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rubberducky
10-05-2003, 05:22 PM
Okay, does anyone have any idea who's going out of where for Pair & Dance??
icefreak
10-06-2003, 07:32 AM
ok, here are where i think the dance teams will be for sectionals.
NOVICE
EASTERNS
NEW ENGLAND
Donovan/Comee
Masten/Ramsdell
Summersett/Pennington
NORTH ATLANTICS
Kearns/Klein
Reed/Reed
Tobias/Warren
SOUTH ATLANTICS
Brashaw-Kreimer/Dail
Dail/?
Elliot/Thelan
Martin/Manion
McClellan/Fischl
Rosenthal/Taylor
Wyble/Reinhold
MIDWESTERNS
EASTERN GREAT LAKES
Ferrel/Deavors
Mafazy/Mafazy
Noel/Edelmann
Pennington/Varraux
Samuelson/Bates
UPPER GREAT LAKES
Bosely/Corona
SOUTHWESTERNS
Bradfield/Wilson
Chitwood/Chitwood
Goddard/McGee
Kim/Miller
Maguire/Hill
Seigen/Lilly
Weaver/Clavey
Hennessy/Chaseman
PACIFICS
NORTHWEST PACIFICS
Palmer/Stucke
Taylor/Toman
CENTRAL PACIFICS
Cynders/Ng
Koob-Doody/Antonelli
Lazarowitz/Jarmuth
SOUTHWEST PACIFICS
Calhoun/Miller
Lauten/Rabe
VonZabern/Marquardt
JUNIOR
EASTERNS
Copely/Wensel
Devins/O’Keefe
Hockel/Hurych
Matthews/Zavozine
McCullough/Dear
Sanders/Brown
Scott/Clark
Whetstone/Cohen
MIDWESTERNS
Cepican/Lichtor
Chrien/Gordon
D’Agostini/McDonough
Davis/White
Frisch/Hill
Pratt/Gilles
Prossak/McCrary
Scheumann/Koleto
PACIFICS
Donowick/Ungar
Mallory/Holdberg
Reyes/Wright
Solomon/Smith
armchairsk8r
10-06-2003, 07:48 AM
Unlike the Juniors the Novices have to compete Regionals first so their will only be 12 teams at easterns. I know Caitlin Dail and her new parner will be competing out of South Atlantics. I believe Bosley/Corona are going out of the UGL.Kempf/Cook are skating intermediate.
jenlyon60
10-06-2003, 07:50 AM
Add Farrell/Deavor (new team) to Mids in Novice Dance
rubberducky
10-06-2003, 10:00 AM
I think Elliot/Thelan are going out of Easterns, add Cynders/Ng and Lauten/ Rabe to Pacifics.
Trillian
10-06-2003, 11:55 AM
FWIW, I can confirm that Weaver & Clavey will be skating out of Mids by way of Southwesterns.
armchairsk8r
10-06-2003, 02:16 PM
I think Donovan/Comee are going out of Easterns.It list 6 novice dance teams at South Atlantics but no names.
???? Possibilities:
1. Bradshaw-Kreimer/Dail
2. Dail/ ?
3.Martin/Manion
4.McClellan/Fischl
5.Pennington/Varraux
6.Rosenthal/Taylor
7.Wyble/ Reinhold
8.Elliot/Thelan
One other note Scarincio/Morrow are no longer together.
WeBeEducated
10-06-2003, 03:30 PM
For Novice Dance if there are 4 or fewer in your region a team can elect to go straight to sectionals if the team marked this on their regionals forms.
IceDanceSk8er
10-06-2003, 08:08 PM
Add to the Novice teams out of Easterns the team of Jared Ramsdell and Maddy Masten from Skating Club of Boston. jared was 5th last season with holly nadeau....Holly is from Minnesota and just finished a year with Disney If you saw the pix in International figure Skating mag of Belle... that's Maddy. BTW..Do Max & Morgan really have to skate sectionals at Jr. or do they get a bye?
Trillian
10-06-2003, 08:23 PM
In theory I think Morgan and Max would have to do Easterns--IIRC the defending national champions only get a bye in seniors, but I might be wrong. Might not matter--if they make the JGP Final, they get a bye regardless.
rubberducky
10-07-2003, 03:24 PM
Ramsdale/Masten...aren't they in their 20's?? No JGP eligibility for this team if they have a good placement? Also, don't you have to sit out a year if you do a professional skating job unless it is sanctioned by USFSA. If she did Disney on Ice, how could she be elible to skate this year as an amatuer??
IceDanceSk8er
10-07-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by rubberducky
Ramsdale/Masten...aren't they in their 20's?? No JGP eligibility for this team if they have a good placement? Also, don't you have to sit out a year if you do a professional skating job unless it is sanctioned by USFSA. If she did Disney on Ice, how could she be elible to skate this year as an amatuer??
Do you think that their coaches - Barret Brown and Tom Lescenski - would have them skate in a qualifying competition if they weren't eligible? Do you think the USFSA would allow them to skate if they were ineligible?
They are eligible.
