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Old 11-10-2005, 03:59 PM
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I wasn't old enough last year to go--you had to have been 30 by July 1, 2004.
I'm pretty sure I can't do adult nationals and Oberstdorf, so I'll have to decide which one. There will probably only be 1 or 2 other silver II men at AN, so it might be more exciting to do O'dorf on this fact alone.
Provided that the age requirement and deadline remain the same, I'd still be too young to go this year. I don't turn 30 until August 31, 2006. Oh well. I'll wait!

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:03 PM
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Speaking of adult competitions...
NoVa, do have any inside information as to when the New Year's Invtiational announcement will come out?
I know that they're probably awaiting sanction, but what is taking soooo long??
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:04 PM
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Frank,
I think they changed the lower age limit to 28, so you could skate!
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:08 PM
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Frank,
I think they changed the lower age limit to 28, so you could skate!
Really? Cool! I need to start strategizing then.

Thanks for the info sk8pics.

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:49 PM
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Speaking of adult competitions...
NoVa, do have any inside information as to when the New Year's Invtiational announcement will come out?
I know that they're probably awaiting sanction, but what is taking soooo long??
Yes they are still awaiting sanction.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:56 AM
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Provided that the age requirement and deadline remain the same, I'd still be too young to go this year. I don't turn 30 until August 31, 2006. Oh well. I'll wait!

Frank
You'll be okay - they've lowered the starting age to 28. So if you did want to go this year....
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:26 PM
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Speaking of adult competitions...
NoVa, do have any inside information as to when the New Year's Invtiational announcement will come out?
I know that they're probably awaiting sanction, but what is taking soooo long??
I just (like 2 minutes ago) got an e-mail with the announcement attached. I guess they just sent it to last year's competitors, but the e-mail said it would posted on Wash FSC's website "shortly". There was also a note that they added a Pairs/Group Interp event - groups of 2 or 3. Now, if only they'd add team events!


Edited to ask (rhetorically) what is wrong with the Washington FSC?!! For the Bronze MIF event, they chose the alt BO edge glides (OK, perfectly acceptable) and the 8-step mohawk sequence from the Silver test. Hello? For the Silver MIF event, they chose the FO-BI 3 -turns (understandable, but that's probably the toughest move on that test) and the back power 3's from the Juvenile test (which aren't on any adult test). Huh? 5 Bronze moves and they could only find 1? And for Gold MIF, one of the elements is the Novice sprial sequence. Anyone who's either working on Gold MIF or has recently passed is not working on Novice - at least choose an Intermediate move! And the adult MIF tests are still not used as a qualifier/disqualifier. So if (theoretically) I had passed Bronze MIF and was working on Silver and wanted to compete that level, I couldn't. (oh right, I could compete Silver moves in the Bronze MIF event)

And then there's the matter of the CM events. In Bronze CM, 3 forward and 3 backward cross rolls are required. Last year, I seem to recall that the required MIF was 2 or 3 power 3's - makes more sense. The elements in the Pre-Bronze CM seem perfectly reasonable, except for the waltz 8. Sure, it's now on the Pre-Bronze MIF test, but only since Sept 1. If you're like me and passed before then, you never had to do the waltz 8 (unless you took Pre-Pre but that's unlikely for people who started testing after adult MIF went into effect). And if you're also like me in that you haven't yet passed Bronze MIF and/or haven't worked enough on Silver MIF to have decent cross rolls (in both directions), you're basically stuck. Grrrr.

And don't get me started on the Bronze spins.

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Old 11-12-2005, 02:05 PM
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I can't help but agree with what Debbie posted here. Please don't go crying that we need to be challenged as skaters- there is being challenged, but the last time I checked, judges want to see what the skater can do well, not what is sloppy, cheated, etc.

Oh, and another competition has entered the "Terri's Next Competition Lottery"
The Valentine Open is the weekend after New Year's and a local one to boot- I just found out this morning that they are offering Adult events!
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:33 PM
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2006 New Year's Invitational


WFSC just sent out applications through email. They are dividing each category into class groups now
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:27 PM
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Oh, and another competition has entered the "Terri's Next Competition Lottery"
The Valentine Open is the weekend after New Year's and a local one to boot- I just found out this morning that they are offering Adult events!
Where is that? I'd like to do at least one freestyle competition before AN's (since I haven't competed in freestyle since 2000) and I'm not sure I can afford sectionals and AN's, since they'll both involve a plane ticket.
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:11 PM
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Here is the link for New Years Invitational

http://users.erols.com/wfsc/upcoming.html
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:25 PM
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Where is that? I'd like to do at least one freestyle competition before AN's (since I haven't competed in freestyle since 2000) and I'm not sure I can afford sectionals and AN's, since they'll both involve a plane ticket.
The Valentine Invtational is a standard track USFS competition that will have adult events. It will take place in Yorktown, VA the weekend of 11-12 February. Anouncement will be posted as soon as the sanction is received.
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Old 11-12-2005, 08:29 PM
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Just sent in my application for D. Borgoyne N.A. Invitational in Wyandotte!
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Old 11-12-2005, 09:52 PM
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Not going

Hi everyone

Well , I think Halloween might be my last for a while. Life has been getting in the way quiet a lot I hope you all have fun at your future events, maybe Ill make Oberstdorf again but that might be it for the next year.
Maybe things will change. I wish you all luck.
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Old 11-13-2005, 07:01 AM
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Edited to ask (rhetorically) what is wrong with the Washington FSC?!!
They always do that. They have a "standard track" mentality, I guess. They use the test level as a sort of minimum, and jack up all the elements in spins and compulsory moves. I rarely enter those events at New Years.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:51 AM
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It seems like that approach would discourage people from skating up. For example, if the Bronze MIF event would have only Bronze moves in it, then people who have passed the Pre-Bronze MIF test are probably working on Bronze MIF, so the moves are something they've worked on before. However, someone skating up from Pre-Bronze would most likely not have started working intensively on a Silver move yet....

