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Old 11-13-2006, 11:30 AM
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Recovering time off ice b/c of said accident must be at least 4 weeks.
Does that mean I may not qualify?

(not sure if it will happen, but I surely hope to be on the ice in less than 4 weeks)
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Old 11-13-2006, 11:56 AM
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Boy you guys, so much good so much bad!
I finally had a good skate this AM and My wife rearranged our pairs program to her liking this AM and she made it flow better - we even ended with the music what's going to happen when we get moving faster?

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last week, whew, ever have one of those weeks when you just feel awfull very day?
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:39 PM
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Does that mean I may not qualify?

(not sure if it will happen, but I surely hope to be on the ice in less than 4 weeks)
Do double-check with your doctors that you're really better before you get back on - concussion is not a thing to be trifled with! Some folk have been off work, never mind skating, for several months after a concussion. Actually, one of my friends was back skating long before she went back to work, come to think of it.... but then, her concussion didn't happen on-ice.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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Do double-check with your doctors that you're really better before you get back on - concussion is not a thing to be trifled with! Some folk have been off work, never mind skating, for several months after a concussion. Actually, one of my friends was back skating long before she went back to work, come to think of it.... but then, her concussion didn't happen on-ice.
Yup! Better check with your doctor! Since you mentioned that you were out, you might find that you'll actually NEED the 4 weeks!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion#Grades

I could make a special case for the Purple Heart in cases of concussions...
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:16 PM
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Yup! Better check with your doctor! Since you mentioned that you were out, you might find that you'll actually NEED the 4 weeks!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion#Grades

I could make a special case for the Purple Heart in cases of concussions...
I was not out, and besides being dizzy/feeling like spinning for the first minute or so, was aware of the situation, talked, maintained logic, no memory problems, etc. It was a mild concussion, in my case I do still have a bit of a headache today and still get dizzy, but it is slowly improving.

I'll not take any chances before I feel completely ready to be back, don't worry
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Old 11-13-2006, 02:40 PM
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This is really scary stuff! When I whacked my head (chin) on the ice a while back, I was out for a few seconds only. Didn't get dizzy or nauseated until the next day....then I did go to the ER. The doctor never told me I had a concussion, but he sent me home with the paperwork for "mild head trauma" & "concussion" as well as labrynthitis. Sort of the warning signs to look for if it gets worse (yeah, we're talking about a woman that already has forgetfulness and balance issues...)

I did stay off the ice (and avoid driving) for two days.
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:30 PM
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(This happened yesterday, but I like the title of this week's thread better):

Hope to forget: falling on my head on FO mohawk in 8-step mohawk sequence. In about a year or so that I've been doing 8step mohawks, I never had any trouble with them (besides being scared in the beginning), never fell down on those, couldn't really "get" why they are so tough for many adults.

Pool of blood around my head, ambulance, ER, etc. Have a tender vertebrae, but not broken. Came out of whole thing with a sore right wrist, strong whiplash, light concussion (I guess) and 15 staples on my head (scull is ok). Still laughing, as what can I do - cry? LOL.

Hope to be back on the ice in a couple of weeks.
Renata! OMG! I'm glad you are ok. Yep, well, I'm one of those adults for whom the outside mohawks are tough. And after reading your post, I'll be watching myself! How scary, especially when you do this move so well. I've seen your video! Please, please take care and make sure you stay off the ice as long as Dr. says!

Also, not that this is at all funny, you have me beat on "back of the head stitches"! In 1983, I went with my now husband to a regional rink. I, of course, had never skated. I was on the ice for 15 minutes when I fell and cracked my head. Yep, the pool of blood. Only 8 staples.....I didn't skate again until 1998 (not necessarily because of that fall, but there was no closer rink for my hubby until the one I skate at now opened).

Hope you are feeling better and sustain no lasting effects.
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:54 PM
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I hope you feel better soon, Renata! Is it me, or do we seem to have an abudance of severe injuries lately? In the words of my rink manager... Let's try to stay upright, people!
Anyway...

