though. They were such a lovely and talented team.

[muggie]

Wow! With skating, you should always expect the unexpected.

Seriously, I feel kind of bad for Peter. Seems like Naomi's been uncommitted and has maybe been stringing him along, in terms of their on-ice partnership (whether intentional or not).

I always liked this team. Another loss for US figure skating.

[jkl]

Well..........she really is pregnant. I wonder when the baby is due and if this pregnancy had anything to do with her withdrawing from Nationals?

[what?meworry?]

there were rumors of a split---of naomi not wanting to competete anymore two summers ago---then last summer all the stuff that surfaced when they were removed from the isu listing for the grand prix series.

at nationals, we were sitting close enough to get a good view. peter looked as though he had steam coming out of his ears while naomi pulled out.

someone else sitting right on top of the "event" had the opinion that it looked "set up." again speculative on their part, that peter was upset because he wanted to compete the od, (which was really great in practice).

isn't naomi's boyfriend married? with a kid already? or is he divorced?

anyway, peter is 32 or something. too bad, with naomi apparently not that interested in competing for a while now, that they didn't split clean. but then again, who'd he skate with here?

[schnood]

It's too bad about this team, I always liked them. One question though, is Besedin one of the acrobats? The big guy or the small guy?

Best wishes to both.

[what?meworry?]

http://www.freep.com/sports/othersports/line18_20040218.htm

"the first shock is over, but I haven't decided what to do," he said. "the plan was to go to the olympics in 2006 in italy. it's all changed now.

"on one hand, i'm really upset that our whole career is coming to an early end. but as far as life goes, i'm very happy for naomi. but i don't know what my plan is going to be." pt

obviously, this pregnancy was planned, or at the very least, no provisions were taken to avoid pregnancy. so this gives credibility to reports much earlier (summer of 2002) that naomi just plain didn't want to compete anymore. i feel if there had been more honesty here the "injury" would have been address earlier, too.

now peter is two or more years (the rumors started two summers ago) behind should he still wish to find a partner and compete. additionally, if russia offers dual citizenship, he could still make the 2006 olympics if he could find an world level partner. but it wouldn't be for the usa. he is a citizen.

naomi is happy about it all, which is good for her. she'll still be around skating and be able to teach and have her family.

[iskater13]

He is the larger one of the two men. As for him being married and have other children.........I do not know.

[sonora]

Peter, get a partner who can skate.

[EdemamePirate]

I was at an opening of an art gallery in NYC this fall and saw Naomi with her boyfriend. Most of the people there were skaters, coaches, and judges and from what I heard he is not divorced.

[MQSeries]

I'm sure Peter's voice mail is already flooded with requests for partner tryout.

[13KJC13]

"obviously, this pregnancy was planned, or at the very least, no provisions were taken to avoid pregnancy"

How do you know this??? Abstinence is the only thing that is 100% reliable.

[what?meworry?]

Originally posted by 13KJC13
"obviously, this pregnancy was planned, or at the very least, no provisions were taken to avoid pregnancy"

How do you know this??? Abstinence is the only thing that is 100% reliable.

ah, 13k, just feast your eyes on this. (go louis!!)



just scroll down to louis' post.




edited to remove URL...see end of thread for explanation. --flippet

[Vicky458]

Does anyone know how old Valdimir is. He looks to be alot older than Naomi. Babies are always a miracle but I do feel that if Valdimir is still married this is not a good way to start out. I certainly hope that they know what they are doing. I wish her happiness as I wish Peter the best too. I sure hope he finds another partner and jcontinues to aim for the 2006 Olympics.

[SkateFan123]

Originally posted by what?meworry?
ah, 13k, just feast your eyes on this. (go louis!!)



just scroll down to louis' post.

That's not surprising from Louis.

