Nasty or Nice: 29 Nov - 5 Dec - Page 4

doubletoe · #76 12-08-2004, 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=starskate6.0
I still do shows in local clubs and other places on request on my Stilts , but please don't ever ask me to skate Freestyle .

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What a great story!! But aren't you going to skate freestyle now? Isn't that why you need to take your Gold test? I was once told that I was "lucky to be a natural jumper rather than a natural spinner because with time, spinning can be learned, but if you aren't a jumper, you will never be a jumper." Now slowly but surely, the spins are coming along. . . so maybe it's true!

Keep us apprised of your progress because I just love this story, LOL!

flo · #77 12-08-2004, 04:46 PM

On spinning: My coach nearly fell over when I finally centered a scratch spin! I had a layback, sit and reasonable camel, but the scratch....

My present coach also just recently fixed my camel spin with one suggestion. Now it's much more reliable and faster - but I suppose any spin is faster when you're not falling out of it.

starskate6.0 · #78 12-09-2004, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by skaternum

Starskate, I recommend that you go look at the applications for the competitions you're thinking about doing. Every competition is different so you have to pay close attention to the events and eligibility requirements for each. There aren't any moves competitions at Adult Nationals.

Both AN and the Adult ISU competition (not "Worlds" and not a "championship", as some want to term it) have announcements that are available on the USFSA website. USFSA adult page

And here's some more free advice for somebody just getting into adult competitions. In addition to getting friendly with the materials on the USFSA website, become best friends with the rulebook! Learn it, live it, love it! It's THE authoritative source for info on rules. You're better off going straight to the source than relying on a bunch of strangers (albeit helpful and usually knowledgable) on the web. You wouldn't believe some of the misinformation I've seen disseminated in these kinds of forums by people who are ignorant of or confused by the rules. Present company excepted, of course. No one HERE would do such a thing ...

Thanks for the tip

, I realy did not mean to use such broard terms when it comes to all the competitions I was just thinking in general terms

But Ill find a rule book and look into some of this stuff, and If I ever was misinformed by some advise I got here I would never get bent out of shap about it, Id probebley just laugh about it later and go and have a beer with that person after the competition

Im in it for the fun and I truly appreciate all the advice I get here and from my coaches and friends on the forum.

" the greatest risk in life is not taking one.

starskate6.0 · #79 12-09-2004, 12:56 AM

[QUOTE=doubletoe]

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Originally Posted by starskate6.0
I still do shows in local clubs and other places on request on my Stilts , but please don't ever ask me to skate Freestyle .
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)[/QUOTE

What a great story!! But aren't you going to skate freestyle now? Isn't that why you need to take your Gold test? I was once told that I was "lucky to be a natural jumper rather than a natural spinner because with time, spinning can be learned, but if you aren't a jumper, you will never be a jumper." Now slowly but surely, the spins are coming along. . . so maybe it's true!

Keep us apprised of your progress because I just love this story, LOL!

Hi Doubletoe
Well if spinning can be learned its sure been a long lesson

for me.
Im glad you liked my story , perhapes Ill fill you in on the details over a beer one day.

I am going to skate freestyle , the goal is to stay on my feet long enough to finish 2:40

Ill be working on the spins.

" The greatest risk in life is not taking one. "

starskate6.0 · #80 12-09-2004, 01:00 AM

" Opps . I think I screwed that up..

sorry doubletoe. anyway its late and Im in Erie PA tonight, Ill talk to you guy's tomorrow. Ill keep working on the spins .
"The greatest risk in life is not taking one"

skaternum · #81 12-09-2004, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by starskate6.0

I realy did not mean to use such broard terms when it comes to all the competitions I was just thinking in general terms

I figured that, but I've been surprised recently to discover that some of us adult skaters actually think the ISU competition is some kind of adult world championship, when it's really just another open competition. (I.e., there aren't any qualifying events that lead up to it.) I'm just trying to make sure this little urban myth doesn't take hold. Maybe one day we will have our own world championship, but for now, if you've got the money and the vacation time, you can be an international competitor!

starskate6.0 · #82 12-09-2004, 10:13 AM

Hi Starnum

We all like to dream don't we

May-be there will be a true world event one day, but this will be great fun in the mean time. I got the time off but only that one week so the competition in France will have to wait another year.
But the event in Obertsdorf will be a hoot. Im looking forward to going.

better brush up on my german.

starskate6.0 · #83 12-09-2004, 10:29 AM

Hi Flo

Don't be too concerned about the spin thing, it requires a lot of skill to be a good spinner and if you are graced with that magic ability to bend in all directions you will be a good spinner. Most of us ( me included

),
have to be content with pushing the limits to MAKE the body bend

A jump goes up and down, with the body basicly vertical but spins are another story. It takes a lot of skill to be a good spinner and if you have the determination to be a great spinner you will be, Im sure of it.