Remember: Landed a great number of axels today! WOOHOO! Started working on a pancake back spin, which is really fun. I am also getting through my program without nearing exhaustion.

Forget: I don't know where my layback has gone, but I haven't seen it in about 3 weeks, and none of my usually tricks seem to work. It's wild and really uncentered, making adding the catch foot really hard. Also, after having seen the video from HC, I realized that I am really slow overall, and really need to work on getting speed in my program.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:45 PM
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Renata,
I had a concussion from skating back in 1998. Since I have epilepsy, I had to go to the ER to get checked. I also cracked a wrist on that same fall, and was off the ice for 6 weeks, off work for one. Lucky for me, I didn't have a seizure as a result of the fall.

Okay on with my lesson notes from today.
Wish to remember:
Power threes were all on pattern and was on a inside edge when I needed to be with the forward power perim!! Five step mohawk was nice and quiet.

Hope to forget:
Kids who ignore skaters in lesson having "right of way." Looks like I'm going to have to be the Queen B#$^H on ice between now and test day.
Back perimeter crossovers- I have a bet with Secondary Coach that this will be the reskate move, if there is one!
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:11 PM
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I'm guessing you have great turn out, which makes the FO Mohawk easy for anyone, even adults. That could be why you didn't "get" the difficulty.

I've seen too many skaters fall just that way, DD included, although I've never seen anyone injured as seriously as you were. If it's any consolation to you, one can do the same fall for the same reasons on a FI Mohawk too (speaking from experience ). It sounds just awful, and I would have been crying, not laughing! OUCH! Hope you feel better soon and don't have too much fear when you come back.
Even though RFO mohawks should have been easy for me (since I do a RFO outside spread eagle), two of my four worst skating falls were on those! Both times I neglected to point the toes of my left foot as I brought the foot down backwards. I planted the heel of my blade in the ice and it stayed there while the rest of me kept going! The first thing to hit the ice was my right hip. I think I got those two awful bruises in the exact same place just 2 weeks apart!
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:28 PM
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Hope to forget:
Kids who ignore skaters in lesson having "right of way." Looks like I'm going to have to be the Queen B#$^H on ice between now and test day.
I'm loaning you my "MOVE!!!" until you test. I've been good lately and have been saying "excuuuuuse me!!!" instead (and getting more looks too).
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:46 PM
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Even though RFO mohawks should have been easy for me (since I do a RFO outside spread eagle), two of my four worst skating falls were on those! Both times I neglected to point the toes of my left foot as I brought the foot down backwards. I planted the heel of my blade in the ice and it stayed there while the rest of me kept going! The first thing to hit the ice was my right hip. I think I got those two awful bruises in the exact same place just 2 weeks apart!
So that should help us all remember to point our toes!
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:58 PM
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http://www.usfigureskating.org/Story.asp?id=36147 - this makes me take my injury quite a bit more seriously. I probably had a grade 1 or 2 concussion, but falling on my head anytime soon just doesn't sound very good.

I'm getting better literally with every hour, though. Much less spells of dizziness today. TV/computer/reading don't exhaust me nearly as much as they did yesterday. I'm still not going anywhere at the very least tomorrow, and probably for several more days. Driving right now just wouldn't be a very great idea. Still hope to get back on the ice to at least stroke around sometime soon
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:07 PM
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Wish to Remember: the darn steps to the Canasta Tangle (I mean Tango)! I keep forgetting, BUT I do remember the swing dance!!! It was fun and we did the swing dance for almost the whole class time (except the last 5, which was on the tango). During skating warm-up I did the most awesome feeling scratch spin!!!! It felt awesome because it was my most fluid-feeling spin I've had in a long time! I was in the ZEN of the Spin!!!! and it was centered! Couldn't do it again tonight, but that's ok.

