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Old 09-07-2006, 04:29 PM
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Old 09-07-2006, 04:40 PM
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Machikoyamada, I'm sorry you didn't feel welcomed warmly at this competition, but remember, most things you experience are not actually "done to" you on purpose by other people.
At my very first competition, I knew nobody knew me, so I went up and initiated conversations with the other competitors, usually complimenting them on their skating. At the end of the competition, I left with lots of friends! Did you go up to people who looked as uncomfortable as you were and try to make them more comfortable, since you understand what that feels like? I hope so.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:53 PM
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One possible reason for low attendance is that when you first arrive at the competition, you feel like there are daggers coming at you from all sides. The welcoming committee certainly isn't very welcoming, and when it's your turn to skate you feel like people are happy if you fall down on the ice... I, myself, have found this to be true and so have a couple of my fellow competitors...

I have found that if you are not apart of a certain group, then you are really OUT. This might be the same clique that had a problem with Chris Williams dancing during the after party at nationals in Dallas, and it may not be... all I can say it all makes me SICK to my stomach. I have never in my life experienced anything like that and I wouldn't want to experience it again.

On top of that, you are then left out of the official video tape as if you didn't exist at all - after paying all that money for the tape..
Ummm....

My email is rlichtefeld@yahoo.com
Please contact me about the Peach if you'd like. Or, you can PM me.

I've danced with Chris at the Peach party (a couple of years ago when he competed here), and just about everyone else every year, I don't know what the problem is. At this year's party, I think at one time everyone was on the dance floor. I wasn't at the AN party this year, because after flo and I skated, I had to fly back to see my wife off to India.

As far as I know there aren't any cliques at Peach. The stands are always full, and there are always goodies thrown on the ice.

The Registration desk this year was manned by a great lady, who is an adult skater, who is only off the ice right now because of her chemo. So, I don't think Amy would have hurt anyone's feelings.

Hopefully, you will contact me and let me know what happened. Because, at this point I'm a little confused.

Rob
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:00 PM
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One possible reason for low attendance is that when you first arrive at the competition, you feel like there are daggers coming at you from all sides. The welcoming committee certainly isn't very welcoming, and when it's your turn to skate you feel like people are happy if you fall down on the ice... I, myself, have found this to be true and so have a couple of my fellow competitors...

I have found that if you are not apart of a certain group, then you are really OUT.
Wow, that's a very different experience than anything I've seen or experienced at Peach. My first time there was in 2004, and I was welcomed with open arms. In one event I skated very well, in the other not very well, and I probably had the same number of animals/nips/etc. on the ice for both programs. And I've NEVER seen anyone in the stands happy to see a skater fall.

Of course, people who stay to themselves and don't make an effort to reach out and meet others won't have as much support as those who try to be part of a group (and that group includes all friendly adult skaters who want to participate in it).
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:21 PM
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One possible reason for low attendance is that when you first arrive at the competition, you feel like there are daggers coming at you from all sides. The welcoming committee certainly isn't very welcoming, and when it's your turn to skate you feel like people are happy if you fall down on the ice... I, myself, have found this to be true and so have a couple of my fellow competitors...

I have found that if you are not apart of a certain group, then you are really OUT. This might be the same clique that had a problem with Chris Williams dancing during the after party at nationals in Dallas, and it may not be... all I can say it all makes me SICK to my stomach. I have never in my life experienced anything like that and I wouldn't want to experience it again.

On top of that, you are then left out of the official video tape as if you didn't exist at all - after paying all that money for the tape..
Well if that is how you really feel -then please stay home the rest of the season.
Every adult competition I've been to whether it's Peach (which was last year) Halloween Classic (two years ago), and almost every year , New Years Invitational, I've always enjoyed myself, never mind the fact that I'm the only competitive adult skater at my rink.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:34 PM
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Amen, Skaternum. I can't believe anyone was treated that badly at Peach. Rob works very hard and cares about our experience with Peach. As for "not being part of a certain group", (if that's what one wants to call enjoying the competition), EVERYONE is welcome to join in and have fun! .....although they might be the recipient of an affectionate practical joke! He, he!
You were missed this year, Skaternum.Thanks so much, Rob for a great weekend!
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:46 AM
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I have issued a temporary ban on machikoyamada's member name until 9/15/2006, just to give them time to learn more about appropriate posts for this Board. If, after that time, they continue to post in a mean-spirited behavior, they will be permanently banned. The IP address has been logged, something that users sharing IP addresses should be aware of as well.


As a note, I received two "official" messages regarding the inappropriateness of this post. Judging by the followups, I assume many more members were offended by machikoyamada's missive. You can always report posts officially to moderators by clicking on the "Report Bad Post" triangle in the upper right-hand corner. If you believe someone's a troll, it's best not to "feed" him/her by responding to the messages. That's what they want, after all.


That's all folks! Go back to your knitting ... (Sorry, Harry Potter reference.)

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One possible reason for low attendance is that when you first arrive at the competition, you feel like there are daggers coming at you from all sides. The welcoming committee certainly isn't very welcoming, and when it's your turn to skate you feel like people are happy if you fall down on the ice... I, myself, have found this to be true and so have a couple of my fellow competitors...

I have found that if you are not apart of a certain group, then you are really OUT. This might be the same clique that had a problem with Chris Williams dancing during the after party at nationals in Dallas, and it may not be... all I can say it all makes me SICK to my stomach. I have never in my life experienced anything like that and I wouldn't want to experience it again.

On top of that, you are then left out of the official video tape as if you didn't exist at all - after paying all that money for the tape..
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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Positive Peach experience for me!

This year was my second year at Peach, and I felt VERY welcome both this year and last year.

I knew only two skaters at Peach when I skated my freeskate this year, and I had people cheering for me that didn't even know me! On top of it, I got a little treat thrown to me after I skated, and Becca didn't even know me! And I met a handful of people on top of it! Last year, I only knew some of the Florida skaters, and I got several toys thrown to me by people NOT from Florida.

My point is...as another skater who is/was new to Peach Classic, I felt VERY welcome and had plenty of support! (Rob & Co. does an AMAZING job running the show.)

As far as the video goes...I have worked for the videographer in the past. I did some of the footage from the Competitors Party last year. It is not the intention of the videographer to "exclude" anyone. There is only a certian amount of footage that is worth putting on the tape (thanks in part to my wiggly hands...sorry!), and the gentleman that puts the montage together at the end limits the montage to one song. He already spends HOURS putting that footage together. Most video companies don't put ANYTHING together! So, what are you complaining about!
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Old 09-08-2006, 12:26 PM
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falling?

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when it's your turn to skate you feel like people are happy if you fall down on the ice...
I don't know of too many people that HOPE that another adult skater will fall! We ALL work to hard and pay too much of our own hard-earned cash to wish that. On top of that, I really LIKE to watch skating! Personally, I enjoy seeing really good programs!
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