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Old 09-15-2008, 08:28 AM
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Jumping out of Bed or Pushing the Snooze Button? 9/15-21 Practice

Jumping out of Bed

I really pushed it in Power, decided I didn't want to be left behind. So much that when she wanted us to do mohawks on the end I couldn't do anything on one foot my legs were shaking so much. When I told the coach that she says "Good! Glad to hear it. Good for you!" Wasn't the response I was expecting!

Saw my reflection in the window with my back spirals and my free leg actually looked pretty high.

Snooze Button....I started going down hill after the power class and only skated about 40 minutes after the class. I started coughing in power and thought it was just that early morning power congestion from having to blow your nose. But it didn't stop and now I'm thinking I'm going to go back to bed, which I never do after skating.

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Old 09-15-2008, 08:47 AM
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Jumping out of bed at 5 a.m. and GLAD!

First ice of the season this morning for me! HURRAY! It felt very strange at first, but soon some skills starting coming back.

I still have all 8 three turns, and they don't seem to go away over the summer anymore. They are solid.

Some brackets are solid too, but the difficult brackets (back inside) I postponed until I felt a little more comfortable on the ice.

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The nifty twizzles I had last season are merely lumpy, turning threes.

My infant back spin must have been adopted by someone else over the summer break.

All forward spins traveled, but I got about 10 revs fairly easily. Unlike backspins, they are not completely gone.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:41 PM
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Jumping: I got up and skated this morning. I did skip the afternoon session, but I did get up and skate.

Jumping: I ran thru my program, and it mostly worked. I did forget a spin though... But all my jumps worked and I ended with the music. I think I just need to do more run-thrus to become comfortable with the program again.

Snoozing: I didn't manage a 2sal today. Kinda made me sad. And pretty muchc every attempt at a catchfoot spin ended in failure or uglyness. I really need to ask someone to film me. Both spins and program.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:18 PM
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Jumping: Still seem to have my loop today, did one really good one, three with iffy landings, and a bunch of crap ones, but IT'S A REAL JUMP!!!!!
Did two good backspins as well after working with secondary coach on them yesterday.
Snoozing: As I heard a competitor say at AN last year, "Ladies and gentlemen, the camel has left the building. There will be no camel today."
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:20 AM
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Called in sick to work today, but that didn't stop me from going to the rink! One of those snot flying out of your nose on spins days...but needless to say skating helped clear up some of the ick....

Jumping out of bed: Camel spins and camel-sit. Camel spins are the bane of my existence but now that I am working on keeping my R shoulder back and almost turning my upper body, I'm staying over the skating side MUCH better and getting faster rotation and more revs. Yay! That makes it easier for me to get in a lower sit position on the combo spin too, since I have more speed.

Sit-change-sit--Only did 2 of these today, one was REALLY good...the back sit position wasn't a whole lot higher than my forward sit was! I fell over on the 2nd attempt because I was leaning forward too much toward the end of the back sit. I think these are getting comfortable enough to put in my program for Buckeye!

Re-learned the Viennese, as I hadn't done it in like 8 yrs and forgot the steps. I might get moved to this dance for Buckeye (signed up for silver tango, if no one else signs up for that, I do know 2 people signed up for the Viennese, friends of mine, so I will just do that with them). Silver Tango is looking really good, too....did about 6 patterns of that...I tend to rush a little bit on the end pattern, mostly on the cross 3...but adding some arm movements there seems to help.

Scratch-back scratch was good today, too! Like as in totally passable if I did it on my pre-juv free test the way I was doing it today...I did a bunch of them and only one was shaky.

My coach and I put together my compulsory for Buckeye!

Only ran sections of my silver free (which is currently the test version, not the competition version) since I'm a little under the weather. First half was good, second half was good, except I forgot that I'd switched a few things around.

Pushing the snooze button: Lutzes. My coach is working with me on more height and more of a real lutz (I tend to square my shoulders and not stay down in my knees)....I'm getting the takeoff to be more of what he wants, it just feels awkward half the time.