I don't think Iv ever seen you skate, but I would realy like too. Come say Hello at a competition some time and Ill be your number 1 spin fan.

flo · #84 12-09-2004, 10:37 AM

Starskate:
You actually know me - Phyllis from Ice Club of Baltimore. Gets confusing with all the names, and from a favorite T-shirt - on the internet no one knows you're a frog.

starskate6.0 · #85 12-09-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by flo

Starskate:
You actually know me - Phyllis from Ice Club of Baltimore. Gets confusing with all the names, and from a favorite T-shirt - on the internet no one knows you're a frog.

"Opps" Yes I do remember, Im sorry, I often have a memory like a steel trap with the door open

, I forgot about your show, Ill have to look at my schedual again, Did you want me to skate and if so , do you want me to do my stilt number

How many hours is it from PHL.

Ill have to get back to you later tonight Im in Erie PA but Ill be able to get back to you later tonight when I land in Allen town about 10pm.

" The greatest risk in life is not taking one ".

NoVa Sk8r · #86 12-09-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by flo

On spinning: My coach nearly fell over when I finally centered a scratch spin! I had a layback, sit and reasonable camel, but the scratch....

Flo,
I find your spin troubles hard to believe. Your layback was absolutely gorgeous in Philly!
But, then again, isn't it Dick Button who says (time and time and time and time again!) that the forward scratch is the hardest to do (I beg to differ)?

Anyway, can't wait to see your spins again at the New Year's.
(BTW, Loops and I are now working on side-by-side camel/broken leg sit spins!)

flo · #87 12-09-2004, 11:01 AM

Nova - go for it! That would be great as a pair.
Thanks!

I don't think I've ever put a scratch spin in my program! I'm having more success with the camel. I'm very open hipped, and usually flopped over out of the camel. It was great for the pair flop over camel (a variation of the tango)! My coach told me to touch my right hand to my left knee, and I actually have a consistient spin!!
Hope to see you in Washington!

NoVa Sk8r · #88 12-09-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flo

Nova - go for it! That would be great as a pair.
Thanks!

I don't think I've ever put a scratch spin in my program! I'm having more success with the camel. I'm very open hipped, and usually flopped over out of the camel. It was great for the pair flop over camel (a variation of the tango)! My coach told me to touch my right hand to my left knee, and I actually have a consistient spin!!
Hope to see you in Washington!

Our pair spins are very hit or miss lately. The sbs ones, though, have come a long way. I'm still hoping one day that we can do sbs flying camels. The current problem is that we have different entries: Loops does the RFI 3-turn, and I do the back crossover entry. We're working on it.
As good as my spins may be, they usually fizzle out when done in a side-by-side fashion. Grrrr ...

I'll be in Washington, in one shape or form ... but I've yet to even download the application, and I don't know what events I would do. Here's to procrastination!

Terri C · #89 12-09-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

I'll be in Washington, in one shape or form ... but I've yet to even download the application, and I don't know what events I would do. Here's to procrastination!

Are you nuts??? Let's see- pairs would be one event, right?? Oh and if I were you, since you are a legitimate Silver skater now, you better do singles or else!!!

Gee, why did I ask the first question- I already know the answer to that one!

Terri C · #90 12-09-2004, 11:27 AM

Ok -time for me to chime in on my ice session today!

Coach and I finished my Interpretive program for New Years (that is if I get to go- CRC is Plan B if I can't). It will piss me off if I put this program together for nothing!

My forward spins were awful today, but jumps (even the loop cooperated) and the backscratch were sweet!
I do have to get back in the gym- my stamina is awful as well!

NoVa Sk8r · #91 12-09-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Terri C

Are you nuts??? Let's see- pairs would be one event, right?? Oh and if I were you, since you are a legitimate Silver skater now, you better do singles or else!!!

Gee, why did I ask the first question- I already know the answer to that one!

Well, definitely pairs (don't want an irate Loops on my tail!); everything else is open: singles, compulsories, spins, interp.

