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supersk8er

10-02-2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by blades
8-)

perhaps switcing to decaf would help...:roll:

Haha! Perhaps? MOST DEFINTITELY! Clearly this person dosed up like crazy on caffiene before writing their post, because there's no other explanation...Sure, everyone makes mistakes, but it's not our job to defend someone just because he's loved in the skating world...Drinking and driving is one of the worst kind of crimes, and it's unforgivable!

Just think, nursegal, he could have killed your sister, or your Mom or your Dad...Would you be quite so sympathetic to your beloved-Alexei if that were to have happened? I think it's an outrage if he doesn't deserve penalties...Although I'm sure he did or has...I haven't really been keeping up with the story...:oops:

pairs_guy

10-02-2003, 02:58 PM

supersk8er that is a possible situation but it didn't happen, don't blame the kid for still loving her favorite skater......he was drinking and driving he got pulled over end of story no one was hurt. It's not the end of the world....revoke his liscence and get on with it. We shouldn't changed the way we see him now just because of one incidence.....he accomplished alot in the skating world now it will allbe forgotten because he got pulled over.....alot more serious accidents happen with drinking and driving. Don't condem him because he's a "celebrity". He's human too.....another proof that everyone's mentality to being a superstar = perfection :roll:

md2be

10-02-2003, 03:07 PM

FOr many who drink and drive, that isnt the end of the story...they say "Hey I didnt hurt anyone last time I did this...I must be a good drunk driver! Im probably not going to this time either." Ive heard it many, many times (from when I was in college at the #1 party school in the nation).

No one ever said Alexei shouldnt skate or that this damages his skating abilities in any way.....HOWEVER it SURE does make me lose a lot of respect for him and I certainly dont enjoy watching him as much now!

butterfly

10-02-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by nursegal
to all u judgemental IDIOTS, its very easy to criticize someone, EVERYONE makes mistakes, and EVERYONE has atleast 1 skeleton. Thank God no one ESPECIALLY alexei was injured. Just incase ya'll havent heard, "TO ERR IS HUMAN......FORGIVE DIVINE" I support alexei 100% as should everyone. He needs our love and support now more than ever!!!! I find it hard to believe that you are an adult AND a nurse with a comment like this. We do make judgments in this chatroom regarding many issues. Of course we hope that Yagudin will continue to skate and that he will also learn a lesson from this experience. He was lucky that he didn't ruin his life and possibly other innocent drivers. As a nurse you must have been in the emergency room when drunk driving accident victims have arrived.

TygerTyger

10-02-2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by blades
8-)

no...i think it's a young teenager...

... from the bible belt.

Poohsk8s2

10-02-2003, 06:06 PM

Hey Nursegal, with all of your enthusiasm perhaps y ou could channel your energy towards volunteering. Let me suggest a rehab facility... rehab for young quadrapelegics or TBI's... find out how they came to have such horrible, life altering injuries and I guarantee that you will find more than half involved drinking and driving.

Enjoy Alexi on the ice, but keep him off of my roads... and they are MY roads too!

Keely

10-02-2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by nursegal
to all u judgemental IDIOTS, its very easy to criticize someone, EVERYONE makes mistakes, and EVERYONE has atleast 1 skeleton. Thank God no one ESPECIALLY alexei was injured. Just incase ya'll havent heard, "TO ERR IS HUMAN......FORGIVE DIVINE" I support alexei 100% as should everyone. He needs our love and support now more than ever!!!!

Hmmm.... I think you're the perfect match for Alexei. And someone with such fanatical devotion should get an opportunity to love and support him in person.