Didn't get to axels today

Didn't get to my moves either....actually other than the crossover patterns and once through the rockers when I was warming up last Saturday, I haven't touched them in weeks. As usual. I hate moves. And don't have time to work on them. And don't have to because it's not like I'm at a point where I need them to pass a freestyle test (ha ha the chances of me ever getting to junior free are slim to none). But seriously one day I'll suck it up and finish...
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:47 AM
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Snoozing: Posted in the wrong thread! When did practice threads start changing on TUESDAYS??

Jumping out of bed! A strange thing happened as I stepped on to the ice this morning. Since I started skating January 18, 2006, every time I first set blade to ice I have stepped off of solid ground with a little trepidation (ok, a LOT of trepidation initially!) but, today there was none. Stepping onto the ice was like coming home, returning to the familiar and comfortable. I am finally starting to feel like a skater rather than an interloper

Had a good workout this morning! Lots and lots of backwards, a few spins, lots of edges. Even forward edges and XOs have benefited from being down in my knees more and my knees are FINE! (It must have been just the initial 'strain' of the new posture.)
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:03 AM
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Since I started skating January 18, 2006, every time I first set blade to ice I have stepped off of solid ground with a little trepidation (ok, a LOT of trepidation initially!) but, today there was none. Stepping onto the ice was like coming home,...
Wait until you start leaping onto the ice with gusto...

..but forget to take off your guards!
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:23 AM
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Leaping out of bed: Coaches are back, so back to lessons again, and extra tomorrow to make up for not having had any on Sunday. Plus the sharpener was in, so I got my blades touched up. They were in that irritating stage where they didn't really need it, but it would have been too long until he came again. My coach does sharpenings, but I am letting him learn on other people, thank you very much - he may (and does) stone my blades, but I'm not letting him near them with a machine just yet.

Pressing the snooze button: I seem to have extraordinarily little energy these days, and felt I was skating below par. And why are we never satisfied - Husband and I have conquered our togetherness issues and are beginning to conquer our speed issues, and to remember to point our toes and so on.... but then there are the hold issues, and.....
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:26 AM
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Wait until you start leaping onto the ice with gusto...

..but forget to take off your guards!
Ain't gonna happen .... nope .... wont let it
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:45 AM
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jumping: finished my new dramatic interp choreography, and it is the return of pretty! I'm feeling good about this one, because I feel like this plays up my strengths, the music is a little different than what you expect of dramatic. I've done angry storm cloud (Riders on the Storm) and wistful angel (Angel Flying Too Close to the Ground) to mixed success. But I'm feeling this one better than the other two.

snooze: I ushered in my 39th birthday with a huge crash on a loop. I'm in what my coach is maddenly calling that inbetween stage. I'm no longer skating "small", but I'm having trouble controlling the tricks because I am skating bigger. The loop was huge, the spring surprising, and I fell hard on my assets then slid to center ice. So I tried the footwork in and out of the jump over and over and over and over and over again. Sometimes I chickened out and did a half loop. Other times I landed on two feet. Or I just didn't do the jump at all. So I had a mental hissy fit and screamed internally "arms!" and that did the trick in controlling the akimbo limbs and I did the jump smoothly thereafter.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:37 PM
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Snoozing: Posted in the wrong thread! When did practice threads start changing on TUESDAYS??
Um, I started the thread yesterday and it's dated the 15th, which was Monday...so I'm not sure what you mean

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Old 09-16-2008, 07:16 PM
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Snoozing: Posted in the wrong thread! When did practice threads start changing on TUESDAYS??
This thread was created on Monday, but Doubletoe and I were finishing a discussion on last weeks, which probably raised it above this one. So this thread did exist, it was just lower down on the list than last weeks.

Jumping out of Bed
Me! Well, not quite jumping, more like bitterly crawling out, but I DID force myself to get up for a (relatively) early morning lesson.