Edited to add that judging from the announcement, it seems that (unlike in other comps), lutz is not forbidden at the Pre-Bronze level.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:58 AM
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A layback for bronze? Who puts these things together? The gold moves are really wierd. I don't know if anyone is going to learn a move they are not working on for a competition. The spirals would be fun, but who has the time? Maybe if it was the novice counters, I'd do it, but again it's a time factor. There's barely enough to work on what I need to for Nationals!
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:43 AM
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It seems like that approach would discourage people from skating up. For example, if the Bronze MIF event would have only Bronze moves in it, then people who have passed the Pre-Bronze MIF test are probably working on Bronze MIF, so the moves are something they've worked on before. However, someone skating up from Pre-Bronze would most likely not have started working intensively on a Silver move yet....

Edited to add that judging from the announcement, it seems that (unlike in other comps), lutz is not forbidden at the Pre-Bronze level.
Um, as of September 1 of this year, the lutz was banned from Pre-Bronze freeskate. That was passed with all of the other rule changes.

If the required elements hurt anyone, it hurts those of us that are "on the bubble" to moving to the next level. Ezample: Those of us working on the Bronze moves/freestyle tests now would have been the ones doing the Bronze spin, Compulsory and Moves events if they simply put what is required on the tests! That is what, for the most part is required at both the Peach Classic and Halloween Classice competitions!
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:23 PM
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If you have problems with what they specify in the announcement, make your complaints known to the organizers.... might not help for this year, but might help for future years...
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:22 PM
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Um, as of September 1 of this year, the lutz was banned from Pre-Bronze freeskate. That was passed with all of the other rule changes.
Terri is right! If you look at this doc

http://www.usfigureskating.org/content/05Adults-ROA.pdf

...and scroll down to page 5 (Section 303), you'll see the newly proposed Pre-Bronze competitive level.

However, that does NOT prevent local competition (like NYI) from doing whatever they please. In the announcements for this year's Skate San Francisco, for instance, it specifically said for Pre-Bronze events that "No axels or double jumps are allowed" but DOES NOT say that lutz IS NOT allowed! (Nor does it mention about the new pre-Bronze well-balanced program either...though it DOES make reference to it in the other Adult levels!!!) Of course, all this nit-picking ended up being moot in the end anyway! [1]

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It seems like that approach would discourage people from skating up.
Well, if the organizer at NYI wanted to prevent skaters from skating up, they're dong a very good job of it! If I were to compete at NYI, I would NOT go into the Moves, CM, or spins events.

[1] No one attempted a lutz at Skate SF this year! Only two people at Skate SF attempted a flip this year: the gal who won the Pre-Bronze I & II (she landed hers! WOO HOO!!!), and yours truly (mine became this year's UHT/UHO! BLEEECH!!) in my event!
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Old 11-13-2005, 04:50 PM
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My artistic pair partner has decided to focus on school and not compete any more, so I'll be missing a wing. I don't know if my interp will be ready by the New Year's event, so not sure if I'll go.
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:20 PM
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My artistic pair partner has decided to focus on school and not compete any more, so I'll be missing a wing. I don't know if my interp will be ready by the New Year's event, so not sure if I'll go.
Sorry to hear that Flo , you and your partner looked good together at halloween.. I wont be doing the pairs interp either and I don't think Im going at all I have a lot to do before Christmas this year...so skating is on the back burner for now...I might pop down for a casual skate one day though... just for fun..
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:04 PM
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Well, if the organizer at NYI wanted to prevent skaters from skating up, they're dong a very good job of it! If I were to compete at NYI, I would NOT go into the Moves, CM, or spins events.
Amen to that jazz. I wouldn't even consider skating up to gold spins (and IMHO, gold spins looks harder that master's spins ).
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:04 AM
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Silver Spins at New Years

On the application for the silver spin event it asks for "any spin in both directions". Do they mean both counterclockwise and clockwise? They can't be serious! Do any of you spin in both directions?
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:30 AM
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On the application for the silver spin event it asks for "any spin in both directions". Do they mean both counterclockwise and clockwise? They can't be serious!
Yes, I do believe they mean both clockwise and counterclockwise spins. One of my team-mates from Aston is working on this and is having quite a bit of success with it. However, I can't say the same for myself.

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Do any of you spin in both directions?
Well, I'm a clockwise skater and on particularly nasty crashes on jumps I've been known to roll around on the ice in the counterclockwise direction after the initial tumble to the ice. However, I don't think that counts.

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