I suggest forwarding a copy to of this to his agents on perfumed stationary. Then sit back and wait for that phone call! :)

supersk8er

10-02-2003, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by pairs_guy
supersk8er that is a possible situation but it didn't happen, don't blame the kid for still loving her favorite skater......he was drinking and driving he got pulled over end of story no one was hurt. It's not the end of the world....revoke his liscence and get on with it. We shouldn't changed the way we see him now just because of one incidence.....he accomplished alot in the skating world now it will allbe forgotten because he got pulled over.....alot more serious accidents happen with drinking and driving. Don't condem him because he's a "celebrity". He's human too.....another proof that everyone's mentality to being a superstar = perfection :roll:

The fact that it didn't happen doesn't mean it couldn't. I don't care if the kid still loves her favorite SKATER, but there's no way he can be commended at the moment. "We shouldn't change the way we see him now just because of one incident"? No? If you haven't lost a little bit of respect for him, then I don't think you understand the seriousness of the situation. He didn't just get pulled over"...He put everyone that was on the road in danger because of his irresponsiblity and reckless driving. Do you think it was just a road block? No...He was speeding and driving recklessly.

duane

10-03-2003, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by nursegal
long live alexei

You want Alexei to live long? Well, drinking and driving is not the way to do so.

Schmeck

10-03-2003, 05:53 AM

Perhaps it's Alexei's attitude towards his mistakes that gets him 'villified'. He certainly hasn't sounded sorry in any of the articles I've read. It's more like 'no big deal, people do it all the time'.

A 19 yr old girl just got killed in a drunk driving accident near my parents' home. Her boyfriend is being charged with DUI, etc. This was not the first time he was arrested for driving offenses. My mother drove by the accident scene on her way to work yesterday morning. The girls' 14 yr old sister was sitting there in the rain, at 6:00 AM, wrapped in a white blanket, holding a burning candle. Many other candles were lit around her. Perhaps Alexei should have that image in his mind next time he decides to drink and drive.

Schmeck

Mistyeyed

10-03-2003, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by blades
8-)

perhaps switcing to decaf would help...:roll:

I don't even know what happened to A/but this first reply cracked me up. OMG:P (shame on you)

Mistyeyed

10-03-2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by pairs_guy
supersk8er that is a possible situation but it didn't happen, don't blame the kid for still loving her favorite skater......he was drinking and driving he got pulled over end of story no one was hurt. It's not the end of the world....revoke his liscence and get on with it. We shouldn't changed the way we see him now just because of one incidence.....he accomplished alot in the skating world now it will allbe forgotten because he got pulled over.....alot more serious accidents happen with drinking and driving. Don't condem him because he's a "celebrity". He's human too.....another proof that everyone's mentality to being a superstar = perfection :roll:

OKAY! So maybe we should give you and the original poster bumper stickers for your car that reads "SOMEONE THAT I LOVE WAS KILLED
BY A DRUNK DRIVE!"

Think about that. You don't just get over that friend by revoking a persons license. :evil:

muggie

10-03-2003, 12:18 PM

I think drunk driving is a choice, not a mistake. I've never heard of anyone accidentally becoming drunk. You'd think that people with an image and lots of money to protect would be a little more proactive in seeking a designated driver if they're goning to have a night on the town.

If people are being a bit harsh/judgemental....this is the second time Alexei has had major problems related to alcohol, so it may be justified. Sounds to me like he needs some help. For someone so young and talented, there ought to be better things he could find to occupy his time than drinking.

proam

10-03-2003, 12:59 PM

It is his cavalier attitude about the DUI, according to his last press interview that is so objectionable.
Yags can deny all he wants, and he seemingly forgets about his past bad behaviors, one involving alcohol.
Yes, everybody makes mistakes, but you are supposed to learn from your mistake, which he did not do in this case.

And his fans saying his mug shots are cute and “Hot” :roll: is juvenile and disgusting - save those comments for publicity photos.

Blade1

10-03-2003, 01:06 PM

Its funny "nursegal" has started this thread, but hasn't yet come out to defend what he/she had to say. I say "another troll"

Sing_Alto

10-03-2003, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by duane
You want Alexei to live long? Well, drinking and driving is not the way to do so.

That's what I was thinking. Kind of ironic that the subject of this thread is "long live Alexei". I have a better title for this thread, how about, "long live the other drivers Alexei encounters when he chooses to get behind the wheel sloshed?" :roll:

singerskates

10-03-2003, 09:05 PM

Alexie, did have a wake up call from his last drinking experience. he had the media hounding him for his past drinking. He's switched to soda water instead of alcohol. Alexie no longer drinks. Glad Alexie woke up and started to get high on life.

