i have a question what jump was the most hard to learn?

The first one.

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I agree with Rusty Blades...that first jump is a leap of faith....

For me, it took FOREVER for me to land my singles, but once I did, they all came pretty quickly...Now, I am struggling with the axel....but I have struggled with that jump since I was 13/14...I am so close to landing it clean and I hope that it happens soon!

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It varies somewhat, but in general it's the axel. That's the scariest jump to try. An odd thing I've noticed is that some people have an easy time with the toe loop and a hard time with the flip, and for others it the other way around.

I haven't started on my axel yet but what is killing me is the toe loop. So easy to do yet so hard to do correctly...toe-waltz anyone.

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Must be the salchow for me since I haven't learned it yet. I find it very confusing.

DD had trouble with double salchow when that is usually most people's first jump - she used to win the jump events in like prelim because she couldn't do a 2 salchow so she would go for the double flip and if she could land it, she'd win because everyone at that level was doing a 2 salchow.

Now it's the 2 toe that is her nemesis in the Novice free test. She'd have a better chance of passing it if a 2 lutz was required.

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I don't have all my jumps, but I can see myself getting others (flip, lutz) before I get a loop. Loop is without a doubt my hardest. I am not left side dominant, and this jump (for CW) takes off and lands on the left leg. I don't have the strength in my quad to get myself off the ice with enough space to rotate- even off ice I can barely hop more than an inch or so on that side. My sides are very muscle imbalanced. I think there is a likely hood I might be able to do this on my right side, but then I'd be rotating the wrong way and it's not a loop.

The flip and lutz are going to be about rotation and spring in the jump. I can do the half jumps without a problem, and just need to get height, which I'm confident I can do because it's not ALL about the left leg. But that loop- that's an awful jump.

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I have found (and coach has commented) that when I do just a loop, they are okay...nothing huge, but they get so much bigger when I do them as the second jump in a combo....my flip/loop can be absolutely huge....maybe try a waltz/loop to see if that helps....

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I dislike jumps with a shift of balance, that is, salchow, toeloop... Loop is easier than they are.

YEAH!!!!

After that, the rest were just a struggle with technique (I had to re-learn because of bad technique of basic skating skills that was taught)...

-toe-loop: difficult because 3-turns were messed up and not learning the "scoop"
-loop: hard because I was taught the 1/2 loop first (and I can actually do it well, BUT now I struggle with landing the loop on the correct foot)
-salchow: still working on this because of sucky 3-turns initially taught

but I'm getting there!!!

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I think the axel is the hardest, for me but once I got it, it was there. I have had to work hard for the correct edge on the lutz. And learning to do doubles the sow and toe, the same way every time has escaped me.

Maybe I'll have more luck the 4th time round.

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I find the double salchow is the hardest jump to learn. I don't why but I still have problems with it. I can do every double including double axel, but I can not have a very consitent double salchow.

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Axels were the hardest for me to learn, but they are definitely one of my best jumps now.

I had issues with the double toe for years, even while I could do rock solid 2sal, 2loop and 2flip. Fortunately something eventually clicked and it is now very secure. 2axel is tough

My toe loop is the easiest to do but HARDEST to do RIGHT!!!

My loop was my PITA jump!!! I still don't always land them consistently but the odds are now stacked well in landing it clean. (But in combo with another loop is another story now... ) So I'm glad now that that it's becoming one of my better jumps now (or at least that's what secondary coach says. I STILL don't believe it since I don't always get it.)

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Has to be axel. I worked on it for yrs and never really got a good one. 2sal worked better for me.

Kay

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The axel is just a whole 'nother animal compared to all of the single revolution jumps.

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It took my daughter a good two years for her axel.She hung in there and didnt give up. Now, its a great jump!!
She has a double sal but I think she will have issues with double toe too.Working on double loop maybe easier!

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Of the ones I've learned it has to be the loop. Took me about 6 months of just sitting on my back outside edge before I could work out the faintest idea of the mechanics of this jump. It didn't help that I find the RBO edge the hardest of all my edges to fully control.

Now I quite like it and am practising hard on getting into it at speed - a whole different ball game. I've managed it once and it felt fantastic but mostly I wimp out if I go into it with speed.

Currently my nemesis would have to be the Lutz - I'm still at the 'how on earth does this work?! ' stage.

And whether I'll ever get to attempt an axel I don't know.

I agree - I haven't the first idea how a loop jump works! I can see what one would have to do to get an axel (not that I even want to do one), but not a loop jump! Or a lutz, either, come to that. But then, I don't like jumping much anyway - too old, too heavy, no fast-twitch muscles in the legs (never have had).

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Iv come close to landing Triple toe and Salchow , However . Can't do a loop to save my life.. and only on a good day can I do double Sal.. Go figure..

It felt like ages until I learnt loop (4 months until I got it from xo's, properly) and I thought I'd never get it.... now it's the axel! so hard!!

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I haven't tried an axel yet, that'll probably be the one...but for now ...that flip! It took me years to get that thing and then it went away and now I'm trying to get it again. I could say the same for the lutz but I'm not quite there with doing it at all yet.

OK, and doing the toe loop correctly, like Jazzpants said - I've been toe-waltzing them all along

The loop's been a party compared to those others and the salchow - well, I'm doing it correctly, but it's not great.

(jumps in general are my nemesis lately)

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axel, then double axel, then triple and so on, since its the next step up revolution wise. I think that not including those jumps, it really depends on the skater

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i dread that jump! i seriously learned my salchow, loop, and toe loop faster than that.

my flip is giving me quite a bit of a hard time, i have a feeling ill get my lutz b/f my flip only b/c my half lutz is 10x better than my half flip.