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Old 04-20-2010, 07:27 PM
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...and good grief, could they have at least put a mirror in the dressing room?
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:29 PM
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I lost my credential early in the week--Wednesday to be exact, someone must have grabbed it out of the locker room by mistake (I put my name on it), but every time I asked at the registration desk, they stared at me like I was speaking Japanese and then said no, they didn't have any missing credentials. Except they must have had it the whole time, because it was sitting there when I went to pick up my music on Saturday night.
And so how did you get in? My credential went missing from the locker room sometime on Thursday - between my solo and partnered dance events, warmups, and practices, I was on and off the ice 7 times that day, with costume changes every time. I took my credential off in the morning, stuck it in my bag, and didn't look for it again until the evening. When I couldn't find it, I reported directly to the registration desk, where I was told I could check in at the desk each time and they would verify me on the competitor's list. Except that when I tried to do that, I got dressed down by some girl from USFS and was forced to pay another $20 for a replacement credential. And it would have been $25, except somebody pointed out that I could get two day passes for $20, so they agreed to prorate it. I'm not even as upset about having to pay for it as I am at being treated so badly. Honestly, she talked down to me as if I were 6 years old!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:40 PM
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I can't believe that the hockey players that play in the late late night beer leagues there don't have beer in the locker room. What's the difference with AN?

That was one of the cool things about the Kansas City AN - the bar between the rinks.

Hey - that's MY kind of place!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:43 PM
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is Skittl our next champagne recipient? Nothing is finer than sipping the sweet, sweet elixer of champagne grapes IN THE STANDS to celebrate an AN debut. If the loop hurts, do a flip.