JAAZZ

10-03-2003, 11:31 PM

Perhaps the people who found his mug shot "hot" would be the types who correspond with/marry inmates. It always amazes me the way that some women will romanticize crime and think that somehow the perp is sexy. Very scary.

nursegal

10-03-2003, 11:40 PM

i wonder how many skeletons all you people in glass houses have, NO I AM NOT A YOUNG KID, Have any of u people ever lived in a repressed country like he has??? or like Oksana has??? they come here with total freedom and have difficulty getting accustomed. Rehab ok, i think that would be fair, to persecute him like u all are doing YA'LL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!

jp1andOnly

10-04-2003, 12:05 AM

So are we to forgive someone because they lived in a repressed country? I think thats a very lame excuse. I do agree people are dumping very heavily on him however by creating this thread you probably realized people would be pissed off. Yes, Alexei needs to be punished whatever the judge sees fit. He should not be let off because he's from another country or because he's someone famous. And on the other hand, because he is famous we shouldn't look at this mistake as something that is the worst thing in the world. Yes, it was pretty dumb on his part but he made a mistake. And no one is perfect. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson and pay his debt back to society and move on from this experience. I have a question to all the people who basically said they had lost all respect for him. Have you lost respect from your friends, family, and loved ones because they drove home after drinking? I know it happens. I've yelled at my dad for driving home after a few beers, but have I lost respect for him?..NO. So if you lost respect for Alexei because he did drink and drive than you must lose respect for all people who drink and drive even if they are a parent. And if you say "thats not true" than you are being a hypocrite.

Let's stop the bickering and focus on ways people in the community can prevent drinking and driving.

blades

10-04-2003, 12:21 AM

8-)

does living in a repressed marriage count as an excuse???...

i'm sooooo not ashamed!...oh...wait...letmegetitrightontheemphasi s: "I'M SOOOOO NOT ASHAMED!!!"...

there...heeey!...i feel better now...;)

supersk8er

10-04-2003, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by jp1andOnly
I have a question to all the people who basically said they had lost all respect for him. Have you lost respect from your friends, family, and loved ones because they drove home after drinking? I know it happens. I've yelled at my dad for driving home after a few beers, but have I lost respect for him?..NO. So if you lost respect for Alexei because he did drink and drive than you must lose respect for all people who drink and drive even if they are a parent. And if you say "thats not true" than you are being a hypocrite.

I completely agree...And I remember when I found out that my Mom drove home after a night of drinking, I didn't talk to her for a full day...But I have forgiven, of course, because it was years ago. However, I do think that people who are in the public eye have a responsibility to...uhm...not...drink and drive? I know I'm being a hypocrite...And I know it's stupid, because we should all be treated the same, but as someone who a lot of people look up to, I think he made a really big mistake for his career. I mean, after Gordon Campbell was charged with drinking and driving...There was an outcry in British Columbia, because he is our premiere...And is suppose to represent a sense of responsibility...However, he never showed responsibility in the past, so my respect for him never lowered, because it was at the lowest of the low anyways.

Annes

10-04-2003, 12:33 PM

However, he never showed responsibility in the past, so my respect for him never lowered, because it was at the lowest of the low anyways.

Yup. What is it in BC that makes such bizarre premiers? I met the NDP guy who took over and he seemed nice but of course he did not last through the next election...

Orable

10-04-2003, 01:40 PM

*Russia* is what you consider a repressed country??? :lol:

lemme give you a newsflash: the Soviet Union broke up a loooooong time ago! (actually, ten years ago) and the repression of Stalin was ended, apologized for and swept under Khruschev's cornfields in the 1960s. Alexei grew up in a USSR of perestroika and glasnost, and lived most of his life in Russia...yes it was/is deeply economically depressed, sham capitalism abounded, with a nascent democratic system. But to call Russia repressed? hehe...

maybe if he were from Saudi Arabia???

just my opiiiiinion!