Had a good lesson. I was feeling pretty down on myself after competition, and the lesson made me feel better. I wasn't depressed because I didn't skate well, but more because I was feeling like, logically, I should quit.

Anyways. My coach commented on how much better my axels have gotten, which was really nice to hear. I've been working really hard on getting more height and distance, so it's nice to know that it's been paying off.

2loops were good. We worked on getting more arc on it so I can get a triple out of it 2loop2loops were good too, once I actually did them.

2flips were good, in their own way. I didn't land many, but they were still much better, you know? I could have landed almost all of them, but I was tired/kept reaching for the ice.

2lutz is ALMOST on a complete outside edge. It does change edge a little, but I don't think it is noticeable enough to get a deduction. I can get the single on a perfect outside edge with absolutely no change, but the double changes right before I take-off.

I worked on moves, and I really think they may be about ready to test. Since we're not having a test session for some time, I'm hoping that maybe I can get my juv moves and FS ready as well and test both levels (pre-juv and juv) at once.

After my lesson I worked a bit on counters and rockers and did some REALLY good BO rockers and counters.

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Took a couple nasty falls, as usual. Slammed my left hip again. I guess I really do need to wear my pads all the time.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:48 AM
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Snooze Button: This is actually a good thing. I wouldn't get up early even if my bed was on fire. That's why I never would have made a good competitive skater.

Jumping out of Bed: Had a really good skate tonight. Not that I did particularly good jumps and spins, but everything felt easy and natural. That doesn't happen very often. Even my loops felt good. It's at times like this that I feel like an actual skater.

Snooze Button: Last week I had an awful lesson. Couldn't do anything. I feel like I'm wasting coaches time and my money.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:01 AM
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Jumping: I seem to be spending my time building up my quadriceps - never realized I was skating so upright until my session with Ms. Manley - not anymore! HUGE difference in all my moves, being down in the knees, but the quads still don't have the endurance - it's coming but not there yet.

Snooze: After 45 minutes of 'deep in the knees' skating, I asked my coach if we could do off-ice work today

Jumping: We sort of worked out the winter's plan of attack, discussed what I'd like to do for a new Interpretive, and worked on off-ice jumps. I didn't feel I had enough hang-time to get to full rotation jumps but coach says my height is good and I just need to work on timing to get my rotation happening quicker. That was a productive session!
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:48 AM
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Snooze: Which is what I wanted to do this morning after a disturbed night. And with sharp blades I really didn't skate well and had a very poor lesson with Coach2.

Jumping out of bed: Conversely, I had a really good lesson with coach1, focussing on technique!
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:02 PM
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Turned off the alarm:

I went to bed at 9:00pm and set the alarm for 5:00am, but when it went off, I decided my body would thank me if I slept 9 hours instead of getting up and skating with a cold. I've learned that skating while sick tends to result in the one-step-forward-two-steps-back syndrome. . . So now it's going to end up being at least 3 weeks not skating my program. I'm not looking forward to that first run-through.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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Jump Out of Bed:
... and tried to rush out to the temporary ice rink to FINALLY have a lesson with my secondary coach...

Snooze:
...I got there... but sadly a bit late. I had a shorter lesson than I wanted, never mind no warm up time!!!

Jump Out of Bed:
My secondary coach decide to have mercy on me and give me the remainder of the time at our next lesson since she knew I was making an effort to get to the rink! Bless her heart, since it was just as huge of an inconvenience for her as it is for me!

I went thru my spiral (yeah, first thing after a short couple of laps of skating!!!) and then waltz jump, followed by loops. The RFO spiral was fine.

Snooze:
The LFO spiral...needs improvement...

Jump Out of Bed:
Waltz and Loop was just fine!!! Getting used to the new sharpening!!!

Snooze:
Loop-loop sucked after the first handful of them! Why, oh why can't I get any flow after that first loop!?!?!

