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Old 05-06-2005, 02:47 PM
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Now the car is in the shop. Grrrr. Hopefully I can get a ride.
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Old 05-06-2005, 03:11 PM
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Good luck with that Ill see you tomorrow. I was very tired today just spins no jumps. Yesterday was great , landed my first three jump combination.
Russian split double toe,double toe. I was still flying across the ice after the last jump. I was thrilled.
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Old 05-06-2005, 03:34 PM
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Yesterday was great , landed my first three jump combination.
Russian split double toe,double toe.
Cool! But wouldn't that be a sequence, not a combination, because you have to do a 3-turn before the first double toe??
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:27 PM
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Flo, I hope you can get a ride. Unfortunately, we are not going your way (we are coming up from lower Delaware). We are bringing the kids to they can do the Spring Fling thing.

Good night everyone and have a safe drive in the morning! See you there! (Hubby says he will drive at least as fast as the posted speed limit and we will get there in plenty of time-as long as we are there in time to check in & settle ourselves!)

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Old 05-09-2005, 10:26 AM
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Any reports on the seminar?
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:50 AM
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Well, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sore!! That first class was tough!

I'm a pre-bronzer so I went to the "low end" of the rink for stuff and didn't do the jump part. The rest of it: "WOW"

I'm still writing everything I can remember down in my journal before it's forgotten.... I was really impressed with the whole thing.

I've never seen anyone spin like Don Jackson! And such a nice guy! He did a 2-foot spin, with his feet about shoulder width apart, and while he was still going round and round, lifted one leg up and still kept going!!! Then he turned it into a 1-foot spin! He showed us the basics of doing that, for a regular spin and for backspins.

Anyone else??
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:26 PM
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I'm incredibly sore, too! Could barely move yesterday, but I'm doing much better today.

We had a fantastic (but killer) workout in the morning with former Olympic cyclist Jackie Martin. If I'd known it was going to be so intense I would have used my inhaler before we got going! I'm not much of an exercise-in-the-morning person to begin with, coupled with the fact that I have neglected my off ice training for awhile, I was worn out before we even hit the ice.

The day ended with a flexibility type class called BalletTone & I think the consensus was, that maybe these two classes should have been switched in order.

I totally agree with Skate@Delaware about Don Jackson. He's an amazing skater, really nice guy & has lots of great stories.
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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I really felt that for an "Edge" clinic we should have spent some time on um I dunno...EDGES and MIF!!! The few spin exercises Don Jackson gave were great and his exercise for axels too. I felt the Off ice time was WAY TOO LONG and WAY TOO INTENSE! I am in great shape...I was not able to Jump well at the end of the Day...I had done too much already.. The jump portion should have been more organized.... relay people through the jumps...I did not have enough space to do good aproach( I am a guy so I need SPACE!)

I did not appreciate the DANCE pair on the Ice during the Liz Manley time....HOW RUDE WAS THAT!!!!!
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:48 PM
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Hi,
The nicest part was to see everyone. My skates are just a week old, and I was concerned about how I'd do, but we really didn't do much on the ice.

I also thought that the off ice sections were too long. The goal of a clinic is to learn things you can take home and put in practice if desired. The warm up and second off ice session were both more of what a regular excercise session would be. I would like to have seen them both cut at least in half and also provded handouts from the first session so you could remember what you did if you wanted to incorporate this at home.

I would also have liked to have had much of what was done on ice to have been completed off ice. It would have been great to do the artistic excercises in front of the mirrors. We could have used the off ice time to ask questions and have tracings drawn and so on, and the on ice time for actual skating. There was a great deal of standing around and getting cold. It was rather a large group and was difficult to get any jumps in, and the dance team on the ice made it more difficult. Dividing the groups by levels would have helped. Although reviewing the basics is always good, I would have liked to work on doubles and advanced spins.

I probably got most out of Don's sessions. His understanding of edges and spins was very helpful. Liz's comments were also very helpful, although the time could have been better utilized. Overall the staff was very supportive of adult skating and very open to questions. Although I enjoyed the experience and seeing people, at this level I would arrange for private lessons with the coaches rather than another workshop.
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:34 PM
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I agree that the "killer" workout could have been switched with the ballet class-I don't warm up like that before I skate-I'll get too worn out to do anything! My legs were jelly by lunchtime and useless by dinnertime....

I would also like to see it divided up next year maybe into two groups, maybe pre-bronze/bronze then silver/gold? I don't know. There were a lot of people on the ice for the jump portion-maybe too many at once!

I don't know what the deal was with the dance couple either???

Mirrors for the artistry part would be nice-but after the comment my daughter made I don't know if I have any 'artistic blood' in me....(something about a crippled and dying crow-I'll get even with her later .)

I don't know what Liz said about jumping (I only waltz jump for now)-I was at the other end with the other pre-bronzers...learning 'scallops' and something to do with our edges...'let the edges turn you and do all the work'.

