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Old 08-22-2010, 03:45 PM
phoenix phoenix is offline
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Yeah, it's so glamorous to get up at 5:00 a.m. on a Saturday to stand on the ice for 3 hours!! I'm one of the few people on the planet who hates Saturdays....

--And I'm certainly no celebrity, but I'm a good low level coach.
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Old 08-22-2010, 04:22 PM
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As I've said often, skating and coaching are two very different skills. I believe there are quite a few here who agree with that statement.
Yup! My secondary coach is no celebrity and is the cheapest out of the 3 coaches I have, but she's probably the best bargain I've ever had. Not to say my other coaches aren't worth the money. I wouldn't take them if they weren't. AAMOF, my "celeb coach" admits that he's no better a coach than all the other coaches out there.
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:37 PM
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Yeah, it's so glamorous to get up at 5:00 a.m. on a Saturday to stand on the ice for 3 hours!! I'm one of the few people on the planet who hates Saturdays....
Count me in, and add Sundays too!
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Old 08-22-2010, 06:00 PM
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Most of my coaching is late afternoon/evening, so I'm no glamour queen at that time of the day, having started work at 7am.

I do think that most workshops and seminars intended for instructors or coaches are good, so good that regular skaters should consider them as part of their own education plans.

Those events are usually well-planned since the attendees are knowledgeable and experienced in skating. The information is delivered in a very forward manner and networking is encouraged.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:15 PM
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What is the distinction between a teacher and coach?
A coach should be a good teacher, but needs to be a lot more- a much more personal relationship needs to form- they need to be a good motivator, a good planner (see into the future with where you might be going, and plan to take you there), a guide to the skating world, an advocate when necessary, etc.

An instructor should also be a good teacher, but they are much less personal. To me an instructor is usually the leader of a learn to skate group class, the coach (who 90% of the time is also an instructor) is primarily private lessons, or a group they put together of their own students.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:05 PM
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As an unemployed ("self employed"?) computer programmer, coaching for cash would look pretty good to me. Even movie actors and models experience some unpleasantness. It's part of any real world job, even glamorous ones.

You are on the ice, you are making people happy (more or less) and be all (more or less) they can be. How wonderful!

It's all a matter of attitude.

Please put your coaching hat on. How would you as a real "coach" convince you that coaching was glamorous and fun again?

Coach, coach thyself.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:25 PM
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I have never thought that coaching was glamerous, but it is my passion and I dearly love it. It's fun, but not always, and it's also a ton of hard work. I think the things I like best about it are the interactions with other people and the creativity required in the teaching aspects. I do feel incredibly lucky to be able to do work I love. I know at least one celebrity coach who simply doesn't have any other skills or he/she would be doing something else.
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:18 PM
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I did ask the coach about the clinics, but she had no more information about them than I did and didn't know how useful they would be.

Of course, if it was a real celebrity along the lines of Frank Carroll or Kurt Browning, there would be no question!
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