dcden
01-06-2004, 01:50 PM
I've recently been able to view skating performances from Worlds and Olympics in the 1980's for the first time, and I'm wondering if anyone knows of any places online where I can find out each skater's placement in the short program, long program, & compulsory figures. Skatabase has just the final standings, but doesn't give the total factored placings or the placings for each competition phase.
Some reasons why I'm looking for this: In the clip of Caryn Kadavy's 1987 LP, the commentators say that she was in a position to win the gold, which I was never aware of. Plus, I'd like to see if Witt could have won the 1986 title had she placed better in the SP that year. Plus, I'd like to analyze Zayak's storied comeback at 82 Worlds, etc. etc.
Anyway, it was enlightening to see that in the ladies' competition, most top skaters had triple toe and Salchow, and if you had a loop too then that was REALLY good. This was all still prior to Ito and Yamaguchi's rise in the late 80's and early 90's, of course, which then ushered in the need to have all the triples up to Lutz.
The men's programs were also simpler back in the day. David Santee seemed like he only did triple flip and toe, and double axels. Robin Cousins' performance in the 80 Olympics was also "easy" by today's standards. The Brians eventually changed all that.
Pairs programs were not that much simpler than today's programs. The side by side jumps have gotten harder over the years, but the other elements are comparable to today's.
Some reasons why I'm looking for this: In the clip of Caryn Kadavy's 1987 LP, the commentators say that she was in a position to win the gold, which I was never aware of. Plus, I'd like to see if Witt could have won the 1986 title had she placed better in the SP that year. Plus, I'd like to analyze Zayak's storied comeback at 82 Worlds, etc. etc.
Anyway, it was enlightening to see that in the ladies' competition, most top skaters had triple toe and Salchow, and if you had a loop too then that was REALLY good. This was all still prior to Ito and Yamaguchi's rise in the late 80's and early 90's, of course, which then ushered in the need to have all the triples up to Lutz.
The men's programs were also simpler back in the day. David Santee seemed like he only did triple flip and toe, and double axels. Robin Cousins' performance in the 80 Olympics was also "easy" by today's standards. The Brians eventually changed all that.
Pairs programs were not that much simpler than today's programs. The side by side jumps have gotten harder over the years, but the other elements are comparable to today's.