Planned or unplanned, who cares. The result is the same. No one knows what went on between Naomi and Peter regarding the decision to end their partnership. Although many women come back to skating after pregancy, perhaps she didn't want to or perhaps Peter didn't want to wait. Either way, it's too bad. I always enjoyed their skating and talking to both of them. I wish them luck.

Many seem to be thinking Peter and Shae Lynn would make a good team. That would be interesting but they couldn't compete at the Olympics. And who would they compete for? But a pro career might be possible. Interesting.

[sonora]

Peter and Pasha is my dream team.

[Skatewind]

Time to go back & have a laugh at those incredulous posts from L/T fans directed to anyone who dared to post Naomi's name & the word pregnancy in the same sentence. :lol:

[Mel On Ice]

wow, no love for Naomi? I wish the best of luck to her, her baby and her boyfriend.

[icedancer2]

I wish Naomi all the best. My, how times have changed -- I found it amazing that the USFSA put the fact that she was having a baby with her boyfriend right out front without any pretense. Hooray for them!!

OTOH Peter is such a superb ice-dancer that I would hate to not see him anymore. Shae-Lynn would be great. Pasha = great and how about Marina Annisina? I think she is without a partner...

The fantasy in me wanted to call him up for a tryout myself!!!;) :lol: :lol: :bow:

[SkateFan123]

Originally posted by icedancer2
I wish Naomi all the best. My, how times have changed -- I found it amazing that the USFSA put the fact that she was having a baby with her boyfriend right out front without any pretense. Hooray for them!!

OTOH Peter is such a superb ice-dancer that I would hate to not see him anymore. Shae-Lynn would be great. Pasha = great and how about Marina Annisina? I think she is without a partner...

The fantasy in me wanted to call him up for a tryout myself!!!;) :lol: :lol: :bow:

Umm, Marina and Peter...hadn't thought of them together. That would be awesome. They'd do a great job on the pro circuit!

I'm with you on wishing Naomi all the best. Peter too!

[icedancer2]

Originally posted by SkateFan123
Umm, Marina and Peter...hadn't thought of them together. That would be awesome. They'd do a great job on the pro circuit!


Maybe they could skate for Russia? If there was some sort of dual-citizenship-thingy? (dream on...):??

[SkateFan123]

Originally posted by icedancer2
Maybe they could skate for Russia? If there was some sort of dual-citizenship-thingy? (dream on...):??

I almost posted that same comment but decided to pass on it!!!

[icedancer2]

Originally posted by SkateFan123
I almost posted that same comment but decided to pass on it!!!

Great minds think alike!!:)

[what?meworry?]

Originally posted by icedancer2
I wish Naomi all the best. My, how times have changed -- I found it amazing that the USFSA put the fact that she was having a baby with her boyfriend right out front without any pretense. Hooray for them!!...

actually, in a cover story about them quite a while ago, the usfsa reporter was quite direct about them being a couple off the ice when they first partnered up, although recently no longer together.

they were an item from the beginning of the partnership. an odd side story of this, is how upset peter was when his former wife, natalia anenko remarried (both were at dsc at the time, she a coach.)

[barnita]

Nice Pic!

http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/j_buttle/detail?.dir=/Sk8+With+Elvis&.dnm=sk8monlang.jpg

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by SkateFan123
That's not surprising from Louis.

Planned or unplanned, who cares. The result is the same. No one knows what went on between Naomi and Peter regarding the decision to end their partnership. Although many women come back to skating after pregancy, perhaps she didn't want to or perhaps Peter didn't want to wait. Either way, it's too bad. I always enjoyed their skating and talking to both of them. I wish them luck.

Many seem to be thinking Peter and Shae Lynn would make a good team. That would be interesting but they couldn't compete at the Olympics. And who would they compete for? But a pro career might be possible. Interesting. Planned or unplanned - who cares? I do. If Naomi planned to bring a baby into the world with a "boyfriend" who may or may not be married....well, we can't say anything good about her planning skills!

Can't people do things in the correct order? And, yes, there is a correct order.