I am planning on going next year. Hopefully, more people from my rink can make it.
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Old 05-09-2005, 03:17 PM
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I also was/am very sore! I had to skate for 2 hours yesterday and was dreading it (as going down stairs and getting in/out of the car was quite painful), but I felt better on the ice yesterday than on dry land. I was still pretty sore on the ice, and was thankful that my lesson was cancelled, as I didn't know how I'd muster the power needed...

I agree that the off-ice portions could have been shorter. I think switching them might have been effective, except I know all of that leaping over cones from the plyometric session would have been even harder on a full stomach!

For my level, I thought that Don Jackson's and Liz Manley's advice was very helpful, and the other coaches who presented/assisted at and observed the workshop were also very helpful and supportive. It was useful to have Liz Manley's input on the common errors she sees in jumps and jump combinations.

Perhaps in future workshops, the on-ice portions could have a little more dedicated to the higher level jumps (axel and doubles and above), as I noticed there were a number of people at that level and not much time was devoted to those jumps. Perhaps more time could be devoted to moves and footwork in general (such as the harder one-foot turns or ways to improve footwork sequences in a program). I liked that the skaters were all on the ice at one time--I liked being able to see what the more advanced skaters were working on and the feedback they were getting.

I was and still am blown away by how great a skater Don Jackson still is. From just a FO3, he did a double salchow! He also landed a two-footed double loop! And he was very nice (and he writes with his left hand and skates clockwise--yay!) I thought it was very cool that he took Jackie Martin's off-ice class with all the rest of us.

(I also bought a fabulous purple velvet skirt in the pro shop. Skate@Delaware, I was talking with you and your daughter in the shop, wasn't I? I realized it was probably you on the drive home...)
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Old 05-10-2005, 08:45 AM
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(I also bought a fabulous purple velvet skirt in the pro shop. Skate@Delaware, I was talking with you and your daughter in the shop, wasn't I? I realized it was probably you on the drive home...)
Ok, now I can put 'the face' with the name! Obviously you made it home ok. We stopped at Dover to eat, and it took 2 hours to get our food (forgot it was prom night). So even though it only took us about 1.5 hours to drive UP to Aston, it took us 3+ hours to get home! (I'm still tired!)

How did you skirt look? It is such a pretty color!

Hopefully, next year I can do more jumps than a waltz. I can 'fake' my way through a toe-loop but only sloooowly. I loved watching everyone jump-wow, was it loud!

I don't know if anyone else knows this, but the Liberty Summer Competition at Aston will be taped for broadcast on cable channel CN8 July 24. I don't know if it will be simulcast on the internet. So, that's one I will WATCH instead....
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Old 05-10-2005, 03:20 PM
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Ok, now I can put 'the face' with the name! Obviously you made it home ok. We stopped at Dover to eat, and it took 2 hours to get our food (forgot it was prom night). So even though it only took us about 1.5 hours to drive UP to Aston, it took us 3+ hours to get home! (I'm still tired!)

How did you skirt look? It is such a pretty color!
Three hours!? That is the weirdness of Delaware traffic! My friends in Newcastle have a friend who lives near them, but because of where the friend is, it sometimes takes longer for them to go to the friend's house than it does for them to get to Rodney Square in Wilmington. I personally get all turned around when I'm driving in Delaware and my friends finally pinpointed why--in Delaware, 95 is going more east than it is north, but in my mind, it is going "up," so I figure it's going north.

The skirt worked out fine after I sewed the side vents shut, so that the briefs underneath were not showing so much. It goes well with the many other purple skating clothes I own. (I didn't acquire so many purple things on purpose, I swear!)
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Old 05-10-2005, 05:52 PM
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Mikawendy:
I should clarify:
1 hour to drive from Aston to Dover
2 hours sitting at Red Lobster waiting for our food
during which time I was soooo dehydrated I downed 4 glasses of raspberry lemonade which left little room for food (I stuffed anyway-it was so good)
20 minutes on to Milford, then fall into bed......

Of course, if it had been summertime on a Friday, it would have been 2 hours sitting in traffic (if we had been dumb enough to do that without going the back roads). I work in Dover and have seen traffic backed up from Dover all the way south through Milford. Luckily, I know about 3 backroads (well, there are only about 3) to take me home without hitting the highways.

Terry
still feeling the pain...
PS-I think I caught Don Jackson's cold...He was next to me in the exercise class
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Old 05-10-2005, 07:58 PM
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Adult clinic PA update.

g-day Friends

I have been asked to pass this on to you all. There seems to have been some confusion in the last hour of the clinic at Ice works. I have spoken to Ushi about the situation some of you mentioned about the dance team. It turns out that we where actualy on there ice. Liz Manley could not make it in the morning so they extended the clinic an hour to allow us to be on the ice with Liz. The dance team where already scheduled for the ice and it was a try out for the young man who came from Germany to skate with the girl. I hope this clears things up for you all. as an Ice Works skater Im sorry if there was some confusion on this.
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