Dave Amorde
10-07-2003, 06:02 PM
Von Zabern/Marquardt are Southwest Pacific.
rubberducky
10-08-2003, 12:12 AM
"Do you think that their coaches - Barret Brown and Tom Lescenski - would have them skate in a qualifying competition if they weren't eligible? Do you think the USFSA would allow them to skate if they were ineligible?"
well rip my head off and slap me silly! Sorry, I don't know all of the dynamics of who coaches who in Boston or all the ins & outs of elegibility...it was just a question!:roll:
drmsk8r
10-08-2003, 12:20 AM
By the way VonZabern & Marquardt's free dance is awesome. They should do great at Nationals.
drmsk8r
10-08-2003, 12:23 AM
Southwest Pacific has 4 novice pairs:
Butler/Jacobsen
Aaron/Curzon
Tossey/Judt
New partner/Burgess
WeBeEducated
10-08-2003, 01:21 PM
Add MAFAZY/MAFAZY to Mids-Novice Dance
Icesk8dance
10-08-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by rubberducky
Ramsdale/Masten...aren't they in their 20's?? No JGP eligibility for this team if they have a good placement? Also, don't you have to sit out a year if you do a professional skating job unless it is sanctioned by USFSA. If she did Disney on Ice, how could she be elible to skate this year as an amatuer??
Fair question......I'm curious, does anyone know if the Disney on Ice shows are sanctioned by the USFSA?
IceDanceSk8er
10-08-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by rubberducky
well rip my head off and slap me silly!... [/B]
How far away are you from Boston? :twisted:
rubberducky
10-08-2003, 10:10 PM
Jeez, IceDanceSk8r, I am not in to bashing kids...I was joking about the slap thing..but if you feel the need, you'll need a long arm and good back hand to reach Chicago! :) I should have completed my thought processes on the sanction thing...I was thinking along the lines of Champions - vs - Stars on Ice. Champions is sanctioned so the skater's maintain their eligibility, but "Stars" is not...remember the Todd Eldredge thing... so that was where I was going with that. I also re -read your post, maybe it doesn't even come in to play with Ramsdale/Masten as you said Masten's first name was Maddy, but then you mention Holly in Disney on Ice.
IceDanceSk8er
10-08-2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by rubberducky
Jeez, IceDanceSk8r, I am not in to bashing kids...I was joking about the slap thing..but if you feel the need, you'll need a long arm and good back hand to reach Chicago! :) I should have completed my thought processes on the sanction thing...I was thinking along the lines of Champions - vs - Stars on Ice. Champions is sanctioned so the skater's maintain their eligibility, but "Stars" is not...remember the Todd Eldredge thing... so that was where I was going with that. I also re -read your post, maybe it doesn't even come in to play with Ramsdale/Masten as you said Masten's first name was Maddy, but then you mention Holly in Disney on Ice.
rubberducky...I'm having fun with you. I know you're not bashing the kids...you asked a legitimate question. Oddly enough, I'm originally from Chicago. Care to give my arm directions << that's a joke >>
KarenR
10-08-2003, 10:23 PM
I love watching this team...but heard they weren't going to be skating this year. Who is coaching them?
Skatewind
10-09-2003, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Icesk8dance
Fair question......I'm curious, does anyone know if the Disney on Ice shows are sanctioned by the USFSA?
The ice show itself does not always have to be sanctioned by USFSA if they have pre-approved a contract or ESCA for the skater.
IceDanceSk8er
10-09-2003, 09:08 AM
Maddy is the skater who was in Disney and she did , indeed, establish her eligability by being reinstated a number of months ago. I'm not sure about the process, but as long as the result is appropriate...that's what's important, anyway. They are a very nice looking team. Her presence on the ice is remarkable. They both have that tall, lean leggy look with Jared being about 6' tall and Maddy about 5'6". I'm so glad Jared found a partner that not only looks good with him, but matches his style. There is going to be quite a battle at Novice this year, I don't envy the judges..
rubberducky
10-09-2003, 02:56 PM
We recently moved there from Calif....after all of the ice dance teams left Chicago! My kid was a F/S but the gossip is much better in pairs & dance! ha ha
icefreak
10-10-2003, 06:21 AM
Does anyone know if K-D/A are going pacifics or easterns?
WeBeEducated
10-10-2003, 03:13 PM
Pennington/Varraux have switched to EGL????
I find this comical that so many of the Novice teams are playing regionals roulette.
Especially guilty of this are the teams training on the East Coast it seems. They scatter to far flung regions(on paper) every season.
Whatever happened to believing in your own talent and giving it an honest effort in the area in which you actually live and train?:roll:
armchairsk8r
10-10-2003, 07:05 PM
Penningtin/Varraux are not EGL.
Thank goodness the teams that train on the east coast have "scattered to the far flung regions". Do you realize that 19 of the 35 novice teams train on the east coast.What a wide range of talent to narrow down.What kind of talent pool would you have to choice from at nationals if they didn't? Believe in your talent or look at the odds.What do you think the odds are that the top skaters at nationals will have trained on the east coast?
