Originally Posted by herniated

Thanks Moto and doubletoe. I really need the support today. I saw the chiropractor today and he worked on my neck which he felt was very 'out'. AND, said I should take another week off from skating!! He wants to work on it again this week and maayyybeee on Friday I can skate. Maybe. I will listen to him. Again, I love living more than skating but man do I need skating this week.

Originally Posted by herniated

Thanks for the suggestion doubletoe but I kinda don't like swimming much. Probly cause I'm not good at it. I've been stretching a bit and will continue until I'm back on the ice and cleared for the gym. I can't lift weights now either due to the neck.

I'm feeling better this evening. The best I've ever felt since the fall so all the treatments are working.

Originally Posted by TiggerTooSkates

Good Samaritan Laws are part of tort law, are as a result state-specific, and they can either protect anyone who acts in a prudent manner, OR only certified/licensed medical personnel (which would include MDs, PAs, RNs, EMTs, paramedics, etc, and in NC covers folks with certification like CPR and first aid). Depends on what state you're in. They were initially created to prevent lawsuits that survivors were filing against rescuers who, for example, saw people in burning cars and pulled them out, only for the person to end up paralyzed. Their second intention was to make it so people were NOT afraid to help someone in trouble (for many people, it's not putting themselves in danger that scares them, it's the potential for a court date - really). Good Samaritan Laws say that as long as you act as any reasonable, prudent person would in the same situation, you are protected from suit by the state in the event of a negative outcome - as long as your intention was not to injure the person but to rescue them - and it's done without looking for reward.

North Carolina has an excellent GSL - anyone who acts to rescue another is covered (which means if my sister pulled you out of a burning car in Raleigh, she'd be protected b/c in NC, anyone is) - but they are definitely state-specific with regards to who is protected and how. NC also has two parts to our GSL. One covers anyone offering volunteer medical assistance who is certified/licensed (like if I help someone at the rink who has a concussion ) In this case, using me as an example, I'm not working within a specific scope of practice in a health care setting, but I'm considered able to render a specific level of care. The second part covers anyone offering emergency assistance to someone injured at the scene of a motor vehicle accident, as long as the actions are prudent and not completely, wantonly wrong, or intended to hurt the person.

If I remember correctly, all 50 states and DC have GSLs, but they really vary. I know that in some states, expecting or getting something afterward CAN actually be construed as seeking reward, and your protection under that state's GS statute can be voided. And as you said, in other states, it only covers licensed/certified personnel. In some states, the person has to be in EMINIENT DANGER. Check this out for appalling: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...accident_N.htm

I mean, a wrecked car, with all that stuff leaking out, the antifreeze, gas, brake fluid, transmission fluid - heck, yeah, I'd want someone to drag me out too. Once you damage the engine, and since a wreck doesn't always make the car cut off and there's the whole spark thing with the ignition - you're one "pfft" away from the thing potentially blowing up.

I travel - a LOT - and I always feel that if I can help, I should (not that I would ever get in the way of a team onscene, mind you - but if the lady in line behind me at the grocery store suddenly passes out unconscious, I'd feel pretty low not doing anything about it). So I did research into that really quick!

Sorry - waxed a bit verbal - didn't mean to hijack the thread! GS laws are something I feel very strongly about - I think they should protect ANYONE. If I pass out in the mall and my heart stops beating, you can bet my family would never sue someone who tried to help (if you're certified in CPR, you're covered by NC's GSL). But CPR breaks your ribs - if not, it's actually not being done right - and I have heard of people trying to sue the person who actually saved their life because every one of their ribs were broken in the process. (This is why I think everyone over the age of about 12 should be CPR trained - I was a cardholder in the 7th grade. At 12 you have enough upper body strength to correctly deliver chest compressions to anyone, and the reasoning you need to be able to do so.) Completely disgraceful - and exactly why the laws were created in the first place.

I'll shut up now.

Originally Posted by Isk8NYC

I have first aid and CPR training from my "first sport" as a swimming instructor and lifeguard, but I feel like it's "too old."
Instead of signing up for the defibrillator update, I signed up for a new course. I figure it should be good for PSA credit - I'm going to submit the affidavit and see.

Online is probably okay for first aid, but for CPR, you really need the hands-on practice or you'll break someon e's rib.

Originally Posted by herniated

My neck is doing fine now and I did skate on Friday only to destroy my back on Saturday cleaning the bathtub. Much stress. I talked about it more on another thread I started in Non skating discussion - 81 year old mom having heart surgery.

Thanks all for your support.

Originally Posted by doubletoe

Well, I hope you have learned your lesson from this. Follow my lead on the whole housework issue: If you are a skater, make the necessary sacrifices, including NEVER cleaning your bathtub!

Originally Posted by singerskates

Isn't there that automatic shower cleaner that you hang from your shower? You're suppose to just have to press the button everytime you want to clean your tub and then it does it while you walk away.

I should buy that because with my herniated disks and messed up arms when I lean forward too long, I end up in pain for a while until I stretch it out for at least a half hour and sometimes more.

Besides, wouldn't we rather spend the time skating instead of doing our tubs?

Originally Posted by doubletoe

Well, I hope you have learned your lesson from this. Follow my lead on the whole housework issue: If you are a skater, make the necessary sacrifices, including NEVER cleaning your bathtub!

Originally Posted by sk8lady

I assigned my husband and my son to each clean one bathroom and refused to clean them if they forgot. Although I did break down and wipe the mold out of the sink yesterday...

Originally Posted by dbny

There is a reason gas station bathrooms are notoriously disgusting, and I suspect it's genetic.

Originally Posted by Isk8NYC

Hess stations usually have clean bathrooms. (The company-operated ones at least - old dealer stations are a crapshoot. Literally)