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Old 11-08-2006, 06:01 PM
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It's true, heat molding won't really make them any bigger, just a little softer. And what they don't tell you is that when the weather gets cold, they get a little harder again. . .
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:10 AM
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Here I am again...NEED SOME GUIDANCE...MY FRIENDS!!

Ive never had a heat moldable boot...shall I take the laces out before I insert the boot in the convection oven???..Yup I did find a place where they cook ceramic objects that has the special oven..


Please, let me know if I must take the laces out before inserting the boots in the oven...I guess so..they might shrink or burn out because they are made out of sinthetic materials, riight?

The boots have been in a strecthing machine until monday..then , they will be sent to the place with that has the special oven.. please,let me know about the laces...Ok?

But now I also have another doubt? How am I going to put the lace back to the boots while they are hot and then wear the boots before it gets too cold to moldon my feet???

Pls... share your experiences with me...so I can multiply them as well.

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Old 11-09-2006, 08:27 AM
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I did my skates (Jackson Competitors) in a regular gas oven set to 200 degrees. Left them in for 10 minutes and then laced them up. I left the laces in the whole time.

This was on the recommendation of my coach and skate supplier.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:58 AM
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Can you control the temperature of your open-flame oven? If you can't, and you can't keep the boots well away from the flame, I think you're going to have a nicely cooked, even burned, pair of boots.

I seriously wouldn't do this, but hey, your money.


edit...I just saw that you're going to a place with a different kind of oven. That's better.
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:42 AM
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Leave the laces in (when ou heat in a convection oven). Do one skate at a time...The skate should feel soft and sequeezable in your hands. Lace them up tight, and don't move/walk around. Wait until the boot is cool and hard again before doing to the second boot. Hope this helps!
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:34 PM
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Also, your boot will not be too hot coming out of the oven, but the steel blade will be very hot! So bring something like an old cotton sheet, fold it over a few times and put it on the floor so you can put it under your blades when you put your skates on. Don't put soakers on your blades because they are not 100% cotton and the synthetic part could end up melting onto your blades.
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:27 PM
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Hello My Friends

Firstly thanks for sharing your advises .I really appreciate it.

At the present time, the boots have been under strecthing at a shoe repair shop . Ill pick it up on Monday only.

I was able to find an attellier where they cook ceramic objects,the oven is supposed to be convection one....

Thou I did find at the USFSA website a pdf file that states SPTeriProDeluxe is heat moldable... the shoeman and the other believe that the laces will shrink or burn out because they are made of nylon...and the outsole is sorta wood...and it might burn out...

Is there any chance that you could give me a clue to verify whether or not the model I have is an old one without HEAT MOLDABLE feature?...it might be possible this is an old model.... I mean, could you describe outsole characteristics and laces ?

Here are my boots BC*(Before Cooking)..pls click on the images to enlarge them...by the images Im hoping someone can confirm the model is ok to go to the oven.... Although I love eating...pls..I dont wanna have boot cookies for lunch!!





Wide Lacing....you can tell it was not wide enough :-(







Thank you all for the supporting.

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Old 11-09-2006, 07:49 PM
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I know nothing about the model, but there is no wood. The sole and heel that look like wood are stacked leather. This is true of all figure skates except the really cheap ones that use plastic. I've never heard of laces burning during heat molding, and most boots come with nylon laces.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:48 PM
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DBNY

Thanks for your posting.

Ive always thought it was made out of nylon...youd not believe how my hands are,... got blisters on my fingers because of lacing and unlacing the boots... yup due to the nylon laces which are easily inflammable!!!This was the reason I was worried about it..but I guess the temperature is not high enough to trigger a fire.

Well.. now Im more confident then..the worst it might happen is to cook the leather...

Itll be the 1st time I dont get a waterproof outsole..couldnt find a place to do it here..neither some special type of product...

I was also told to turn up the regular oven I got and check the temperature..as it reaches 180+F..turn it off , place the boots inside the oven and voila..no more directional heat from below.. just a sorta more uniform heat inside the oven,a new alternative...