WeBeEducated
10-11-2003, 07:07 AM
Well, last year 3 of the 4 top teams at nationals (novice) were from Mids,not the East Coast, and of those top 4 teams only one girl had received most of her training on the East coast(Meghan).
All the others had received most or all of their training in the Midwest from Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, and Colorado.
Pratt and Giles knew they didnt need to play games...they were good enough to win at Mids, which was obviously the most difficult section last year.
I admire that kind of confidence.
icefreak
10-11-2003, 09:42 AM
Well, only Von Zabern/Marquardt and Calhoun/Miller are at southwest pacifics. does anyone one know where the other teams are competing? or have they broken up? and as to the changing of regions, this has gone on for years. while it does make it difficult for the rest of us to figure out where everyone is competing, it does spread out the talent pool. lets say team A is out of easterns. now they know that there are 3 teams who they can definitely not beat, and 2 other teams that they will be battling for 4th. yet if they skate out of pacifics, they have a chance to win and definitely qualify for nationals. which section would you skate out of? and as a spectator wouldn't you rather see all the best teams at nationals rather than at sectionals.
iredancerchick
10-11-2003, 01:56 PM
The only other team that normaly skates out in the Southwest Pacific region is Hillary and Cory and they are competing out of Southwesterns. Three teams signed up for SWP and the reason the other team did not compete was because they checked off no if there where 4 or less skaters to compete, that team is Lauten and his new partner.
WeBeEducated
10-11-2003, 06:01 PM
Who are Hillary and Cory?
I saw Jonathon Lauten and his new partner compete in open compulsories at Indy. They looked very nice together.
Very sweet family.
WeBeEducated
10-11-2003, 06:11 PM
If only 3 novice dance teams signed up for SWP then K-D/A must be doing Easterns this year instead of Pacifics as they did last year.
I believe K-d would be out of central pacifice not sw pacific
iredancerchick
10-12-2003, 12:11 AM
I'm sorry, I couldn't remember the last names of that team when i wrote that reply, I just remembered their names are Hillary Bradfield Corey Wilson.
Sk8nglvr
10-13-2003, 10:39 AM
I just returned home from the wonderful Bay Area Ice Dance Weekend in San Jose, California and wanted to report on a Novice dance team that made such a lovely impression on all of us in attendance.... Susanne Lazarowitz and Nathan Jarmuth. Over the course of the weekend we had the opportunity to see exhibitions of these kid's compulsories and freedance. So often we only get to see "competitors" in competition venues.... It was a pleasure to actually get to know this team and not only enjoy their beautiful skating but get to know them as great kids who were a delight to observe and be around.
My friends and I were particularly impressed with their European waltz.... I dont think I have ever see better extensions, matching and closeness, performed on this dance. They genuinely gave us the feeling that they were performing in a crystal chandeliered ballroom! Their Paso Doble was sharp and crisp with good ice coverage and charisma and I was surprised at the quality of their cross roll sequence.... for once a team that steps onto the correct outside edges rather then flats to shallow edges!
The highlight however was their freedance exhibition on Sunday. These kids have so much fun with an audience... The program is set to music from "James Bond" soundtracks and not only was entertaining choreographically but showed clever and difficult footwork steps with ever changing positions and alot of speed over the ice in addition to some eyecatching lifts. They really "sell" their skating with expression and enthusiasm that I havent seen in a team at this level before.... Wow, what a future they have!
We wish them the very best at the Pacific Coast Sectionals.... Susanne and Nathan....Thanks.... You really added so much to our Dance Weekend.... you have alot of fans out here now!!!!:D :D :D
WeBeEducated
10-14-2003, 10:12 AM
What happened to Isabel Ellimon and Dimitry Serebrinuk(not sure of the spelling)in Novice dance?
I love this team and hope they are still competing.
Also, I heard that Wyble/Reinhold were doing Intermediate when I saw them at Indy. Are you sure they are doing Novice?
JKlink
10-15-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Sk8nglvr
I just returned home from the wonderful Bay Area Ice Dance Weekend in San Jose, California and wanted to report on a Novice dance team that made such a lovely impression on all of us in attendance.... Susanne Lazarowitz and Nathan Jarmuth. In the past, some of Sergei Ponomarenko's dance teams have done exhibitions at this event, were any of them there this year?
armchairsk8r
10-21-2003, 07:16 AM
With some of the regionals completed, do we have a better idea who is going to be in what section?
what?meworry?
10-22-2003, 07:58 PM
not necessarily. don't forget that if there are 4 or fewer competitors, any of them may choose not to compete. every region without a dance or pairs competition could have up to 4 teams, and regions with only 2 (like swp) could still have 4 totally.
in fact i was just checking on the relative accuracy of the old "big list" of probable novice dance teams. it looks as though swp had at least one "no show." it will be interesting to see how many actually show up in sw, one of the other "big regionals" in theory for dance.
scooter133
10-22-2003, 09:38 PM
What about Amanda Harris & David Sanders for junior pairs at Midwesterns? Are they still skating together or are they only doing singles?
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