Thanks! That is exactly what I do when I am within reach of the wall or being spotted by my instructor, but the minute I step away from the wall, I panic and have no jump. It's actually quite nice at the wall with a lovely checked landing...

NCSkater02 -- I am glad that I wasn't in your Freestyle 1 class -- sounds awful. At least that wasn't my regular class.

Next step is to make yourself start out at the wall and slowly move bit by bit away from the wall as you do the waltz jump. Soon you won't need the wall as your security blanket.

I'm thinking I'll have to do this will my loop and flip to get the freeleg right after take off and to keep the freeleg in the proper place for my landing so that I won't two foot the landings.

It's all in our heads not trusting that we actually can do what we can do.

Brigitte

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I think the most terrifying thing I ever did on ice was my very first attempt at the waltz jump. I don't think anything else has come close. In fact I don't have any memory of a first attempt at any other jump being particularly scary - I can remember the first salchow thinking "what you want me to get from here (ie LBI) right round to there (ie RBO) ???!!! , but nothing like as frightening as the first waltz jump.

If it's any consolation the fear soon goes.

John

PURRING: I did Paso w/ coach today to the music. Was a very shallow pattern, but it was to the music, even the swing mohawk was on time (it's easier to do it on time to the music than when just counting as one goes).

MEWING: The intro 3 wasn't really there. But coach realized that I was wide-stepping into it which was throwing my balance off. And I did do 1 intro-3...

Do you do backspins on your right foot? If so, maybe there's something not quite right with your left blade that is stopping you being able to do the LFO3. Maybe you should have someone check it for you, just to be sure. What part of the turn are you having most trouble with? I mean, is it the actual turn, or controlling the BI edge after, or something?

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Yep, I agree. Check that there is not a screw loose in the heel of your blade first thing. This has happened to me twice over three years. I think its because I generally to more L turns, and more L foot spinning.

My FO threes are my flakiest move. Initially, the second RFO three in the waltz-8 was the only thing preventing me from testing pre-pre moves. The FO threes suddenly clicked, and I was scheduled to test at the end of the week, when I broke my wrist. Since then, I have had consistent FO threes for exactly two weeks - fortunately on schedule to pass the test. I had a real psychological block on the RFO three, which suddenly switched to the LFO three. Then, all of a sudden, I totally wimped out on both of them, able to do them just fine with the lightest of spots, but not at all otherwise. After many months, and some insight from hubby, both FO threes are back, but not as good as right before I broke the wrist.

Here are some of the things that helped me get them back:

Try them skating face to face with someone, holding hands with arms outstretched. You both skate forwards, but only you do the turn.

I realized that the spot was putting my shoulders in the right position, so I visualized the spotter's hand and reached for it.

Hubby suggested I try to do the turn on a particular spot, so I started doing them from the boards, making my turn on the line and coming back to the boards...then the other foot same way. That was the single most helpful trick.

When I put the imaginary spotting hand into that path, I started to get the turns back again.

I'm now back to working on the check, but still can't just do a FO three wherever I choose.

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Part of my problem with my intro 3's appears to be that I frequently wide step the step for the LFO3... which is generally in dance intros the 3rd step of a progressive sequence. We just finally noticed this yesterday.

Hmmmm.... I wonder if I'm wide-stepping the 3rd step of each crossover/progressive sequence in the AB MIF alternating forward power crossovers? Something to think about.

No, I spin clockwise. I'm just naturally weaker on my left side. But I better check the screws on my skates again!

Purring:
Don't worry, folks!!! I'm starting to get them back again! Primary coach fixed me and all is better for now. (I still have to build up speed, but the LFO3's are back for the most again!!! WHEW!!!!)

Also, a MAJOR PURRRRRRR... got my BRAND NEW PURPLE custom Harlicks boots!!! And the family business is wonderful!!! People are very nice and humble and got the job done! My boots fit very VERY nicely... Not totally slippers but very comfy!!! (They better be for the cost of the boot!)

Now to find the right person to put in the new blade to it...

Mewing:
Of course, for the price of that LFO3's I pretty much lost Monday's backspins again! (Actually it was much better than last week still, so he's happy!)

Litter Box:
My weekend rink was closed and the only rink I'm willing to park my car that I could get to within a reasonable amount of time is my home rink, so I'm stuck skating with a bunch of (whoever said this, I love the term!!!) Wayne Gretsky wannabes and Kwan wannabes!!!

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
Silver Moves is the next "Mission Impossible"
(Dare I try for Championship Adult Gold someday???)

Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

I have said this, but I won't take credit because you may have heard it from someone else!

Purring: My group (and secondary) wants to know where I suddenly got all the height on my half flip. I told her I'd been working my *** off for it. She too was pleased with my waltz. Ran through my compulsary and free skates--Dogwood is in 3 weeks, and she will be putting me on the ice, as my main coach will be on vacation in Greece.

Mewing: I believe it is called a toe loop because you use your toe to pick with. However, IF you miss the toe pick, you fall--not gracefully, not painlessly. Boy, does my elbow hurt. And I did it twice, half an hour apart. I think I've only fallen once before, and didn't land on my elbow. Other than that, that scratch spin. I am managing to get my free leg in front, but I cannot convince my left arm to move, or stay up. It wants to drop, and take my shoulder with it.

Another tip for weak side three-turns. Think about (a) edge and (b) rotation.

(a) practise using your rocker and edge to rock right from the back of the blade up almost to the toe rake, before doing the turn, then rocking back again. Use both edge lean and rocker, to get a really curvy tracing. Practise this in the barrier.

(g) use your rotation arm to help bring the body round, as the chances are high that you are leaving it behind and this is checking you. The rotation arm is the one opposite to the leg you are turning on. So for a RFO three turn, remember to bring the L arm and shoulder forward and round (with lower arm and hand just above waist level), in the direction you are rotating (CW). Keep the shoulders level vertically while doing this.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised! It'll be something to focus on next time you have a Moves practice/lesson. Isn't it odd how a tiny thing can make such a difference.....

No skating for me today as this earache/virus thing is still making me feel like death warmed up. Someone else will have to start this week's thread - and the next couple of weeks', too, for that matter..... I'll be at the Mountain Cup for the rest of this month, come Saturday!

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Purring

LFO3's is slowly coming back... though it's not quite stable yet.... I have good moments and bad moments...

Mewing

More WAYNE GRETSKY WANNABES!!! AUUUUUGH!!!! Pee Wee Hockey league were all over the public session chasing each other and throwing their glove out right into the middle of the ice (where all the figure skaters are hovering at...) I was tempted to take a 2 minute penalty!!! (Checking...) And ice monitor can't do S*** about it either.... GRRRRR!!!!

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
Silver Moves is the next "Mission Impossible"
(Dare I try for Championship Adult Gold someday???)

Thank you for the support, you guys!!!