Since everything arrives here usually mounted, ready to skate...we get really in problem when something like this happens..good point, Ill share with others.

Thanks again.

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Old 11-09-2006, 11:54 PM
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Why don't you just switch the nylon laces to cotton laces for the heat molding?
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:13 AM
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Why don't you just switch the nylon laces to cotton laces for the heat molding?
Why not switch to cotton laces permanently, and throw those nasty nylon laces into the garbage pail?

I strongly prefer cotton laces. They hold better and don't hurt your fingers.
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Old 11-10-2006, 02:42 AM
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Graf boots heat mold at a higher temperature and for longer than recommended for Jacksons, ( I don't know about SP Teris) and their nylon laces don't melt.

I used a heat gun on mine as I didn't have a convection oven. That way you can work around the one area if that's all that's needed, but you mustn't get too close and you must keep the gun moving around so you don't burn the leather.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:21 PM
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THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH INDEED.

Ive got a notice from the seller whos told me that bootsmust be heat between150/175F for 5 minutes...cooldown and then try it again... I might just try to get a kitchen thermometer..because as ongas you reach the temperature and the flame in bottom is cut down ...the heat inside the oven shallbe constant...sio I will use 180F and then turn it off and then...voilá...

I was disappointed that the boots has not been ready from thr strecthing process it did a great job on the ball area as well as hellbut still theres moreto be done in the hells...its not fitting wellyet..one moreday togo..then..the marathin to moun teh boots..

Do you use any epoxy glue such as araldite to fix the scres and sealed them afterwards??

ANother question..regarding my old boots what shall I stick into the screw holes lefton the outsole to cover then?Is it ok epoxy araldite?


What do you guys use for waterproof seal? folks here have NO idea...

So many questions..goodtimes when I had itall doen by someone else... I was so happy then!
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:14 PM
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Why not switch to cotton laces permanently, and throw those nasty nylon laces into the garbage pail?

I strongly prefer cotton laces. They hold better and don't hurt your fingers.
But they can slip off the hooks if your boots are still in the breaking-in process. That happened several times with my cotton laces when my boots were new, so I had to switch to 50% cotton 50% nylon, which I think offers the best of both worlds.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:56 PM
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But they can slip off the hooks if your boots are still in the breaking-in process. That happened several times with my cotton laces when my boots were new, so I had to switch to 50% cotton 50% nylon, which I think offers the best of both worlds.
Mine slipped off my hooks today and down I went. Bruised knees.

But I've had my skates over a year! I wonder what I did wrong.
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Old 11-25-2006, 08:13 AM
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Hello My Dear Sk8rs Pals!!

Wow...If I were to resume Id say: "Wish I could turn the clock back"

The boots fit perfectly .. if anyone has problems with boots Ive learnt many tricks to get our bootsmore comfortable.. Naturally SP Teri DELuxe are indeed cement boots..and now I know what it means...you sorta feel as if you were wearing a skiing boot..the heel is lower than WIFa...the blades were not aligned properly.Ive been 200% OUTOF SHAPE...the result was a joke..made my friends lol met people that Ive not seen for more than 20 years...and had decided..TIME TO GET UNDER A SERIOUS DIET...the following day I was feeling as if a truck has run over me... andI found that to be oveweight we sorta have extra "gel pads " when we fall...but Id rather to get rid of them as soon aspossible..am to get the blades realigned and practice...well keep you posted...no spin ..not even a waltz jump I was able to do... but Ill revert this... and soon ... and when I go to the US..Ill try to meet up some of you... alright... Oh Igot everything in video.but to share the images..only if I got paid for...its as fuinny as candid camera...

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HINTS ON THE BOOTS , FRIENDSHIP AND SUPPORTING...I feel as if I had to carry 2 myselves.. just wonder..am 40$ over my normal weight...the blades are real good ones...got ISO 200000 for resistence...lol..

See yall folks... lets go sk8ng... Look out...Il be back to double jumps ....

Zerio
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