[Smiley0084]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Planned or unplanned - who cares? I do. If Naomi planned to bring a baby into the world with a "boyfriend" who may or may not be married....well, we can't say anything good about her planning skills!

Can't people do things in the correct order? And, yes, there is a correct order.

Wow, I guess Naomi missed the memo that she was supposed to consult with you how she chooses to live her life. :roll: If Naomi doesn't want to get married why the heck should she? And no there isn't a correct order, I guess Naomi also missed the law where you must be married to have children. I wish People like you would just get of their high horse. Unless you are Jesus christ himself you aren't exactly in a position in condnem, unless you are the one and only lucky person in the world to be perfect :roll:

[SkateFan123]

Originally posted by Smiley0084
Wow, I guess Naomi missed the memo that she was supposed to consult with you how she chooses to live her life. :roll: If Naomi doesn't want to get married why the heck should she? And no there isn't a correct order, I guess Naomi also missed the law where you must be married to have children. I wish People like you would just get of their high horse. Unless you are Jesus christ himself you aren't exactly in a position in condnem, unless you are the one and only lucky person in the world to be perfect :roll:

You'll get blasted for this post but you are right.

It's not our place to judge what skaters do in their personal life. Or what anyone else does in their lives.

I read http://www.freep.com/sports/othersports/line18_20040218.htm and http://www.cmmskating.com/newslang.shtml. It seems that Naomi is happy about her life and Peter wishes her well. He's undecided about his future. I hope he finds another partner and continues to skate.

[Leela]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Planned or unplanned - who cares? I do. If Naomi planned to bring a baby into the world with a "boyfriend" who may or may not be married....well, we can't say anything good about her planning skills!

Can't people do things in the correct order? And, yes, there is a correct order.


Hello!--newsflash to AxelAnnie22 (a.k.a. Miss Manners)---- Not everyone agrees with your notion of "correct order" We're not talking soup-before-the-salad here. You don't get to decide how other people live their lives :roll:

[butterfly]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Planned or unplanned - who cares? I do. If Naomi planned to bring a baby into the world with a "boyfriend" who may or may not be married....well, we can't say anything good about her planning skills!

Can't people do things in the correct order? And, yes, there is a correct order. I totally agree with you that she has been irresponsible in her planning, but I have a theory. I believe that she is pregnant to escape skating. This was her only way out of skating competitively. Yes, and I am not afraid to go against the crowd in saying that in this new day we think about ourselves first and the lives of our babies second. Yes, marriage before pregnancy and oh yes, if he isn't divorced that shows more self indulgence on his part. He certainly has no responsibilty. Having a child should be considered an awesome responsibility. Naomi is a nice person and I wish her the best but this sad story is not over.

[Anjelica]

Axel Annie you must be about 80 years old, right? That kind of thinking went out many years ago. This is 2004 in case you hadn't noticed! Incidentally I would like to be allowed to go over your life with a fine tooth comb to see whether or not you have always done things by this 'correct order' that you are speaking of! Hmmm...wonder how many skeletons are in YOUR closet?? Unless of course you are just posting that for the effect of it all. How do any of you know whether or not this was a planned pregnancy or whatever? I doubt that any of you know the facts for sure, or that Naomi & Vladimir ever discussed them with you. I think the 'correct order' of things is to wish Naomi, Peter, Vladimir and the baby all the best right now.

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by butterfly
I totally agree with you that she has been irresponsible in her planning, but I have a theory. I believe that she is pregnant to escape skating. This was her only way out of skating competitively. Yes, and I am not afraid to go against the crowd in saying that in this new day we think about ourselves first and the lives of our babies second. Yes, marriage before pregnancy and oh yes, if he isn't divorced that shows more self indulgence on his part. He certainly has no responsibilty. Having a child should be considered an awesome responsibility. Naomi is a nice person and I wish her the best but this sad story is not over. Yep - it is a sad story. And, I agree with you that the baby may well be her ticket out of skating.