Livin on Ice

10-05-2003, 09:40 AM

Ok i sometimes think that all the fame and fortune gets to peoples head! I'm not one that keeps up to date on every celebrity, and sports hero, but i can tell you that i have heard quite a few drinking and driving stories over the last year from celebrities, etc. It's one thing to have fame and fortune, But another abuse it. The LAWS AND RULES are the same for every human on this planet! Don't matter who you are.
If it was Alexei, the prime minister, or my best friend, it doesn't matter!!!!

Livin on Ice

10-05-2003, 09:43 AM

by my reply i ain't saying he shouldn't be forgiven either. But sometimes you gotta learn the hard way! Just glad that nobdy came out injured or dead! A tragity is the last thing that anyone needs.

Please use your head, we all look up to you very much! Hopefully see yah this season Alexei.

bbtano

10-05-2003, 12:10 PM

If I understand correctly, some people can drink just one or two beers and get drunk, while other people have to drink a six pack or more to even get a buzz.

My understanding of the articles I've read on Alexei's situation is that he was pulled over for speeding and making an unsafe lane change. (Apparently, he didn't signal when he changed lanes....about 80% of the people on the road in my city do both of those things on a regular basis.)
I believe they realized after they pulled him over that he had been drinking.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't have consequences....of course, he should. He should be treated the same as anyone else who got pulled over for the same things. But some people are acting like he has been pulled over repeatedly for drinking and driving or that he was deliberately being reckless.....trying to endanger himself or others. It's his first offense (isn't it?) and he's just a human, who is not perfect (like the rest of us.) I don't think it's necessary to rake him over the coals.

pairs_guy

10-05-2003, 10:47 PM

ITA with bbtano. Everyone who drives in this forum can't honestly say they never drove over the speed limit or never forgot to put your signal light on. It doesn't erase the fact that he was drinking and driving.....but common if that's reckless driving then why isn't 75% of the world pulled over everyday. Just leave it as it is....

dmr65

10-06-2003, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by jp1andOnly
So are we to forgive someone because they lived in a repressed country? I think thats a very lame excuse. I do agree people are dumping very heavily on him however by creating this thread you probably realized people would be pissed off. Yes, Alexei needs to be punished whatever the judge sees fit. He should not be let off because he's from another country or because he's someone famous. And on the other hand, because he is famous we shouldn't look at this mistake as something that is the worst thing in the world. Yes, it was pretty dumb on his part but he made a mistake. And no one is perfect. Hopefully he'll learn his lesson and pay his debt back to society and move on from this experience. I have a question to all the people who basically said they had lost all respect for him. Have you lost respect from your friends, family, and loved ones because they drove home after drinking? I know it happens. I've yelled at my dad for driving home after a few beers, but have I lost respect for him?..NO. So if you lost respect for Alexei because he did drink and drive than you must lose respect for all people who drink and drive even if they are a parent. And if you say "thats not true" than you are being a hypocrite.

Hmmmm Yes, there are some who will lose respect for a drinking and driving parent or love one.. (or you could mean that disrespect as saying, I Do Not Agree With What You Have done or Are Doing) It does not mean you don't love them, you just don't have respect for what they have done or continue to do...

On the skater or skaters subject of drinking and drinking, doing unlawful things... I have my favorites, and have been told things about them that I could and could not believe.. I still enjoy them, will defend them as skaters but I do not respect some of the dark things I am aware of that they do...

So do we say, I respect you and so do it again.. Or, I do not have resepct for what you do or did, but I still love you. I speak as a sister of two 100% alcoholic siblings who do not see themselves as alcoholics... One goes to work with the smell on his breath, he can't seem to function anymore without it. These actions can't be respect/agreed on.. they are to the pont they say and do things that can't be respected, such as one attending his own mother's funeral tipsy with a pop bottle full of alcohol in hand, from church to burial ground.. I love them dearly, they are my siblings, but I do not respect or agree with their drinking.. I never had an alcoholic or drunk parent. I love my mother dearly to the point I could kiss the ground she walks on.. But, she has subjected herself to things I do not agree on, but I love her to death.. As some say, she is my heart...