Hope to Forget: Almost went down again on back crossovers!!!! Heard and felt the click...tumbled, but recovered. This was on the warm-up ice with all the little kids watching
PS-my heels and knee do not hurt at all now that I'm in my new boots. The front of my ankle didn't hurt as much tonight (well, I only skated an hour) because I padded it with lamb's wool and a makeup pad. At least the sore spot wasn't bleeding. I take that as progress!
Edited to add: received the dvd today from HC!!!!!
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:55 AM
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(This happened yesterday, but I like the title of this week's thread better):

Hope to forget: falling on my head on FO mohawk in 8-step mohawk sequence. In about a year or so that I've been doing 8step mohawks, I never had any trouble with them (besides being scared in the beginning), never fell down on those, couldn't really "get" why they are so tough for many adults.

Yesterday I was skating at a seasonal rink near my home. Quite crowded, couldn't do anything besides whatever would fit in the center circle, though even there it wasn't particularly safe, with some kids staging races straight through the middle, and a clueless parent with a tiny daughter getting dangerously close to me. I was distracted. Possibly stepped on the blade of the other foot, or didn't pick up the free foot out of the way fast enough. Felt myself flying down, BOOM. Hit the head (maybe twice). Went into shock - couldn't really move for some time, then felt tingly, but was aware of where I was and what happened, and could talk. Pool of blood around my head, ambulance, ER, etc. Have a tender vertebrae, but not broken. Came out of whole thing with a sore right wrist, strong whiplash, light concussion (I guess) and 15 staples on my head (scull is ok). Still laughing, as what can I do - cry? LOL.

Hope to be back on the ice in a couple of weeks.
Wow. I'm so sorry to hear about this terrible crash, Renata. I wish you a full and speedy recovery. Take care of yourself.

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Old 11-14-2006, 10:21 AM
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http://www.usfigureskating.org/Story.asp?id=36147 - this makes me take my injury quite a bit more seriously. I probably had a grade 1 or 2 concussion, but falling on my head anytime soon just doesn't sound very good.
I'm glad you've seen that. I wanted to refer you to it (it to you?) but couldn't remember where I'd seen the story!

As for me:

Wish to remember: In our lesson this morning, we spent most of the time skating round in waltz hold, trying to do swing rolls. Coach said they were much better, but they didn't feel great. We also did swing rolls in Kilian hold, which were fine, and in Reverse Kilian, which were dire - I don't think we'd actually ventured beyond plain stroking in Reverse Kilian yet. I keep finding I turn slightly towards him in that hold; whether that is me leaning on him (I do try very hard not to), or him pulling me is a bit moot right now; a bit of both, I suspect.

We spent the last five minutes on his Level 1 Elements so that we both knew what he has to do; all fine except his cherry flip which was definitely a toe 3-jump! But I don't think it always is.

After he'd gone, I worked on my one-footed slaloms, and was delighted to find I could actually change edge on 3 of the 4! Yay! Not for long - it wasn't sustained at all, but definitely change-change-wiggle-wiggle-grind-to-a-halt, which is an improvement! Still couldn't quite on left back, though.

Hope to forget: Dance Moves. The cross-rolls are relatively okay, but the cross-cuts are weird. They do seem better than they were - more on an edge, less toey - but I can't sustain them for a whole length of the rink.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:16 AM
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Wish to Remember: the darn steps to the Canasta Tangle (I mean Tango)! I keep forgetting...
I have the same problem with dances and footwork sequences, courtesy (are you reading, Renata?) of a concussion as a child. I have a terrible memory for patterns, formulas, and numbers. (Not to mention faces and names.) If you tell me a story, I'll remember most of it for a long time. Give me your annual salary and I've forgotten it within minutes.

So, I use memory aids. What I've done is to "cut up" the sequences into 2 or 3 parts and then start to memorize from last piece to first. Starting at the "ending" makes it much stronger than working from start to finish, for some reason.

It also helps to actually draw and label the pattern, but that's very time-consuming. Did help me get through all my accounting and social studies classes, though! Strange, but it works.

Wish to Remember:
Started working on the first of three holiday programs I have to choreograph in the next week.
I love the song, but I have to be in a "Caribbean" dance mood.