And, if any of you have read any of the research regarding the affects on the CHILDREN of out of wedlock birth, you would begin to understand that there IS a correct order - and there is for a reason. It is not my order, but an order of structure, commitment and stability that has developed over thousands of years. Why? Because it provides the most stability, security and nuturing for a child, and the best environment in which to grow. Can a child grow up and be an extraordinary person without a Mommy and a Daddy - married and making a home for that child? Sure. Would any of you be willing to argue that a single mom and an accidental (or planned) pregnancy is the best option?

But, you see, in this day and age, what is important is what YOU want........regardless of the consequences to anyone around you. Can't wait for the pendulum to swing the heck back!

[Skatewind]

Originally posted by Anjelica
Axel Annie you must be about 80 years old, right? That kind of thinking went out many years ago. This is 2004 in case you hadn't noticed! Incidentally I would like to be allowed to go over your life with a fine tooth comb to see whether or not you have always done things by this 'correct order' that you are speaking of! Hmmm...wonder how many skeletons are in YOUR closet??
Actually, no, "that kind of thinking" did not go out many years ago. There are still an awful lot of people who hold traditional views in 2004. I may not agree with AxelAnnie or such views myself, but it is an opinion & since when are different views ineligible for discussion on this board? Regarding skeletons in the closet, there are skeletons in the closet & then there's a front page press release by a skater on a website. Big difference between the two. I haven't read AxelAnnie's press release on the USFS website yet, although I'm quite sure people will be happy to discuss that one too once it's posted.

[MQSeries]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22

But, you see, in this day and age, what is important is what YOU want........regardless of the consequences to anyone around you. Can't wait for the pendulum to swing the heck back!

The ME generation didn't just start in 2004. Men (and Women)have always been selfish. The law of natural selection dictates that you do what is best for you. An action taking by an individual is almost always about "him, him, him, him".

C'mon AxelAnnie22. Don't tell me that every action you take, every decision you make, every breath that you take (isn't this a Police's song?) is all about the other person. Most of the time, it's all about you. Admit it. AxelAnnie22, you take actions and make decisions in your life that'll make AxelAnnie22 happy, that'll benefit AxelAnnie22, that make AxelAnie22 numero uno. Don't complain about people being selfish unless you can put yourself on the same pedestal as someone like Mother Theresa.

[Skatewind]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Black + white = grey. Everyone's forgetting there can actually be in-betweens too. One is either Mother Teresa or the Devil. Too funny. Which is Naomi?

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by Skatewind
Actually, no, "that kind of thinking" did not go out many years ago. There are still an awful lot of people who hold traditional views in 2004. I may not agree with AxelAnnie or such views myself, but it is an opinion & since when are different views ineligible for discussion on this board? Regarding skeletons in the closet, there are skeletons in the closet & then there's a front page press release by a skater on a website. Big difference between the two. I haven't read AxelAnnie's press release on the USFS website yet, although I'm quite sure people will be happy to discuss that one too once it's posted. Thank you. I was wondering the same thing myself. I would like to think that, although we may not agree, we can accept others opinions, and try to see the point of view.

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by MQSeries
The ME generation didn't just start in 2004. Men (and Women)have always been selfish. The law of natural selection dictates that you do what is best for you. An action taking by an individual is almost always about "him, him, him, him".

C'mon AxelAnnie22. Don't tell me that every action you take, every decision you make, every breath that you take (isn't this a Police's song?) is all about the other person. Most of the time, it's all about you. Admit it. AxelAnnie22, you take actions and make decisions in your life that'll make AxelAnnie22 happy, that'll benefit AxelAnnie22, that make AxelAnie22 numero uno. Don't complain about people being selfish unless you can put yourself on the same pedestal as someone like Mother Theresa. Silly, silly, silly. I thought we were discussing Naomi and Peter.

