No joy :( - Page 2

phoenix · #26 02-20-2007, 06:42 PM

Sorry about the outcome Annabel, but three cheers to you for trying it anyway! You've worked very hard to get through those, and you should be proud of yourself.

Mrs Redboots · #27 02-21-2007, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TashaKat

I'm so sorry that you didn't get them ... I do think, though, that at only 0.3 below they could have been a little let's say generous!!!

No, neither of us skated well enough to pass, and we accept that! Far more irritating, actually, knowing that we didn't skate as well as we are able than being able to blame the judge! Much though I would like to blame my particular judge, given what she did to me at the British Adults.... but that was a long time ago, and she did say I was nearly there. And the Husband did have his moves passable a couple of months ago, but they are and were inconsistent.

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What will you do now? Have you thought of what your next step will be?

Next thing is the Coupe de France in a month's time, which should be fun. At least, it will be fun if Husband gets his free programme up and running, which given that he hasn't touched it since he tested his Level 1 Free last year, might be problematical! He plans to put in another couple of combination jumps now that he can do loop jumps on the end of things.

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All the best to you, I heard from Will this morning which was nice

Haven't seen him since the British Adults - are he and his partner skating this year, and are they doing the Coupe de France, do you know?

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Originally Posted by Scarlett

Sorry to hear about your test but I love your attitude. I'm very curious about the british testing system. Is there a link anywhere to where I could see the rules and patterns?

I don't think so, NISA isn't good at that sort of thing. I see you can see a video of the Skate UK levels, but that costs £5.00 (about US $10), so probably not worth it!

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Originally Posted by BatikatII

Either way it is such a relief to get tests over and done with and you can go have fun with the fun side of skating now Annabel! When is your next comp? That's more fun than moves!

Much more fun! 24-25 March, in Le Havre.

kateskate · #28 02-21-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BatikatII

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't ever get the new level 3 because of the spiral moves either - the inside to outside and vice versa change edge for interbronze was bad enough but the same thing in a spiral position - no way - not ever!!!!! If I'd not passed I don't think I'd have bothered to even try those! I've seen the video of the new moves and am

Can't remember them exactly now for level 5 - I do have a list somewhere but the only one I have a hope of getting anytime soon was the one foot slaloms which are the same as current (for another week or so) interbronze slaloms but you have to do them from a standstill (well two pushes I think) which is harder than being able to go into them with some speed. And although you only do half a side of them instead of a full side, you still have to do all 4 types (forward and back on each foot). They have been rather cunning and though they have reduced the number of moves to 4 (from the FM's 6), some things have been combined so what would have counted as two different moves are now contained within one move

Back changes of edge is the other one I can recall offhand - also

I think the back spin is on the Free passport - do you have to do both sets of passports if you want to test both disciplines later? The backspin doesn't come up again in the Free levels til level 2 so what on earth is it doing in passport?? And I share your incredulity at 14 step being on passport and then not on the proper tests again til level 5 or something - how stupid!!

To answer Kateskate too: I tested dance moves level 1 and 2 when I was doing dance and never got around to testing level 3 dance moves. Then I started doing more free and my new coach (as of a year ago) started teaching me a few field moves but I didnt' think seriously about testing moves til the summer. Then I thought I'd have to do level 3 dance moves before I could test interbronze field moves so I emailed David Wood at Nisa. He said that because the dance moves and field moves had been given equivalence in preparation for the change to 'skating moves' I had a choice to either test level 3 dance moves or to take the next field move test above the one that was equivalent to level 2 dance moves (which was prelim) so I could go straight from level 2 (dance) to level 4 (Interbronze Field moves) since field moves did not at that time have a level 3 equivalent for me to do - yay! Must be the first time NISA's strange rules have ever worked in my (or anyones's) favour.

