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Old 10-24-2007, 09:53 PM
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the half-loop is commonly refered to as an "euler" (pronounced oylur) in the Netherlands and I think in some other European countries as well.
OMG - I suddenly remembered this jump from my roller days. We pronounced it U-ler, and I had forgotten it existed.

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No, all I know is that it's also what the English wikipedia refers to a half-loop as in its roller skating article.
http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/A...roller_skating
Though both ice and roller skaters perform the Euler jump (called a "half-loop" by ice skaters), it is more common in roller skating programs, as lengthy multi-jump combinations are emphasized in roller skating judging. The Euler is a useful connecting jump in such combinations; for example, a five-jump combination might include a waltz jump, loop, Mapes, Euler, and a salchow.
And now I know I really do remember it and am not just imagining it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:57 AM
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I like bunny hops! Especially as they're one of the few moves I'm better than Husband at, and I can do them on both feet and make him do them on both feet, too, in our programmes and dances.

The way I learnt them was: first you kick the bunny in the stomach, then, when he doubles over, you stomp on the back of his neck! Not very pleasant, but at least it's a graphic image you don't forget.
Not to be a complete spoilsport, but as a person who shares her home with bunnies (yes, they live in the house and use the litter box just like cats), I'd really appreciate it if you didn't quote this to people who may not have as much common sense and affection for animals as our well-behaved and thoughtful forum members). Thank you!

Oh, and as I mentioned earlier, I would not mind if this jump completely disappeared from the skating world. One of the worst falls I've ever taken was on a bunny hop.
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:49 AM
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OMG - I suddenly remembered this jump from my roller days. We pronounced it U-ler, and I had forgotten it existed.

And now I know I really do remember it and am not just imagining it.
Heh, yeah it feels somehow different than a single half-loop when you plant it in a combination, especially with a salchow behind it. With a flip they felt more half-loopy to me. By the way the flip-loop-toeloop-euler-salchow-euler-waltz jump combination they made us do once was spooooky. I never actually made it to the waltz jump, lol, neither did anybody else in our group haha.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:48 AM
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They call "bunny hops" forward power jumps now in Skate Canada- world.

My kid was given a list of 'thou shalt nots" when when she started assistant coaching CanSkate. One was "thou shalt not" use the term "bunny hop" (or, weirdly, Waltz Jump) when speaking to kids or parents.

Because the hockey dads and mums got all freaky over the idea of their future Sydney Crosbie (sp?) doing something as wussy as a bunny hop. Now FORWARD POWER JUMP sounds cool, right?

Baby DD has this "thing" about jumps, she grew up watching axel type and 'real jump' takeoffs, and when she was starting her CanSkate 1 "two foot jump" at age 3-1/2 we couldn't figure out what was going on, until we realized she was doing a kick thru attempt to do a front takeoff jump (axel, waltz, something) ... like big brother and sister. So, we told her to "hop like a bunny" - and she promptly put both hands upside of her helmet to make bunny ears and hopped like a rabbit across the ice (maybe she'll get extra points for a unique move ...)

(p.s. I'm not letting our pet rabbit see this thread, even though she does bite me regularly).

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Old 10-25-2007, 09:04 AM
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They call "bunny hops" forward power jumps now in Skate Canada- world.

My kid was given a list of 'thou shalt nots" when when she started assistant coaching CanSkate. One was "thou shalt not" use the term "bunny hop" (or, weirdly, Waltz Jump) when speaking to kids or parents.

Because the hockey dads and mums got all freaky over the idea of their future Sydney Crosbie (sp?) doing something as wussy as a bunny hop. Now FORWARD POWER JUMP sounds cool, right?

Baby DS has this "thing" about jumps, she grew up watching axel type and 'real jump' takeoffs, and when she was starting her CanSkate 1 "two foot jump" at age 3-1/2 we couldn't figure out what was going on, until we realized she was doing a kick thru attempt to do a front takeoff jump (axel, waltz, something) ... like big brother and sister. So, we told her to "hop like a bunny" - and she promptly put both hands upside of her helmet to make bunny ears and hopped like a rabbit across the ice (maybe she'll get extra points for a unique move ...)

(p.s. I'm not letting our pet rabbit see this thread, even though she does bite me regularly).
I really LIKE "forward power jumps" much better as a name. As I've said before, I've NEVER seen a rabbit hop in anything that looks like a bunny hop/forward power jump and we've had rabbits for about 15 years (not including the one I had as a kid.)

As for the bunny bites... is she confusing you with a treat because you're so sweet? or is she just a moody rabbit?
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:52 AM
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My coach likes all kinds of forward hops, forward to backward hops ......
so I can do a variety. I remember learning the bunny hop in an all adult class with an older, tiny, but well endowded teacher. She was demonstrating and Boing! We decided that bunny hops were not for adults.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:33 AM
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We had a youngster end up with a boot-top fracture ... coach decided to have your break in her brand-new, first-time-with-a-real-toepick skates by doing a sequence of bunny hops down the ice.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:24 PM
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"first you kick the bunny in the stomach, then, when he doubles over, you stomp on the back of his neck!"

There'll always be an England. (Meant in the best possible way!)
Except that I was taught that by a Californian skater.....

And for me, growing up in the country, rabbits are a pest, rather than a pet. We never did have pet rabbits, although I believe they do make wonderful companion animals.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:40 AM
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Hahaha, all this bunny hop hatin' is pain to my ears!
Haha, me too, and I'm sort of surprised at all this animosity towards bunny hops!

Re your tips below... is that meant for those jumping "the other way"? Well, there's no turn in the bunny hop, but I'm a regular CCW skater, and I'm used to kicking through with my R leg

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If you want a little advice to help make them a little more bearable, one thing I always have my students do when first learning a bunny hop is to literally have them walk through it on ice, usually while holding on to the wall. I see you've already learned how painful this little jump can become if you lean too far back. Try this:

1. Stand holding on the the boards with your left leg extended behind you. You may want to keep your left arm in front and your right arm behind you while holding the boards...
2. Swing your left leg through straight (nothing hurts my eyes like a bent knee in a bunny hop) while going all the way up on your right toe. This is the part where it helps tremendously not to lean too far back!
3. After bringing your left leg though and balancing while holding on to the wall on your right toe, slowly step down feeling your right toe hit the ice first and slowly glide forward on your left foot to finish.

Repeat, repeat, repeat until you feel comforable enough to do this exercise away from the wall. Remember that your arms must also work in a scissor-motion (not using them at all may be causing you to lean back and fall down).

A few practices with this exercise and you should have a perfect bunny hop! Works for my students every time!
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