If it were not alcohol, but unsafe sex with 1,000 a people should or can that be respected? Again, unsafe But I guess it depends on how each views it..

Denise..

sk8pics

10-06-2003, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by bbtano
If I understand correctly, some people can drink just one or two beers and get drunk, while other people have to drink a six pack or more to even get a buzz.

My understanding of the articles I've read on Alexei's situation is that he was pulled over for speeding and making an unsafe lane change. (Apparently, he didn't signal when he changed lanes....about 80% of the people on the road in my city do both of those things on a regular basis.)

Well, I'm not sure if what you write is quite correct when you use the phrase "get drunk" or "get a buzz." I think there is a difference in how well some people tolerate alcohol and how well they function with alcohol in their system, but I suspect, given equivalent body size for two men, their blood alcohol level would be similar at similar alcohol consumption. So the first person may not be able to function at all after 2 beers while the second person can, but their blood alcohol content may be the same.

As far as Alexei's lane changing offense, I believe he crossed a double yellow line. I don't think that 80% of the drivers do that every day, or I certainly hope not! Because that's a lot more serious than not signaling.

Pat

Keely

10-06-2003, 07:45 AM

He's not from a repressed country, he's from an alcoholic country ;)

blades

10-06-2003, 08:54 AM

8-)

"but...you don't understand...we russians are strong...alcohol doesn't affect us like other peoples..."

(quote [from memory] of oksana on oprah after she'd "treed" her car...)

loveskating

10-06-2003, 09:36 AM

Hello Nursegal:

I understand your anger...we humans tend to pounce on people who have real troubles, probably in an effort to pretend that the same could never happen to us and to distance ourselves from trouble. It is called "kick them when they are down."

I don't know if Yagudin has a drinking problem or not...I know numerous kids in my high school who did not have a drinking problem would nevertheless get in trouble because the macho thing to do with their buddies was to drink and drive...others however, a smaller number, who got into trouble similarly did have a real drinking problem.

I didn't post previously because I just don't know the facts and now is not the time for someone from a distance to lecture Yags; however, IF our Alexi has a drinking problem, then it is really, really important that he get some help, some therapy...that is the most loving, helpful thing one can say to someone with a drinking problem, for same destroys not only the life of the drinker, but everyone around them...and nowadays, one can truly heal from such a problem and consequently have a much happier, productive life and be a positive influence on those around them.

md2be

10-06-2003, 10:55 AM

yes, I do lose respect for loved ones who drink and drive. It is a "tarnish" that I will never get over. Luckily, no one in my family drinks. But past boyfriends have certainly lost respect and trust from me by being stupid and driving drunk.

I always think of it this way: If I were to die by drinking and driving, I would completely embarass myself, my family, and everyone would remember me as that dumb fool who drank and drove. My life would be a disappointment and all the great things I have accomplished would be undermined by the fact that I was stupid enough to not call a taxi.

Well, wait....I wouldnt feel like a fool...Id be dead.

suse3

10-06-2003, 09:50 PM

I think you should all fill your life with something else.

I'm tired of going on web sites and hearing about this.
It's over and done and know one here can affect this in anyway by talking about it.
The law, is doing what it is supposed to do. Alexei, will experience ramifications.

If you are passionate about this, then I think it is a good suggestion that you go volunteer out there in the community you live because that is how you will make a difference.
And
Before anyone decides to attack me, my sister died in a car accident in 1980 where alcohol and bad road conditions where the reason.

I'm not condoning drinking and driving and as you have heard, I have some first hand experience with the topic, but anger and blaming never helped anyone.

I'm thankful every time I hear that someone who has been drinking and driving arrives home safely, it gives them the opportunity to live to learn the danger they put everyone in and hopefully not to repeat.
That would be my hope with this story too!
Now lets find something more pleasant to talk about.

duane

10-06-2003, 10:49 PM

All this talk about Yagudin being "raked over the coals" and people "dumping very heavily" on him is simply not true. Read the original thread about his arrest. Most of the posts are very sympathetic, expressing hope that Yagudin overcomes his problem. Some of the posts are beyond being sympathetic, and seem to suggest that drinking and driving is no big deal; that everyone does it. This is what angers some people: not Yagudin personally, but the "oh, everyone has done it; not a big deal" attitude that some have taken.