[butterfly]

Originally posted by MQSeries
The ME generation didn't just start in 2004. Men (and Women)have always been selfish. The law of natural selection dictates that you do what is best for you. An action taking by an individual is almost always about "him, him, him, him".

C'mon AxelAnnie22. Don't tell me that every action you take, every decision you make, every breath that you take (isn't this a Police's song?) is all about the other person. Most of the time, it's all about you. Admit it. AxelAnnie22, you take actions and make decisions in your life that'll make AxelAnnie22 happy, that'll benefit AxelAnnie22, that make AxelAnie22 numero uno. Don't complain about people being selfish unless you can put yourself on the same pedestal as someone like Mother Theresa. whew...you sound enraged by someone just talking about how we should be less selfish in our decision making. Don't get a stroke over it...yes, as human beings we are selfish and centered on our own comforts, but my experience has been that having a child, which is the most unique experience we encounter, makes you care more for someone else than yourself. Too bad we don't emphasize that when we are bringing up the me generation or the "if it feels good do it generation". Yes, it is 2004 and things really never change in that we only learn lessons of life by making mistakes.

[Smiley0084]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Silly, silly, silly. I thought we were discussing Naomi and Peter.

Yes, and they're humans that make mistakes just like you and me. Structure, commitment and stability DOESN'T always come from two parent house hold, although I'm sure that's the stereo type that's been drilled into your head. My grandmother raised 7 yes 7 children as a single mother, and they are ALL living happy and sucessful lives. But I guess it's "beaneath" you to actually consider another point of view"

[butterfly]

Originally posted by Smiley0084
Yes, and they're humans that make mistakes just like you and me. Structure, commitment and stability DOESN'T always come from two parent house hold, although I'm sure that's the stereo type that's been drilled into your head. My grandmother raised 7 yes 7 children as a single mother, and they are ALL living happy and sucessful lives. But I guess it's "beaneath" you to actually consider another point of view" Your grandmother was an extraordinary woman, and she surely had learned the meaning of selflessness. Yes, there are many single parents that do a great job and are successful. I know some of them. BUT... It is not the easiest road and for every success story you find I can find two failures. We are all just trying to make our way through, but the whole point of this is that Naomi had choices and many good ones...why get pregnant and with a married man. DUMB!!! Don't be so tough on AxelAnnie..it is just a discussion.

[MQSeries]

Originally posted by butterfly
whew...you sound enraged by someone just talking about how we should be less selfish in our decision making. Don't get a stroke over it...yes, as human beings we are selfish and centered on our own comforts, but my experience has been that having a child, which is the most unique experience we encounter, makes you care more for someone else than yourself. Too bad we don't emphasize that when we are bringing up the me generation or the "if it feels good do it generation". Yes, it is 2004 and things really never change in that we only learn lessons of life by making mistakes.

No,no. I'm not enraged. Believe me I do not need to take a chill pill :)

I just want to point out that it was hypocritical of Annie to criticize someone's else decision as selfish when she makes selfish decisions in her life too. There's nothing wrong with that but don't cast a stone on someone else's decision, because it wasn't you that made it.

I'm pretty sure if you were the one that got pregnant by a married man who loves you, you wouldn't say it was "DUMB". But man, because someone else did it, let cast our moral judgement on that person. Perhaps Naomi and her man planned this and want the baby.

[flugette]

And what about the wife of said married man? Is she to wish Naomi all the happiness in the world as well?

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by Smiley0084
Yes, and they're humans that make mistakes just like you and me. Structure, commitment and stability DOESN'T always come from two parent house hold, although I'm sure that's the stereo type that's been drilled into your head. My grandmother raised 7 yes 7 children as a single mother, and they are ALL living happy and sucessful lives. But I guess it's "beaneath" you to actually consider another point of view" As you can read in my post, of course single parents can raise children to become wonderful human beings. (I come from a home with two alcoholic parents, and a dad who died when I was 16---and I must say, I am very great LOL!.)

