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Old 11-06-2007, 11:27 AM
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Well, based on an earlier post the required element isn't strictly a layback. It's a layback or a sideways leaning spin. I think that although we tend to associate the two as being the same or very similar, there are those variations of upright spins that are sideways-leaning that do not resemble a layback at all.

Take the following as an example.



In this picture, Stephane's skating leg is well above the height required for a sit spin so this spin could be called an upright. Although his upper body is pitched foward quite a bit, it is also clearly leaning over to one side. I'm not a technical specialist and I'm also not a judge at NYI, but in my opinion, this would satisfy the requirement for a sideways leaning spin and it certainly doesn't look like a layback at all.

That being the case, I wouldn't anticipate that guys would withdraw from silver compulsory moves based on that one required elment alone. That's just my two cents.

Hey Frank. I also thought of these twisted positions that you showed an example of and wondered if that would meet the requirement. But then I remembered that the description of the senior ladies layback requirement is where you see the "sideways leaning spin" language. So I figured that's what they meant.

But even if they did accept something like the Stephane position, I'd still find that a strange requirement for Silver men. This seems fairly difficult for the level, and unless you happen to have been working on something like this, you're probably not going to figure it out in time.

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Old 11-06-2007, 11:39 AM
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The previous year is not a good indication.
In the past, the FS events have been on Sat. AM, Sat. PM, or Sun. AM.
True, thanks Stevo, are you competing?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:08 PM
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True, thanks Stevo, are you competing?
I had no idea that Steve-O was into figure skating?!?!?!



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Old 11-06-2007, 12:11 PM
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This seems fairly difficult for the level, and unless you happen to have been working on something like this, you're probably not going to figure it out in time.

Tim
I agree that it's not easy. I've been playing around with sideways leaning spins like this for a couple of years now and I still don't really have it down. However, if eventually all adult skating will be judged under IJS, it can't hurt to play around with stuff like this.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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Oh boy, dont get on that topic! All adult competitions judged on IJS. Hope to be long since dead by then!

Cant wait to see those pre-bronzer's trying to do change of edge spins! Well some do now, but I dont think it's on purpose! GRRRRRRRR!

Sorry, you caught me on a student free day with time to chime in!
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:24 PM
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I had no idea that Steve-O was into figure skating?!?!?!
HEY!!! That looks like one of my poses!!!

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:54 PM
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True, thanks Stevo, are you competing?
No idea. I don't even have a program yet. But I can do a sideways-leaning spin!
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:44 PM
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No idea. I don't even have a program yet. But I can do a sideways-leaning spin!
Lucky you I cant spin
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:48 PM
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My pairs partner and I did them together - very cool.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:45 PM
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How do you do a sideways leaning spin with another person?
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:47 PM
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Any Masters-level men planning to enter NYI this year? A friend of mine is planning to skate & would love to know he'll have company in his event.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:58 AM
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They were side by side laybacks, though a pair spin would be interesting!
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:27 PM
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Thanks, Flo...that would be interesting! I'm very impressed! How long have you been skating pairs?
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:04 AM
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I've been skating pairs at various levels for about 10 years. My first partner and I were pretty much still learning to skate. I've been fortunate to have great coaching!
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:43 PM
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The deadline has been extended to the 11th. I was going to go, but looked again at the entry fees and decided I'd rather spend it on lessons!

These competitions are getting pricey.
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Old 12-07-2007, 03:53 PM
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I would have loved to go but they moved the date this year!

I wonder if they have a light turnout because of the move and that's why the deadline was extended.
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:24 AM
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I actually prefer the new date. It's nice to spread the competitions out a bit.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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Hey guys-
I decided at the last minute to enter the gold FS event. Decided not to do the spins event b/c I can't do a camel-back camel or whatever else is required. Who here is going? I need a new dress now.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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I'm doing Bronze FS and skating up to Silver spins.

I didn't enter Bronze spins b/c Bronze spins had a backspin and a side-leaning spin or broken-leg sit. I haven't worked seriously on the backspin in a while, and I wanted to focus on other things instead of leaning a side-leaning spin or broken-leg. I doubt I'll be competitive in Silver spins, but it looked fun, especially the open combo spin. I'm trying out various combo spins; not sure what I'll eventually do.
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