And suse3,
Your "you should all fill your life with something else" comment was uncalled for. This is a figure skating discussion board, and surely Yagudin's DUI arrest will be talked about.

Tigger

10-07-2003, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by singerskates
Alexie, did have a wake up call from his last drinking experience. he had the media hounding him for his past drinking. He's switched to soda water instead of alcohol. Alexie no longer drinks. Glad Alexie woke up and started to get high on life.

Well, that glass of red wine I saw in Alexei's hand at the Reception after the Skate The Nation show in Sudbury last year certainly wasn't non alcoholic.

I'm grateful Alexei didn't hurt anyone, but I still can't believe he was that stupid. I've seen too many people I love affected, hurt and be killed by the horrible disease of alcoholism. Have I lost respect for him? Of course I have. I'll still be a fan of his on the ice, but no one can condone something like this.

That being said....I'm wondering how much this is a result of what's going on w/his hip problem. I'm not excusing Alexei, but sometimes you do fall back on what has helped you "cope" and forget the pain of something from your past. This could very well be the last year Alexei skates because of his hip problems. That's the reality of the situation he has. Like I said, I'm not giving him an excuse. It could be however, the reason why Alexei's battling his demons w/the bottle again.

Jaana

10-07-2003, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by Tigger
Well, that glass of red wine I saw in Alexei's hand at the Reception after the Skate The Nation show in Sudbury last year certainly wasn't non alcoholic.

I'm wondering how much this is a result of what's going on w/his hip problem. I'm not excusing Alexei, but sometimes you do fall back on what has helped you "cope" and forget the pain of something from your past. This could very well be the last year Alexei skates because of his hip problems. That's the reality of the situation he has. Like I said, I'm not giving him an excuse. It could be however, the reason why Alexei's battling his demons w/the bottle again.

I don´t see this DUI incident having anything to do with Yagudin´s hip injury or "battling his demons with the bottle again". As far as I understand from his recent interview in a JPG event, he mentions having been interviewed and given a lift for the interviewer to a restaurant where a wedding party was held (the interviewer understood not to take a car into a wedding party...). Yagudin was asked to stay ("of course I was asked to stay") and he drank a couple of glasses of champagne (that is his story about the amount of alchohol he drank) in that restaurant.

He just should not have driven himself as he left the party. Or preferably should not have had any alchohol there, at least no more than one glass. That of course depends whether he had taken any alcohol before going to the party.

Marjaana

dmr65

10-07-2003, 04:58 AM

I'm with Duane, Suse. I have not read anyone bashing Yags.... Of course some are not going to be happy with what happened, this is normal... Again, even though I lost someone to a drunk driver, my own mother was hit by a drunk driver (thank God she lived) I am not sitting her passing judgment nor throwing darts at Yags..

I think sometimes as fans it's hard to read and hear anything against or about our favorites, when it's something like this. I hope to not get anything started, but duane and I are old time FSW chatters and we've seen ugly and vicious yrs ago.... (duane and I aren't really old):P I think this recent conversations going on here, FSU and some other boards is pretty tame compared to yrs ago. :??

Suse3, don't worry just carefully read again.. The posts here are civil, Adrian would not/does not allow such vicious attacks on anyone here, and some of us old FSW and new fans pretty much respect him for that... :D

Denise..

proam

10-07-2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by suse3
I think you should all fill your life with something else.

I'm tired of going on web sites and hearing about this.
It's over and done and know one here can affect this in anyway by talking about it.
The law, is doing what it is supposed to do. Alexei, will experience ramifications.

If you are passionate about this, then I think it is a good suggestion that you go volunteer out there in the community you live because that is how you will make a difference.
And
Before anyone decides to attack me, my sister died in a car accident in 1980 where alcohol and bad road conditions where the reason.