I am sure there was a liability concern with the rink/city/club/LOC, but there's no reason to be a stick-in-the-*ahem* about it. If anything, sneaking drinks from Rob and Steven made that forbidden cocktail taste better than anything I have drank since I turned 21, for save champagne at my wedding and AN debut. As I said to Rob, I felt like I was a junior in high school sneaking booze from the cool kid at a hockey game.
If it isn't Skittl it'll be me. I am pretty sure I can pass my PreBronze dances by the end of the year, which will make me eligible to do an Interp at ANs, and since Interp (Artistic - I couldn't do comedy to save my life) is what I love most . . . so remember to bring the Champagne, because I intend to drink some, and then some more.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:48 PM
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Except that when I tried to do that, I got dressed down by some girl from USFS and was forced to pay another $20 for a replacement credential. And it would have been $25, except somebody pointed out that I could get two day passes for $20, so they agreed to prorate it. I'm not even as upset about having to pay for it as I am at being treated so badly. Honestly, she talked down to me as if I were 6 years old!
Sorry about the triple post, but $20.00 for a replacement credential??? That's crazy - the LOC got the credentials basically for free. I know, because I printed them on my home printer and I also supplied about 500 lanyards, given to me for the purpose by a friend who owns a PR firm, and the remaining lanyards and plastic badge pockets were similarly donated.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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If it isn't Skittl it'll be me. I am pretty sure I can pass my PreBronze dances by the end of the year, which will make me eligible to do an Interp at ANs, and since Interp (Artistic - I couldn't do comedy to save my life) is what I love most . . . so remember to bring the Champagne, because I intend to drink some, and then some more.
Wheee!!!!!!!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:57 PM
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Sorry about the triple post, but $20.00 for a replacement credential??? That's crazy - the LOC got the credentials basically for free. I know, because I printed them on my home printer and I also supplied about 500 lanyards, given to me for the purpose by a friend who owns a PR firm, and the remaining lanyards and plastic badge pockets were similarly donated.
Yeah, I expected to be charged something - maybe 5 bucks or so - but I thought this was outrageous. She just kept insisting that if it were easy to replace credentials there would be no point in having them. I always thought the only point was so they wouldn't have to verify every athlete off the list every time they walked through the door. I think the real issue is that they were afraid somebody's Aunt Millie might be getting in free with my missing credential, and so they charged me Aunt Millie's admission fee. 'Course, if my name had been printed on the thing in the first place, somebody could have returned it to me. I only wish I'd thought to write on it immediately, but I was kind of preoccupied with other things - like skating.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:01 PM
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Sorry about the triple post, but $20.00 for a replacement credential??? That's crazy - the LOC got the credentials basically for free. I know, because I printed them on my home printer and I also supplied about 500 lanyards, given to me for the purpose by a friend who owns a PR firm, and the remaining lanyards and plastic badge pockets were similarly donated.
See, this just pisses me off even more. As both flo and I said above, PLEASE send an e-mail to USFS about all this. This LOC blatantly gouged us. I love how they got all the badges for free yet still couldn't put our names on them. What, ink too expensive? (Actually, I already know the answer to that question, and it's "yes," because when Pam Crowley told them, in my presence, that IJS skaters should be getting their own protocols for free, the LOC chair said no because the paper and ink would cost too much. True story.)
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:06 PM
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See, this just pisses me off even more. As both flo and I said above, PLEASE send an e-mail to USFS about all this. This LOC blatantly gouged us. I love how they got all the badges for free yet still couldn't put our names on them. What, ink too expensive? (Actually, I already know the answer to that question, and it's "yes," because when Pam Crowley told them, in my presence, that IJS skaters should be getting their own protocols for free, the LOC chair said no because the paper and ink would cost too much. True story.)
In this case, I don't think we can blame the LOC. They were willing to let me in by just verifying my name on the list. It was the USFS representative who insisted that I pay for it and was not very nice to me.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:40 PM
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when Pam Crowley told them, in my presence, that IJS skaters should be getting their own protocols for free
Our Club gave IJS skaters paper copies of their protocols for free, but I wondered if it would have been better to just email a pdf to the skaters after the event ended.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:43 PM
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Then please put that in the mail. There's no excuse for charging $20 when it's so easy to verify who we are. This competition is for us, right?????
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:46 PM
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Give the USFS rep a break, she's done 3 Regionals, 1 Sectionals and ANs this year as the "credential Nazi"
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:53 PM
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I love how they got all the badges for free yet still couldn't put our names on them. What, ink too expensive?
There are two reasons why individual skaters' names weren't on the badges. First, a decision was made (not sure by whom) that it would be simpler and more efficient to simply have "Skater" or "Competitor" on the competitors' badges because that way a credential could just be put into each skater's gift bag, rather than matching the skaters and credentials as the skaters checked in. Also, the chair of the LOC got the complete list of skaters pretty late from USFS - I know that too, because I had asked for the list of skaters shortly after registration closed in January so that I could begin printing individualized credentials for everyone as early as possible and avoid a last-minute time crunch. However, the complete list wasn't made available until March, which would have made it tight, time-wise, getting an individualized credential for everyone as I was doing them all in the evenings on my home computer. I could have divided the job with someone else, but by that time I think everyone was pretty busy. Beyond that I don't know how the decisions were made - I volunteered to do credentials and that was pretty much all I had time for.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:55 PM
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Then three regionals and 1 sectionals is one too many, still no excuse for being rude.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:55 PM
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Hello there, my pretty!!!

Yeah, part of me is glad I missed this one. Of course, I didn't exactly "choose" not to go... the "8 month unpaid forced vacation" forced my hand here... and I do miss everyone this year!

Club Ice in the middle of the competition?!?!?! WTF!?!?!? You're not kiddin' me, right??? (Was there also a public session too? I saw some pictures of a public session...)
Well...that farm girl never returned the ruby slippers and I was so mad that I turned really green so figured I better not come. LOL

Actually, I had a good reason too. I was direction an ice show and didn't really have a choice in the date since I was asked to direct after date had been picked.

Sheesh....what a mishap. Hope everyone had fun regardless thoughl
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:59 PM
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Yup. Every day for about 3 hours the club kids would show up to train. How many rinks are there in MN? They couldn't have gone elsewhere for a few days?

And we missed you too!
Wow...interesting.

