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Bryan
11-19-2003, 11:10 PM
We’ve had this discussion before, but I was bored today and I started going through my skating tape collection, so I thought I’d bring this topic up again.

So, how do you organize your tapes—by date, by competition, by skater? How many do you have? Do you tape and keep all competitions? How far does your collection go back? Do you have any special ways of distinguishing them, such as color-coding? And do you keep some sort of database on Microsoft Word or Excel to keep track of the contents?

As for me, I have 3 boxes of tapes. I haven’t counted them lately, but there are probably 100 or so. The vast majority of them are skating tapes, but there are a good number of gymnastics tapes too. My collection goes back to 1993 for skating and 1996 for gymnastics. For a while, I only taped and kept major competitions, such as Nationals, Worlds, and Olympics, but once ABC, ESPN, and Lifetime started providing complete coverage of the Grand Prix series, I started keeping those too (both SP/OD and LP/FD broadcasts). But, last season, I decided to cut back a little bit since I’m running out of room in my house, so I just made a “Best Of” compilation tape of the Grand Prix Series, and I limited that to only men and ladies LPs. As for this season, I’ve moved and no longer have cable, so I’m missing out on all the SP/ODs, pairs LP, and FD. :x :cry:

I apply the sticker labels on the tapes with generic titles, such as “2003 Worlds—Ladies SP, FD, Ladies LP.” I used to keep a Microsoft Word file of my tapes and their contents, but I haven’t updated it in a really long time. I also used to number/alphabetize my tapes; for example, 1993 Nationals is tape “A,” 1994 Nationals is tape “B.” But, I eventually ran out of letter stickers and stopped doing that.

I always tape in SLP (or EP) mode, and I try to skip commercials whenever I can. By skipping commercials, I can fit an extra 2-hour broadcast onto a tape (I can fit four 2-hour broadcasts on a 6-hour tape by skipping commercials, as opposed to three if I left the commercials in). If I’m not able to skip the commercials, I record the whole broadcast and then go back and dub a copy to get rid of commercials; I usually don’t do this with major competitions though, so as not to compromise the sound and picture quality.

Yup, so these days, I’ve decided to continue making “Best Of” tapes of the Grand Prix series and then keeping the GPF, Nationals, Europeans, 4CC, and Worlds broadcasts.

So how about all of you? I know I’m not the only obsessive tape freak here! ;)

Simka
11-20-2003, 11:46 AM
I've been taping skating since 1988. I never did keep complete competitions or shows but just the skaters/routines I liked. So I only have 40-something tapes that I have taped myself. I also have some commercial tapes and some tapes that I have gotten from a friend.

I just number my tapes, Skating 1, Skating 2, etc. Then I have a list for each tape, and I list the skater, music, and location on the tape. Then I have a sort of table of contents of all the tapes, and on that I list which competitions or shows are on each tape. So I can go to my TOC and look for, say, Worlds 97, and see that it is on tape #14. Then I can pull out tape #14 and check the list to see if I have, say, Michelle Kwan's "Taj Mahal" LP.

In the last few years, I have taped everything shown on TV in my area on 9-hour tapes, and in the summer I go through and copy to my "keeper" tapes the routines I want to keep. My personal criteria is each (of my favorite) skater's best/cleanest performance. In this way I can usually condense each season down to 2 or 3 6-hour tapes. I also tape everything in SLP, unless it's something like, say, Kurt Browning's Gotta Skate, which I tape on its own tape in SP.

gandalf
11-20-2003, 02:11 PM
What difference does taping in SP vs. SLP make?

Bryan
11-20-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by gandalf
What difference does taping in SP vs. SLP make?

On 6-hour tapes (T-120), you can fit 2 hours if you tape in SP, but 6 hours if you tape in SLP. The difference is the picture and sound quality--taping in SP is better. But, I don't notice the difference too much on my VCR, so I go ahead and use SLP to save space.

RizzleRed
11-20-2003, 03:10 PM
SP vs SLP (sometimes called EP)

There's a HUGE difference if you ever want to make copies of the tape. Even with originals, I can see quite a difference on my TV (32" Sony Wega). I'm now making DVD's and even with those I'll put a max of about 2 hours on a DVD even though I could put up to 6 hours. Highest quality on a DVD is 1 hour and I can't see any difference in quality up to about 2 hours, but a 6 hour DVD has a noticable difference in quality from a 2 hour.

Right now (as I convert my old tapes to DVD) I'm regretting that a lot of my older tapes are in SLP because the quality is so poor compared to the SP ones. 10 years from now I don't want to have the same regrets about my DVD's, so although it costs me more I'm making the DVD's in the highest quality I can.

Schmeck
11-23-2003, 05:58 AM
RizzleRed, what do you use to convert your tapes? I'd love to consolidate my 50+ VHS tapes to DVD, because they're taking up an entire bookcase. Maybe I should call it a tapecase, since there isn't any room for books right now, LOL!

Anyways, how much does a DVD burner go for, or do you do it on your computer, hooked up to a VCR?

My tapes are not organized at all - some of them have the dreaded TAPED OVER disease as well 8O . Most are labeled, but back when my kids were in pre-school, they'd play with the VCR from time to time. Biggest horror - having Barney taped over Nationals one year :x So I learned the hard way to do the tab on the case!

RizzleRed
11-23-2003, 11:13 AM
I have a stand-alone DVD Recorder hooked up to my TV/Cable Box/VCR. I have quite a complicated set-up in that I have 3 VCR's + the DVD Recorder :) I can make DVD's directly from the TV or Cable Box as well as from tapes. I can also make tapes of DVD's.

My recorder is a Toshiba RD-X2 that has an 80gig harddrive and makes DVD-R's & DVD-RAM. The hard drive holds 19-1/2 hours in highest quality and up to 50 hours or so in lowest quality -- I only use highest quality for the initial recording.

Unfortunately, I don't believe you can get the RD-X2 in Canada anymore. I got mine last November and it was one of only 20 that all of the London Drugs in Canada got. They weren't able to get anymore after the initial shipment. Vancouver only got 3 and they got mine from the Red Deer store. I think it had something to do with 'the powers that be' (who ever they are) objecting to the large hard drive and the possibility of people making pirated copies of commercial DVD's.

If you decide to get a DVD recorder -- I'd suggest that you don't even think about getting one that does't have a hard drive. I don't know how you'd do any editing at all.

Schmeck
11-24-2003, 05:17 AM
Thanks for the response! Editing? Now that's a dream of mine :D