But if you speak with your grandmother, I am quite sure she will tell you that it wouldn't have been her first choice to do it the way she had to do it.

Sorry you are so upset about the conversation.

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by MQSeries
No,no. I'm not enraged. Believe me I do not need to take a chill pill :)

I just want to point out that it was hypocritical of Annie to criticize someone's else decision as selfish when she makes selfish decisions in her life too. There's nothing wrong with that but don't cast a stone on someone else's decision, because it wasn't you that made it.

I'm pretty sure if you were the one that got pregnant by a married man who loves you, you wouldn't say it was "DUMB". But man, because someone else did it, let cast our moral judgement on that person. Perhaps Naomi and her man planned this and want the baby. You cast some interesting aspersions my way, and I don't think we've met.

Hypocricy, btw means: The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Trust me, if I got pregnant by a married man (and I hate to mention it, but a married man who loves me wouldn't get me pregnant, because I wouldn't be "seeing" him.....but that is another story) I would think it was a lot worse than "DUMB". Stupid, idiotic, are a couple of words that come to mind.
And, I certainly wouldn't be proud and excited for heavens sake. Remember, aside from me, the married guy is somebody's husband.

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by flugette
And what about the wife of said married man? Is she to wish Naomi all the happiness in the world as well? She'll probably throw a baby shower :roll:

[MQSeries]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Remember, aside from me, the married guy is somebody's husband.

And remember that no one knows what Naomi, the boyfriend, and the wife are feeling. Perhaps the wife was, is already seeing someone else. Perhaps the wife and husband had already separated before Naomi entered the picture. Perhaps the wife and husband agreed to an open relationship. Perhaps the wife wanted Naomi in the picture for whatever reason. Perhaps the wife didn't care who the husband did on the side.... Why automatically assume that the wife is the wronged person in the picture? The point is no one oustide of those three really knows what's going on. So why take a hollier-than-thou attitude and cast your judgement on someone else's life decision when a) it doesn't affect you, and b) it's between adults.

[Smiley0084]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
As you can read in my post, of course single parents can raise children to become wonderful human beings. (I come from a home with two alcoholic parents, and a dad who died when I was 16---and I must say, I am very great LOL!.)

But if you speak with your grandmother, I am quite sure she will tell you that it wouldn't have been her first choice to do it the way she had to do it.

Sorry you are so upset about the conversation.

I can definetly see where your coming from, I would have been easier for my grandmother if she had help from a "man" but she also got a lot of love and support from other family members. As far as Naomi goes no doubt what she did wasn't the smartest move, (AFAIK Vlad seperated with his wife by the time Naomi came around) but all she can do know is hope for the best and learn from the situation. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.

[flippet]

Howdy.

Just popping in to keep an eye on this thread. In advance, let me remind y'all to stay civil, since this is obviously a hot topic.

I've removed the link to FSUniverse...let's let them have their conversation over there, and not bring it here, ok?

Thanks.

~flippet

[ceceB]

AxelAnnie,

Whether or not a child is born out of wedlock is irrelevant. I think that in the studies you're speaking of (unless I'm mistaken) the parents are usually not together, and often one isn't in the picture.

I do agree with you in that it's important to have both parents around and involved.

I'm older than my parents marriage. Does that mean they got "the order" screwed up? :roll:

I with Naomi and her boyfriend all the best.:)

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by ceceB
AxelAnnie,

Whether or not a child is born out of wedlock is irrelevant. I think that in the studies you're speaking of (unless I'm mistaken) the parents are usually not together, and often one isn't in the picture.

I do agree with you in that it's important to have both parents around and involved.

I'm older than my parents marriage. Does that mean they got "the order" screwed up? :roll:

I with Naomi and her boyfriend all the best.:) Sure - they got the order screwed up. They will probably tell you that they did. Doesn't make anybody bad. Whether or not a child is born out of wedlock is not irrelevant. The statistics show this. Children have the best opportunity when born into a family with a mom and dad who are, and stay married to each other. As I have said before, it doesn't mean that other things can't work, just that they aren't the best.