I'm not condoning drinking and driving and as you have heard, I have some first hand experience with the topic, but anger and blaming never helped anyone.

I'm thankful every time I hear that someone who has been drinking and driving arrives home safely, it gives them the opportunity to live to learn the danger they put everyone in and hopefully not to repeat.
That would be my hope with this story too!
Now lets find something more pleasant to talk about.
Seeing that skating fans are notorious for rehashing past (many from years ago) skating events, skating news, skating personalities, skating competitions, skating shows and etc you can expect to read about Yags’ DUI for years to come.

So be prepared to continue on you quest to tell posters to “I think you should all fill your life with something else.”, “I'm tired of going on web sites and hearing about this.” and “Now lets find something more pleasant to talk about.” for years to come. :roll:

Gaela

10-07-2003, 01:28 PM

Whether he has a drinking problem or not really does matter--what matters is that he drank and drove.

An alchoholic can have the wherewithall to take taxis, or drink at home.

loveskating

10-09-2003, 02:17 PM

Well, there is one thing for sure...I LOVE YAG'S SKATING and so I wish him well, very well. I want to keep seeing him skate for a long time.

sk8ingMom

10-11-2003, 12:54 AM

I am most likely older than some on this board. I have driven drunk in the past. Not falling down sloppy drunk, just a drink or two at a happy hour many years ago. That is until one afternoon, while on a lunch break (no alcohol) I was hit head on by a drunk driver. Yes, I am blessed to live and tell about it. So if you ask me do I feel for young adults/people who are ticketed or arrested for driving drunk, NO! I would want to know how much they drank, before I passed judgment. One or two drinks can put some people over the "legal" limit of alcohol consumption. I do not ever drink now why, many factors the first and most important I'm a mother, I have way to much to loose by drinking and driving. Something many young people do not know the price of. The second reason, I am a diabetic, and I get sick from it now. But before I was diagnosed I hardly ever drank, just not worth the cost of loosing my family. Believe me I am no saint, but no real sinner either.

So I wont pass judgement on Alexis, it is not my place nor yours. We are all people who are NOT perfect. We all make bad decisions, we all have skeltons. That is unless your GOD. Then in that case its nice to meet you on the internet!

mary

10-11-2003, 05:13 AM

:oops:

irene2020

10-12-2003, 01:46 PM

to all u judgemental IDIOTS, its very easy to criticize someone, EVERYONE makes mistakes, and EVERYONE has atleast 1 skeleton. Thank God no one ESPECIALLY alexei was injured. Just incase ya'll havent heard, "TO ERR IS HUMAN......FORGIVE DIVINE" I support alexei 100% as should everyone. He needs our love and support now more than ever!!!!

Don't be fooled by this poster - he/she is not a yagudin fan for sure. He/she either wants to provoke attacks on Yagudin by making provoking "defense" on Yagudin, or he/she sincerely wants Yagudin to continue to head in the wrong direction.

Lutzgirl

10-13-2003, 10:11 AM

im scared i think you need to chill :roll:

Blade1

10-13-2003, 02:44 PM

Like I said before, its yet another "troll" here at skatingforums. I would ignore anything this person has to say.

BarbraM

10-15-2003, 08:17 AM

I had a cousin killed at 5 years old by a drunk driver. Her and her mom were waiting on the corner to cross the street after school was out. He jumped the curb and pinned her up against a telephone/power pole and killed her.

I've also been hit in my car by a drunk driver who was 4 times over the legal limit. He totaled my car and took off. Fortunately they tracked him down since he had to abandon his car down the road due to flat tires, and fortunately I only had minor injuries. This was due to the fact I was rounding a curve at 5 miles an hour when I got hit. Had I been going faster and on a straight road I would have been hit head on and either died or been seriously injured.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for drunk drivers. They get away with a slap on the wrist over and over again til they finally kill someone. I read in the paper all the time about people being arrested for drunk driving for the 6th or 7th times. Sure their license was taken away, but that didn't stop them. They drove anyway.