And I really need that access to the workplace gym... if nothing else I would like the convenience of taking a SHOWER at work rather than having to go home first to shower before going to work (and getting distracted by home stuff and being slightly late to work.... )
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:59 PM
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Jumping out of bed Had a nice practice yesterday after group lessons. Ran each of my moves once, as if testing, and was only a little out of breathe when I finished And they were all pretty good, I think.

I also finished a new practice dress I'm getting much better at this sewing thing.

Also thrilled that this weekend I found the Circo leggings back in stock at Target. They are WAY longer than the ones from last year, and a different material. These have a more flattering fit, and while I don't need the length, now I can tuck them under the heel of my boot to lengthen my leg line (last years only came to my ankles). I bought the only 2 they had, and will go look for more today! Got to love $5 skatewear.

Pushing the snooze putton I hate backspins. Not as much as I hate jumps, but they are so frustrating. Especially because I get them, then regress, then get them, then regress more than I did the first time. I was able to cross my leg a few times, but not many, and on one of them I stabbed myself and have a 2 inch cut on my leg. I didn't cut my new leggings though I never understand how that works, but I'm happy I didn't cut them.

My biggest concern: nerves. The test schedule came out, and I swear my heart rate doubled just reading it. My coach is VERY upset with me for the amount of nerves I'm having, I think she thinks I'm doing it on purpose and psyching myself out. Problem is, my head knows there is nothing to worry about, but the physiological response doesn't agree with that. Yesterday before we taught LTS she was telling me to stop thinking about being nervous and we talked about the test, then she asked me if I had just eaten something spicy, because my cheeks were bright pink. I said- nope- that's because we've been talking about out test. A fun game to play would be to talk about bunnies and unicorns while taking my pulse, then change the subject to how to best utilize the warm up time, and watch the pulse sky rocket! I'm at a loss, I don't know how to make the nerves go away (even now, I'm starting to feel my pulse go up.) I know I can do the moves. I've taken tests before and know what the sessions are like. I know that there are ZERO stakes in this test, so it doesn't matter either way. I even am trying to think of it as a critique instead of a test, so that it really doesn't matter, but as much as my brain thinks all that, my body disagrees and is thinking "if I don't pass this I'm never going to go to the olympics".
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:48 PM
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Also thrilled that this weekend I found the Circo leggings back in stock at Target. They are WAY longer than the ones from last year, and a different material. These have a more flattering fit, and while I don't need the length, now I can tuck them under the heel of my boot to lengthen my leg line (last years only came to my ankles). I bought the only 2 they had, and will go look for more today! Got to love $5 skatewear.
Wow! Thanks for the info. A Target just opened in walking distance from my house. Will go over and see if they have any of those. I've been wearing Moret, which are $19 at Modell's.

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My biggest concern: nerves. The test schedule came out, and I swear my heart rate doubled just reading it. My coach is VERY upset with me for the amount of nerves I'm having, I think she thinks I'm doing it on purpose and psyching myself out. Problem is, my head knows there is nothing to worry about, but the physiological response doesn't agree with that.
If you can't make the physical response go away, maybe you can learn to skate with it. I prepare for testing by doing run throughs while imagining that it's the actual test, so I get the nerves going on purpose.

Jumping out of bed:
My first lesson of the season wasn't bad at all. To my surprise, my coach started with FXO's, which got compliments and the tip that my push under on my good side is not complete - fixed it right away. Towards the end of the lesson, a young adult skater who is still quite a beginner did a spiral, which I commented on - "pretty good!" So, of course, coach had me do them too. I explained my new problem with the stretches first. On the R, I got my free leg high enough, and just a tad low on the L. Coach also said mine were much better than the other skater's (not that I care, but in order to let me know what I was doing right) because my form was better, with arched back, etc. There is hope!

Snooze:
Could not spin at all! Coach thinks my problem checking FO threes may be slack abdominal muscles. That would be good news, because I can work with it. F power XO's felt OK, a bit slow, and I tipped F on one, which was scary. DH video'ed, and I looked even slower than I felt and too tentative. I was doing them with some deliberation on purpose - but still!
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:26 PM
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Snooze? I love snoozing.