On a better note though....how did it feel to be in Championship round? : )
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:16 PM
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Word to that entire post, Rachel. Those sweeper girls earned the warning we were given about tossies ...
Vesper, your commentary, especially during Championship Master's Jun/Sen men was hilarious! (comment after a skater fell on a 2-sal and "rolled" over on the fall) - "I wonder if he gets extra points for a difficult exit?" So good!
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:32 PM
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Our Club gave IJS skaters paper copies of their protocols for free, but I wondered if it would have been better to just email a pdf to the skaters after the event ended.
You should get it at the same time the results are posted, so that if there is an issue you or your coach can talk to the referee about it.

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There are two reasons why individual skaters' names weren't on the badges ... I volunteered to do credentials and that was pretty much all I had time for.
Thank you very much for volunteering your time. I hope you don't think I was blaming you. Names on badges are a small thing and wouldn't have even pinged my radar had it not been for all the other problems we faced as competitors. A lot of straws combined to break the camel's back!

w.w.west, you were very much missed! It just wasn't the same without you!
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:55 PM
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I hope you don't think I was blaming you. Names on badges are a small thing and wouldn't have even pinged my radar had it not been for all the other problems we faced as competitors.
I don't think that at all - it is just the one thing about the event that I do have some information about.

I think that some of the concerns and issues raised here are worth bringing to the GC's attention, though. It might be a good idea to require the chair or co-chair of any future Adult Nationals to be an adult skater who has been to at least two or three ANs, and/or to require the LOC to consult with an ASC liaison on a regular schedule from the time the event is awarded until the event is actually completed. That might help everyone get on the same page regarding expectations.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:57 PM
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If it isn't Skittl it'll be me. I am pretty sure I can pass my PreBronze dances by the end of the year, which will make me eligible to do an Interp at ANs, and since Interp (Artistic - I couldn't do comedy to save my life) is what I love most . . . so remember to bring the Champagne, because I intend to drink some, and then some more.
oh she who had a few too many pulls on my "slushie"... I bought my own champagne in 2005, then bought for jazzpants in 2008. Jazzpants bought for Terri C in 2009. It will be Terri's responsibility to buy for you or Skittl when the time comes.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:08 PM
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It might be a good idea to require the chair or co-chair of any future Adult Nationals to be an adult skater who has been to at least two or three ANs, and/or to require the LOC to consult with an ASC liaison on a regular schedule from the time the event is awarded until the event is actually completed.
Agreed - a mentor of sorts would be fantastically helpful. Then again, it sounds like the LOC was too bullheaded to ask for help anyways, so it's another case of "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:08 PM
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w.w.west, you were very much missed! It just wasn't the same without you!
Thanks. I'm coming to GC though....see you there?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:11 PM
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Vesper, your commentary, especially during Championship Master's Jun/Sen men was hilarious! (comment after a skater fell on a 2-sal and "rolled" over on the fall) - "I wonder if he gets extra points for a difficult exit?" So good!
lol thanks! we can haz fun timez! However I cannot claim credit for the best line of the night: "It's iTouch, not you touch!" LMFAO.

Ooh AZ ... I'm thinking Phoenix or a suburb. Coyotes FSC of Arizona is a pretty big club, they've had a few Regionals IIRC?
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:12 PM
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oh she who had a few too many pulls on my "slushie"... I bought my own champagne in 2005, then bought for jazzpants in 2008. Jazzpants bought for Terri C in 2009. It will be Terri's responsibility to buy for you or Skittl when the time comes.
Sweetie, I seem to recall returning the favor on Saturday night with a few nips of my specially-enhanced OJ. Not to worry, though - if I really do manage to make it to ANs with an Interp (and it may well be a version of the one I have now because I love it), I will be certain to bring the Champagne myself. Count on it. And I'll bring good stuff, too - Chandon Brut, maybe even Perrier-Jouet Blanc de Noir. Just saying.
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Old 04-20-2010, 10:39 PM
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mmmm, forgot about the OJ. No, you should not have to buy your own, the Bronze for Life pact was that the courtesy be passed down. It's tradition. Terri will honor it, or else see to it that someone does.
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