Field moves : dance moves equivalents

novice : dance level 1

prelim : dance level 2,

no equivalent : dance level 3

interbronze : dance level 4

no equivalent : dance level 5

bronze : dance level 6
etc

Your skater Annabel was trying to do it the other way round so was caught out by the trap of dance moves having more levels. If I had taken prelim field moves and then wanted to take the next dance moves test, I would have had to take level 3 since you are not allowed to skip a level within the discipline. Bronze moves also needs two judges to test so that may be why they couldn't do it if only JB was there - maybe the other judge you mentioned was there was not high enough judging level.

You are credited with the moves in the other discipline at the same level but you can't skip levels within a discipline. So level 2 credited me with prelim and the next test is interbronze. But prelim FM's would have credited me only with level 2 Dance moves so the next dance test would be level 3.
So Kateskate I reckon you did not need to do prelim but it depends how long ago it was since I think the equivalencies came in one or two years ago .

Phew thanks! I feel my head is full of information!

I did prelim about 3 years ago so it I wouldn't have been allowed to skip it. I quite liked doing it at the time though.

New level 5 is back change of edge, one foot slaloms, back double threes (inside and outside) and open Choctaws.

Also, you only need one judge for bronze field moves. It's anything over level 6 that needs 2 as far as I know. And I only had one judge this morning.

BatikatII · #29 02-21-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kateskate

Phew thanks! I feel my head is full of information!

I did prelim about 3 years ago so it I wouldn't have been allowed to skip it. I quite liked doing it at the time though.

New level 5 is back change of edge, one foot slaloms, back double threes (inside and outside) and open Choctaws.

Also, you only need one judge for bronze field moves. It's anything over level 6 that needs 2 as far as I know. And I only had one judge this morning.

Sorry! - got carried away on the info front there!

Inside back double 3's will take me quite some time to get I think- and open choctaws

. Anyway I am giving 'moves' a rest for a while, though on the whole I did rather enjoy the challenge of getting them passable in a very limited timespan and dance coach loves teaching moves and makes it quite fun really. I need to do some catching up with the dance disciplines now though, since I now have levels 1 variation, 2 CD, 3 free dance and 4 moves, so I think some levelling off is in order!

And you are quite right of course about only one judge for bronze. I was confused as our only bronze tester (another adult) tested first along with the intersilvers who do need two judges but I realise now that was only because she had to go to work after and nothing to do with the judges!

I have practised all the prelim FM's since at one time I was going to test those rather than dance level 2's, or as well as, and then they brought in the equivalencies and it would have just been extra cash for NISA

The one that I did worst was probably the back outside edges but since I got new boots and blades most of the problem with those (being too much forward on the toepicks) seemed to disappear.

Sk8pdx · #30 02-21-2007, 10:00 PM

Mr. and Mrs Redboots, awwww sorry to hear that your test didn't go so well. While there's not so much joy in a single failed test moment, there's still always time to celebrate love of skating overall! Enjoy a cyber platefull of chocolate covered strawberries and your favorite beverage anyway!

~sk8pdx

Thin-Ice · #31 02-22-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kateskate

Also, you only need one judge for bronze field moves. It's anything over level 6 that needs 2 as far as I know. And I only had one judge this morning.

I'm interested in the ways different skating associations handle their details. So if you only need two judges for your Level 6 test, does that mean if one passes you and the other "invites you to retry", you fail the test? On most US tests, we have three judges on test panels, so you need "only" two out of three judges to pass.

Mrs Redboots · #32 02-22-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sk8pdx

Mr. and Mrs Redboots, awwww sorry to hear that your test didn't go so well. While there's not so much joy in a single failed test moment, there's still always time to celebrate love of skating overall! Enjoy a cyber platefull of chocolate covered strawberries and your favorite beverage anyway!

~sk8pdx

Oh, we did that - we went home and had a breakfast consisting of bucks' fizz (mimosa, on your side of the Pond!), scrambled eggs and smoked salmon. The eggs were going to be served on half a bagel, as a treat, but the bagels turned out to be cinnamon-and-raisin, so we had them on toast instead.

And very good they were, too!

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