[kermit]

Gee, I didn't know that Jerry Faldwell was lerking around these posts.

[AxelAnnie22]

Originally posted by kermit
Gee, I didn't know that Jerry Faldwell was lerking around these posts. It is actually Falwell.

[Meredith]

I enjoyed watching their partnership blossom over the years and will miss them.

[ceceB]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
Sure - they got the order screwed up. They will probably tell you that they did. Doesn't make anybody bad. Whether or not a child is born out of wedlock is not irrelevant. The statistics show this. Children have the best opportunity when born into a family with a mom and dad who are, and stay married to each other. As I have said before, it doesn't mean that other things can't work, just that they aren't the best.

See, you're assuming that I was unplanned. I never said that. All I said was that I was born before my parents got married. They are very happy with the order of events in their lives. :roll:

I still say that children have the best opportunity when born into family with loving parents, regardless of whether they have actually been married. I also doubt that the statistics you're speaking of are referring to unmarried, yet loving parents who are involved, which was the case with my parents and could very well be the case with Naomi and her boyfriend.

You shouldn't make assumptions.

[what?meworry?]

Originally posted by butterfly
I totally agree with you that she has been irresponsible in her planning, but I have a theory. I believe that she is pregnant to escape skating. This was her only way out of skating competitively...

that was exactly the first thing i thought. two summers ago much of the gossip swirling around had to do with naomi just wanting to be with her boyfriend and not wanting to skate anymore. but i think wanting a baby was likely part of it.

i wonder why, given the length of time they've now been together, vlad hasn't gotten a divorce. i'm assuming he's happy about the upcoming blessed event.

too bad peter didn't bail back then. 20/20 hindsight.

[PAskate]

Can we get back to the topic - which is that they are no longer skating not Naomi's relationship and health status?

[kermit]

Originally posted by AxelAnnie22
It is actually Falwell.

Sorry Jer. I guess I'm not a fan if I can't spell your name correctly.

[what?meworry?]

Originally posted by PAskate
Can we get back to the topic - which is that they are no longer skating not Naomi's relationship and health status?

well, naomi cited her "health" issues as her reason for not competing despite swirling rumors TWO summers ago that she no longer wanted to skate and that peter was upset.

she failed to have any action taken to correct her "health" issues for TWO seasons.

she was rumored TWO summers ago that all she wanted to do was be with her boyfriend and not train.

with 20/20 hindsight, i'd say she has managed to achieve her desires!

meanwhile, peter is sitting there wondering what hit him, although i'd ask him, again, if i had the opportunity, why the heck he didn't bail TWO summers ago! the handwriting was on the wall back at dsc.

this is the heart of this topic, i believe.

[skates fan]

Well.. I sorta felt that their partnership was slowly coming to an end with her ankle injury at the US Nationals and Belbin and Agosto (as well as being so young) are making huge improvements in the world standings. I hope the best for them both. Hopefully he can find a new partner, or maybe do some coaching???

[Smiley0084]

Originally posted by what?meworry?
well, naomi cited her "health" issues as her reason for not competing despite swirling rumors TWO summers ago that she no longer wanted to skate and that peter was upset.

she failed to have any action taken to correct her "health" issues for TWO seasons.

she was rumored TWO summers ago that all she wanted to do was be with her boyfriend and not train.

with 20/20 hindsight, i'd say she has managed to achieve her desires!

meanwhile, peter is sitting there wondering what hit him, although i'd ask him, again, if i had the opportunity, why the heck he didn't bail TWO summers ago! the handwriting was on the wall back at dsc.

this is the heart of this topic, i believe.

"rumor" being the operative word. If things were really that bad Peter would have hit the road a long time ago. Bottom line is as much as you would like to know what's going on with Naomi and Peter, you probably never will, and shouldn't since it's none of your business anyway.