Had a very enjoyable couple of practices and we even had a chance to meet up with our coach - first time since our home rink was closed. We now actually have an ending to our program.
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:31 PM
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Had a decent skate today. Jumps were pretty good. 2loop 2loops weren't too bad. 2lutzes were, dare i say, borderline consistent! 2flips were pretty good too. I still sit down on them more often than I should, but I'm getting better about it.

I think that I've gotten better, in general, about fighting for the landings of my jumps. I used to fall more often than not on those 50/50 jumps where you could land it if you really tried. It kind of hurts sometimes to fight for those landings, as it puts a lot of pressure on my knee/hip to stand up when the rest of my body wants to fall, but I'm glad I'm doing it.

My coaches agreed to let me test my pre-juv MIF and FS October 17 Right now the test session is scheduled for 6:15 AM though--I definitely will NOT be jumping out of bed. Anyways, my moves coach said she thinks it is definitely do-able. My primary coach also said that it isn't unrealistic for me to hope to test Juv in mid-Novemeber. So hopefully I'll be moving right along with these tests.

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I wish I could test my moves on an olympic sized rink! I'm fairly tall (5'6, looooong legs), and fairly powerful when I do moves, so it's just so stressful. On the pre-juv crossovers, I have to place my lobes just so or I run out of room on the ends. I also have to place my lobes perfectly on the 3s or, again, I run out of room.

Hurt my wrist today. I landed a 2flip in someone's lutz tap. That made me fall pretty hard. The mark was quite funny though--a missing chunk of ice with an edge coming out of it.
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Old 09-17-2008, 10:39 PM
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I wish I could test my moves on an olympic sized rink! I'm fairly tall (5'6, looooong legs), and fairly powerful when I do moves, so it's just so stressful. On the pre-juv crossovers, I have to place my lobes just so or I run out of room on the ends. I also have to place my lobes perfectly on the 3s or, again, I run out of room.
Test at Paramount! That's what I do now, precisely for that reason. It's an Olympic sized rink and the ice never gets rock hard, even in the mornings. I'll give you all the info if you PM me.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:36 AM
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Tried to push the Snooze button this morning at 4am, but one of the twins woke me. They wanted to be early for their 6am lessons, and they were. They had time to stretch, jump rope, and warm up.

Jumping Out of Bed:
I was able to stop on my freshly-sharpened skates with no problem.
MITF were okay; too sleepy to do spiral sequences.
Back outside threes are under control. Now to do them on pattern.
FO Brackets were good; still can't get the hang of those FBFB Brackets. I so want to be able to do those well.


Pushing the Snooze Button:
Spins are off-center. I think it's because I changed my blades' ROH from 3/8" to 1/2" - every entrance was skidded.
The three turn patterns were okay, very few touchdowns, but the threes themselves are sloppy and scraped.

Didn't try any jumps other than Waltz jumps; they were okay.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:41 AM
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Pushing the snooze button? I should have!

Dog-tired today, no zip. Did a bit of everything and called it a day.

Jumping out of bed? We'll try that Tuesday!
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Old 09-18-2008, 09:19 AM
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[quote=Skittl1321;375494]Also thrilled that this weekend I found the Circo leggings back in stock at Target. <snip> Got to love $5 skatewear.[quote]Thanks for the tip - I have other shopping to do and two Target stores nearby, so I'll grab a few for the kids.

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I was able to cross my leg a few times, but not many, and on one of them I stabbed myself and have a 2 inch cut on my leg.
Are you dropping/pushing open your free hip when you try to cross? that'll make you wobble just enough to stab yourself. (I have an old scar from just that!) Try to keep your free knee in front of you - if it goes out to the side, you'll drop your hip. Also - practice doing fully open backspins with the free leg extended to the front - it builds up the hip muscle control.

I feel it more when I jump - I always feel like I'm going to kick myself if I try to cross my legs in the jump, or even keep that free foot in front of the other shin. (Have to try shin guards on the skating/landing leg, lol)
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