Decided to start using my weaker side for lunges and other skills, so I get a bit of practice in while teaching.
I've already mastered a one-foot spin CW. (I'm a CCW skater normally)

Hope to Forget:
Can't jump CW. Not willing to hurt myself enough to try, yet.
My left inside threes are sloppy and skidded. Note to self: practice!
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:58 AM
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So that should help us all remember to point our toes!
Yes, that would be my main piece of advice on the second step of the outside mohawk, LOL! To think that I would make the same mistake again after having such a bad fall on that. . .
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:34 PM
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That I remember how to skate! That I used to get up at 8am nice and rested.

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My pronation problems, leaving my purse in my gf's car with my keys in it, truck not starting, sneezing, oversleeping, gloomy days, that the trash truck comes at 2am and my gf gets up at 5am.

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Old 11-14-2006, 01:57 PM
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Wish to Remember:
  • That I finally started kicking thru more consistently on my waltz jumps... and that my salchow isn't THAT bad b/c of the work on the waltz jump. Oh... forgot that I'm now also trying salchows thru the mohawk entry instead of just the FO3 entry. Should be interesting...
  • How to do a BO pivot (or is it the BI pivot... it's the pivot that the guy does on a death spiral.) Actually I can't remember it b/c I haven't done one yet!!! (Yeah, I know for some of you guys... ) I'm glad I'm learning it now b/c it's one of those "KEWL tricks" that I've been wanting to learn to do.
Hope to Forget:
  • How to do a toe-waltz??? My secondary coach is ON THE CASE to fix this problem!!!
  • Not fun to hear that my salchow thru the mohawk entry (which I just started doing) were actually BETTER on the kick thru than the 3turn entry (which I've been doing for AGES!!!)
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:28 PM
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My loop. After bragging about finally getting a 'proper' loop a few weeks ago,
  • I am pleased to report that it's still working consistently and my coach is pleased with it.
  • Salchows are also looking quite good.

Golden Skater's Waltz is progressing well, even though lots of work is still required.

Hope to forget
Where do I start:
  • Spin entrances are STILL not quite right and look silly
  • Flip is still only getting a couple of inches off the ice...no sign of legs anywhere near crossed
  • Continuous three turns in programme are abysmal
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:37 PM
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Called the rink because I knew they might close early, but they said the rink would stay open as usual
and i got there and it was closed

Wish to remember:
nothing! I didnt do any skating!!!
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:50 PM
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Hope to forget: ?????? The session was only 1:30 long?

Wish to remember: Dianne was "in a mood tonight"! There was some REALLY good very up-tempo Swing music from the 1930's and this old broad just cut loose I never knew you could do the Jive on the ice, or a reasonable imitation of a Flapper - LOL! The lady in the music booth (30-something) was grinning from ear to ear and I think the young girls were thinking "This old woman is NUTS!"

Ten months on the ice and already I am becoming a HAM! Maybe I should change my Interpretive program (again) and go with Big Band and Swing?

On the serious side, the back CW cross-overs were coming together tonight - proper weight transfer and all. Backward skating is also coming nicely - already it is obvious that my backward is going to be WAY better than my forward. Next item on the agenda, CCW back cross-overs!
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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Told my coach today that I have been feeling blue lately and not even wanting to skate at all. I am feeling no affect whatsoever about the holiday show coming up and considered not even skating in it. *sigh*. I went to my kickboxing class this evening and feel a little better. I will need to wait a little before making such a drastic decision to not participate in the holiday show. My program seems so uninteresting because I don't think I can do very many "advanced" or "impressive" things that would go with the music (LOVE -Nat King Cole). We even debated using my FS3 technical solo as "plan B".

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Coach says my sit spin is resembling an actual sit position and not a "squat" position. She was delighted in my progress.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:46 AM
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Hope to forget: Dance Moves. The cross-rolls are relatively okay, but the cross-cuts are weird. They do seem better than they were - more on an edge, less toey - but I can't sustain them for a whole length of the rink.
Mrs RB - we had an "interesting" (read: really hard! ) variation given to us in group lesson today, which I'm thinking will really help me with back cross-cuts when I work out how to do this exercise:

Back XO - hold hard BI edge - change to hard BO edge with free leg behind - bring free foot in front to do opposite direction back XO - repeat. (Grind to halt on toepicks! )
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