And for the record, I'm not nuts. Maybe just a little unstable and erratic at times.

flo · #92 12-09-2004, 11:39 AM

Hi Nova,
Side by side spins are more difficult. Aside from the spin itself, you have to get them in synch with entry and speed, match positions, be close, but not too close that you run into eachother, and watch eachother!
Have you tried a pair flying camel? Those are interesting, and you don't see many.
I enter the solo flying camel from a R counter or a forward camel. How about you both doing sbs camel-jump-back camels? Then you will have the same entry.

Terri C · #93 12-09-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r Maybe just a [I

little [/I] unstable and erratic at times.

Just a little???

NoVa Sk8r · #94 12-09-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by flo

Hi Nova,
Side by side spins are more difficult.
Have you tried a pair flying camel? Those are interesting, and you don't see many.
I enter the solo flying camel from a R counter or a forward camel. How about you both doing sbs camel-jump-back camels? Then you will have the same entry.

Yes, difficult indeed. But for some reason, our sbs spins end up being in sync more often that not. I can't explain it--nor do I want to attempt to (Note to planets: Keep lining up as you have in the past!).
A pair flying camel. I've never heard of aht, just the sbs flying camel. I think images of Berezhnaya keep dancing in our heads when we even consider doing sbs flying camels. Loops usually points across the rink, and says, "Start your spin over there."

The camel-jump-camel is a good idea; I used to do that in my singles (as well as camel-jump-sit). Might be interesting to resurrect it for pairs. Loops and I are definitely not afraid to try new things!

flo · #95 12-09-2004, 12:02 PM

When I was starting pairs, we had to plan our spins so we would travel in the same direction, and not into eachother! One coach burried our spins in a corner close to the judges so they had to strain to see us!

doubletoe · #96 12-09-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by starskate6.0

" Opps . I think I screwed that up..

sorry doubletoe. anyway its late and Im in Erie PA tonight, Ill talk to you guy's tomorrow. Ill keep working on the spins .
"The greatest risk in life is not taking one"

Heck, if a spin isn't working, just try holding the entrance edge longer. It fixes it at least half the time, LOL! (BTW, the sitspin is the one spin that does not work for.)

Mrs Redboots · #97 12-09-2004, 03:08 PM

We don't do pairs pairs, if you see what I mean, but we do do artistic pairs, and although we haven't a proper side-by-side spin, we have this bit in our routine where I pretend to slap his face with such force that we each twirl in opposite directions, then I slap his face the other side, and we twirl the other way for 2 revolutions. At the moment, it's two-footed, but our coach would *like* us to be able to do it on one foot.... I don't think so....

starskate6.0 · #98 12-09-2004, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by doubletoe

Heck, if a spin isn't working, just try holding the entrance edge longer. It fixes it at least half the time, LOL! (BTW, the sitspin is the one spin that does not work for.)

Yep.. you are right, and that does help, i hope Ill learn a decent camel by nationals this year.

starskate6.0 · #99 12-09-2004, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flo

When I was starting pairs, we had to plan our spins so we would travel in the same direction, and not into eachother! One coach burried our spins in a corner close to the judges so they had to strain to see us!

Hey Flow

Im in Allentown again tonight and be back in PHL tomorrow, I will have to check my schedual but im pretty sure i can do your show on saturday the 18th. Ill bring my stilts and do that for you and if you need another number Ill do my interp for you.

Let me know what you need , I did a show last week in Liegh high valley and they loved the stilt number. Send me some directions and if there is a rehursal, and any details , ( starskate@mac.com )

skaternum · #**100** 12-10-2004, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

I think images of Berezhnaya keep dancing in our heads when we even consider doing sbs flying camels. Loops usually points across the rink, and says, "Start your spin over there."

Those of you who remember seeing David & me doing our sbs camels at Peach Classic in 2003 must surely remember it in this way! I could actually hear everyone in the stands suck in air. (Me included.) We'd gotten a little off center in our straight line footwork down the rink, so when we set up to do our camels, he took a big ol' windup and a big ol' step into the spin (spatial relations are NOT his strong suit) and pretty much pushed me up against the board. I had no where to go to get away from his blade coming at me, so I aborted that spin as fast as possible. Everyone let their breaths out at about the same time, too. I'd rather be upright to see it coming and move than get sliced out of nowhere. And that's why we do sbs sit spins now.

(Which is frustrating, because we usually had good unison on our camels. But it's not worth it if you're bleeding!!)

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