Yes! And as a coach, I think this is one of the biggest issues with skaters: lack of core body strength. A stronger core will prevent skaters from breaking at the waist, which limits the amount of height a skater can get on his/her jumps since such a position limits the flow of the free leg's knee. Some of this bending at the waist may also be attributed to a lack of knee bend in the skating leg. This might explain the whipping/scooping of the free leg because when a skater's body is bent in such a position, there's no way for the knee to go up; it must simply swing around.

Which all beginners do. But technically, the jump should leave the ice from a back inside edge - most of us do the first 1/2 rotation (or more, in my case!) on the ice, but that's actually as big a fault as doing a toe 3-jump instead of a proper toe loop (which should also take off backwards, and guess what, mine doesn't. Nor, I may say, does Husband's most of the time, but his Salchow does - he even got a 0 GOE on it last time he competed it, which is brilliant at our level).

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No I meant from the back of the blade, not a back edge. That's not the same thing, or is it?

Am I taking off forwards? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuBqeLb0-84 On the salchow I mean, I know I am on the toeloop. It feels like I take off backward.

Ugh this thread is messing with my head. What I mean is, don't you always get up on the toepick for an edge jump? I mean how can you jump off the backside of your blade? You'd need to push off with the heel, you can't jump that way? Or can you ?

You take off from the front of the blade. The tracing from the take-off foot will usually show a pick mark.

When I was first trying Sals I stayed on the middle-to-back of the blade. I did lots of nice LBI 3-turns that way.

You have to roll to the front of the blade.

I still do half-baked sals.

language barrier =-) Jump out like in a waltz jump. You take off from an outside edge, kinda off the big toe. Clear as rain huh?

teresa

I just meant that it will mess you up if you keep your free leg back until takeoff (like a flip jump) instead of bringing it to the side of your takeoff leg just as you're about to jump. You get a nice little curl/torque on the takeoff edge if you square your shoulders and hips (hence, free leg to the side of takeoff leg) before leaving the ice.

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You don't take off from the back of your blade, I think you misunderstood MrsRedboots. Don't think about taking off from the toe pick. A good jump should have the toe pick leave the ice last, but that's just a by-product of rocking forward and pointing the foot to get maximum push into the jump.

Watching your videos, you're really going around and making a deep, curly 3-turn on both jumps. Try to flatten it out more, especially on the toe loop. It's good to have deep edges on 3-turns, but in the context of jumping it's not helpful.

For example, look where you push off for the RFI edge into the toe loop. You're parallel to the short end of the arena and the blue line on the ice. But you're pulling the turn around too much, and you end up going more than 180 degrees - you're almost facing the end of the arena, that's a 270 degree turn! You're actually pulling your left foot too far behind you, and you end up with your left shoulder open. It really helps me to practice toe loops on a line to keep them straight.

On the salchow, check your free leg straight back after the turn. You're bringing it far too high and out to the side. It should be behind you like you're going to do a flip. Don't lift it up, keep it lower.

I think these jumps look pretty solid, but you definitely have the ability to make them much stronger and awesome. Your knee bend is good and you get good lift. Just check!!

ok I think I unbedazzled my mind again.